NSA MOUNTED MASSIVE SPYING ON BALTIMORE PEACE GROUP

NSA MOUNTED MASSIVE SPYING ON BALTIMORE PEACE GROUP,
UNCLASSIFIED NSA DOCS REVEAL;
PROTEST AT NSA CAMPUS HAD ANTI-WMD TEAM...

DEVELOPING...

http://www.rawstory.com/

O RLY

how shocking.

this is what brought Nixon down. This is good news. :)

saying as much, along with the Mark Felt lawsuit mentioned recently.

Combine the IRS, NSA, and 'background checks' and you've got an effective internal domestic terror operation:

Total Surveillance
http://www.motherjones.com/interview/2005/12/albrecht.html ...

Couple this insidious technology with purposely erroneous background checks

Who is checking the background checkers?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1128/p13s02-wmgn.html

They've offshored, outsourced, and privatized TIA. Now all they have to do is fire you for being 'of the wrong political party' and put false information in your background data...and voila ! You've just created the most insidious terror project in the US ever.

If they did that will be the end of Bush. Bush=Nixon if he did that.

actually he surpasses him except in the brain department.

to members of "Al Qaeda", right?

...right?

:eyes:

"Get your steenkin fascist government nose out of my butt." - Ye Olde SpiralHawk

Now that TIA is privatized, offshored, and outsourced to Global Information Group Ltd. in the Bahamas, and run by Ben H. Bell, IIIrd.

This would be solid if they did - the best refuge of those who favor this illegal spying is that the Bush Administration is only trying to protect us.

Now there are few people who feel threatened by peace groups - but they are not the majority.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

National Security Agency mounted massive spy op on Baltimore peace group, documents show
Kevin Zeese
Published: January 10, 2006


The National Security Agency has been spying on a Baltimore anti-war group, according to documents released during litigation, going so far as to document the inflating of protesters' balloons, and intended to deploy units trained to detect weapons of mass destruction, RAW STORY has learned.

According to the documents, the Pledge of Resistance-Baltimore, a Quaker-linked peace group, has been monitored by the NSA working with the Baltimore Intelligence Unit of the Baltimore City Police Department.
The documents came as a result of litigation in the August 2003 trial of Marilyn Carlisle and Cindy Farquhar. An NSA security official provided the defendants with a redacted Action Plan and a redacted copy of a Joint Terrorism Task Force email about the activities of the Pledge of Resistance activities.

The NSA, established in 1952 by President Truman, is the largest and most secret of U.S. intelligence agencies. Headquartered between Baltimore and Washington, DC, the agency has two principal functions: to protect U.S. government communications and intercept foreign transmissions. However, the NSA's United States Signals Intelligence Directive 18 strictly prohibits the interception or collection of information about "U.S. persons, entities, corporations or organizations" without explicit written permission from the Attorney General.

... has to say aout the city's police department being used to spy on its own citizens! This is an outrage and I want to know what O'Malley has to say about it! :grr:

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/NSA_documents_show_massive_spy_operation_0110.html

Oh yeah.

I don't think this is AS big of a deal. It doesn't say that the peace protesters were spied on in their homes, nor that their phones were tapped. Most of it was a plan for a protest which was ON THE NSA campus. I have to admit, if I worked for the NSA and I knew protestors were coming to visit, I'd have a plan to keep an eye on them.

Maybe someone else will explain to me why this is a big deal. :shrug:

So, basically what this tells us is that a security at a "family day picnic" , was handled by NSA operatives. This detail would normally be handled by local police, except for the part about having shotguns, dogs, and a few staff from the WMD-response team.

Is this outside of NSA's domain? Overkill? Waste of resources? Intimidation? Yes, yes.
I wouldn't call it "massive spying"
Also, I have to agree with Marie26's post, below. The headline is misleading.

If i'm missing something, please tell me.

was AT the NSA site, correct? So it seems to me that is why it would be handled by their security instead of by local police.

Agree with you about overkill, etc. Also agree that I wouldn't call it "massive spying" either.

our coalition did weekly protests along with the Friends on the street corner in my neighborhood. Some 'kids' from Ft. Meade, the base of the NSA, came and took close-up pictures, with our permission, with these bulky cameras. We had a laugh over it. I asked where they were from and they claimed they were part of a school project at the NRO school there. Lots of other activity happened after that. Don't want to say, but there was definitely a wave of spying on our groups at that time. That had to be the most boring duty ever for the agents. It was a long and frustrating protest that lasted for months. We took it in stride, but I believe its illegal and wrong, not to mention the waste of money and resources on peaceniks.

:grr::mad::grr:

excerpt from article:

<snip>
Documents turned over by the NSA indicate that the group was closely monitored. In one instance, the agency filed reports approximately every 15 minutes from 9:30 AM to 3:18 PM on the day of a demonstration at the National Vigilance Airplane Memorial on the NSA Campus in Maryland.

According to an NSA email dated July 4, 2004, the agency collected license numbers and descriptions and the number of people in each car and filed a report about them gathering in a church parking lot for the demonstration. NSA agents also logged their travel to the demonstration, including stopping as a gas station along the way. A canine dog unit was used to search a minivan when it was stopped on the way to the demonstration - nothing was found.

NSA officials even reported on the balloons being inflated for the demonstration and the content of their signs.

An entry made at 1300 hours on July 4. reads, "The Soc. was advised the protestors were proceeding to the airplane memorial with three helium balloons attached to a banner that stated, 'Those Who Exchange Freedom for Security Deserve Neither, Will Ultimately Lose Both.'"
</snip>

Oh, but we mustn't call the Bush admin "nazis." :grr:

theft and fight for fair, transparent and verifiable elections? (If the AZ SOS says those who want verifiable and transparent elections are anarchists, then there's probable cause.)

:banghead:

read Orders to Kill by Wm. Pepper. This is why the King family doesn't trust the US military nor the FBI and why we should demand oversight and accountability.

him and infiltrating his world and his life.

Thats what this is all about, isnt it?

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/National_Security_Agency_spied_on_Baltimore_0110.html

Also, a big 'thank you !' to these people who made the FOIA possible

""The documents came as a result of litigation in the August 2003 trial of Marilyn Carlisle and Cindy Farquhar. An NSA security official provided the defendants with a redacted Action Plan and a redacted copy of a Joint Terrorism Task Force email about the activities of the Pledge of Resistance activities.""

The headline implies that we're going to find out that the NSA was spying on anti-war protestors w/the illegal survaillence program. But the article just says that the NSA police were physically watching an anti-war group that was protesting at NSA headquarters. Which is sort of what police do, although it seems like a huge waste of resources. This doesn't seem to have any connection to the NSA eavesdropping program. As far as I can see, the police weren't doing anything illegal - it's public property. It is a little odd how scared the NSA got of a few protestors - the "action plan" looks like something more suited to a terrorist attack than watching a peace rally.

And the NSA is not supposed to spy on American people. Ever.

That's what the FBI is for.

And that that security was keeping an eye on the function at their physical HQ. It's not spying to keep an eye on your facilities.

There's a diffence between the "NSA" (the actual agents) and the "NSA Police" (the NSA's security). I know a little about the "Capitol Police." It's basically a small police force that patrols the Capitol building, runs the security checkpoints, etc. Although they're called "police," they basically act as security guards that make sure everything is safe at the building. The "NSA police" & "Capitol Police" hire together & do the same sort of thing. So if there's going to be a rally at NSA HQ, the NSA Police would monitor it, just like the Capitol Police would monitor a similar rally in front of the Capitol. There's nothing inherently wrong w/that. And they partnered w/the Baltimore Police for crowd control. And you're right - If they'd really wanted to spy on protestors, they'd have brought in the FBI. The FBI has agents that are good at physical surveillance, wiretapping, accessing databases, doing searches, etc. The NSA isn't equipped for that - their agents are sort of hi-tech computer geeks that write programs & crack codes. When they spy on Americans, they tap communications. This specific case doesn't seem to involve illegal "spying" on people by the NSA. Both police depts. did go way overboard w/the preparations & planning for a simple rally, though.

Will this country continue to sit still for this illegal unjustified warrant less searching of private groups and communications? Pretty soon the monkey man occupying the white house is going to push the big red button, bombing Iran and Syria. Then, in patriotic glory, we will all be told that anyone not supporting this abomination against mankind needs to be killed, or at least locked up. A draft will be started but only for the poor underclasses.
I used to chide myself for wearing the tinfoil hat a little too much but am now beginning to believe that reality is far worse than I imagined. A year ago I would have said that the NSA would not let themselves be used again for spying on americans, but here we are. Now we have a government out of control, tearing itself to pieces for the purpose of rebuilding a new society.
Is there really no hope?

KZ: Do you have any indications that the federal government has been monitoring the meetings and other activities of the Pledge?

MA: During a trial for arrests at NSA on October 4, 2003, an internal NSA email was given to the defendants from the Pledge by an NSA witness. The email showed that the NSA had been physically spying on the Pledge as it prepared to depart on July 3, 2004 (the trial for the 10/04/03 arrest was in 8/04) from the American Friends Service Committee on York Rd. in Baltimore to the NSA. The email is time chronological and details the Pledge's activities as it assembled in the parking lot of the AFSC, number of people, who is going in which vehicles, what vehicles were being used, their make and license plate numbers, what signs we were carrying, the helium tanks (for balloons) we were bringing and also recognizes and names Max Obuszewski as one of the protesters. The email then details, with specific times, our progress on the road from Baltimore to the NSA. It goes on to describe our demonstration and subsequent arrests. The email begins at 9:40am, prior to our arrival at the NSA at around 12 noon, and proceeds through the day.

more at:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/6632

Instead of using their resources to catch the real bad guys, they are spying on AMERICANS that are involved with peace-related organizations.

WE ARE A POLICE STATE.

THE BUSHIES HAVE DECLARED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS THEIR ENEMIES.

When are people going to get it? This is sick.

WAR IS PEACE!!!


I can't believe we are talking about this in America...