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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:46 PM
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Uh-oh, Rush says Lincoln would arrest Sen. Kennedy. Could you be next?
OK, short but sweet, about Rush today: Lincoln was in trouble in 1864, but not in worse shape than Lincoln; unlike this war by choice, he was fighting THE CIVIL WAR. Ever heard of it? Lincoln never had the chance to unite this nation except through his immortal and inspired words (unlike "nukular" by a man less coherent than Dan Quayle). But the big thing here is Rush, the point man for Karl Rove, says Sen. Kennedy would be arrested - now, today. And check it (hold your nose, you must) not for any specific criticism; he wants him arrested for opposing Bush. A senator, in a totally different situation from Clement Vallandigham. Best gird your loins, folks. Rush is setting the stage.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_042006/content/stop_the_tape_2.guest.html

Rush: Okay, another great point. Lincoln was in worse shape, you're right, than Bush is today, almost didn't get elected for a second term, and ended up saving the nation and uniting it. And Ted Kennedy wanting to somehow appropriate about Lincoln and say that he is not an example of the things that Bush has done through fear(sic). If Abe Lincoln were the president today as he was in the Civil War, Ted Kennedy would be in jail.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:48 PM
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1. Kennedy's making the rounds tonight
He's scheduled to be on Larry King Live tonight - I just saw the promo - and then, later, on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

He's getting up and getting out and taking a leadership role, becoming very, very visible, and doing what needs to be done.

I think he's great.

Rush Limbaugh should just go do some Vicodin and Oxycontin and maybe some Robitussin and a couple of roofies and SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:48 PM
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2. Rush who?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:51 PM
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3. Whoosh Windbag. You know.
!!
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:52 PM
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4. OK, Fatso, so riddle me this . . .
Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 07:01 PM by Jack Rabbit
Why didn't Lincoln arrest General McClellan?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:53 PM
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5. oh, please
the asshat ramblings of that blowhard portend nothing. I doubt Kennedy is shaking in his boots, unless it's from laughter. What an idiot.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:54 PM
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6. Is Lush Limbaugh now setting policy for the USA?
sorry this sycophant is just a drug addled old fat white guy...and I should listen to him why?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:59 PM
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9. Didn't Limbaugh just coddle Rumsfeld?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:54 PM
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7. what bushllit. Try checking out the Lincoln Museum.
There was a free press throughout the Civil war, and many, if not most papers were vile and attacking Abe.
At one point in time, when discussing whether to pass the Emancipation proclamation, he had to remove or ignore more than a few in his cabinet because of their objections. And their objections were public, not private.

Proof again that he is an uneducated idiot who spouts the first dim-witted, half thought that crosses his drug-addled mind.
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guinivere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:55 PM
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8. *sigh* Okay, now I need a pain pill. nt
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:01 PM
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10. Bull
Vallandigham wasn't jailed: he was sent South to live amongst the Confederates whose cause he championed. He didn't like it much, as he reentered the US through Canada a while later. The only time Lincoln failed to follow the writ of habeas corpus was in 1861, I believe, when he arrested some Marylanders so that the legislature wouldn't vote to seceed, leaving Washington DC surrounded by hostile states. When the SCOTUS ruled it uncositutional, Lincoln didn't do it again.

Another of many differences between Lincoln and the Chimp; Lincoln was masterful of putting his strongest critics in his cabinet-he was able to keep an eye on them, but he was also able to use them because they were among the most talented men in the country, and he needed them. Bush would die if he had to listen to the daily criticism Lincoln was subjected to. But then Lincoln, unlike Bush, didn't grow up in the lap of luxury. True, he failed at a couple of businesses, but he bailed himself out by paying back the debt a little at a time. He never took government money; when the New Salem post office closed, he was in possession of several dollars owed the government. They didn't ask for it until years later-and he handed over not only the exact sum but the exact coins-even when he was in the direst poverty, he never touched money that wasn't his. I've heard tell from kinfolk living in Springfield IL that Old Abe's been spinning in his grave ever since W took office.....
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:02 PM
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11. And rush is a totally druggie
who should have been in jail by now if it weren't for his status as this century's Toyko Rose and all his $$$Million.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:04 PM
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12. "almost didn't get elected for a second term"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_1864

Uh, Lincoln won 212 electoral votes to McClellan's 21. Yeah, it was that close.

Rush is more likely to see the inside of a jail cell than any Senator.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:56 PM
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17. Lincoln told his cabinet that
he was likely to lose his reelection bid.

But then Sherman took Atlanta and Sheridan defeated Jubal Early in the Valley and the whole war situation was changed.

It was a near thing and Lincoln said so on the record.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:23 PM
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13. Rush should be in jail now for drug offenses.
What a low-life piece of crap.
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All50inBlue Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:28 PM
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14. I know you
Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 07:29 PM by All50inBlue
are going to throw me down the well here... but that's true. Lincoln shattered the constitution FREQUENTLY and it is a FACT that he sent dissenting political figures to prison or to CANADA. Forget that this quote today came from Prince Gasbag Painkiller.

FACT.

The list of shocking LINCOLN facts would disturb many here including the fact that the famous "emancipation proclamation" printed on his monument was a declaration of freedom ONLY for the southern states' slaves. LINCOLN ALLOWED Maryland, Deleware, West Virginia, Kentucky and Missouri to KEEP their slaves... while declaring the slaves of the south FREE!!!!!
These slaves got their freedom only AFTER the Civil War, AFTER Lincoln had traded these slaves misery for the "good of the union" as these states politicians were southern "leaning".

Sorry in advance if I offend anyone. Lincoln was NOT a good guy.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:44 PM
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15. Oops. Welcome to DU. You are right; you're going down the well here.
But, I am on my way out right now. Your characterization of the Emancipation Proclamation has been rejected so many times that it is breathtaking in its absurdity. You anticipate it, and it's coming, but I have to go now, so post your shocking Lincoln facts (DiLorenzo no doubt; all the credibility of Rev. Moon). We'll take 'em one at a time.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:58 PM
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18. You're saying the EP did in fact
free the slaves in Maryland, Delaware, Kentucky, etcd?

If that's what you're saying, you're just wrong.

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All50inBlue Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:07 PM
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22. no, no, of course not.
the intended effect was never realized. But the freedom DID eventually come to the UNION slave states, but not as planned by Lincoln.
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All50inBlue Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 08:27 PM
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20. You can
Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 08:31 PM by All50inBlue
deny the facts all you want. Let me make a number of things clear. The end result of Lincoln's actions was POSITIVE for our union. I'm a strong supporter of the "effect" from the Civil War, just not some methods involved. Let's start with a few off the top of my head, these are factual and etched in stone so don't even think of trying to disprove them:

1) In 1861 a New York newspaper published a list of 100 newspapers located in UNION states, these papers had editorial content CRITICAL of the administration's handling of the SECESSION/ONSET OF WAR. Lincoln ORDERED the Postmaster General to shut them down or give them the opportunity to "change their viewpoint". Most of these papers never again re-opened and many editors were imprisoned without warrants on the direct order of Lincoln.

Now imagine 2006, BUSHCO sends secret service agents to the New York Times, Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Herald... they lock the doors, turn off the presses and send everyone home. They arrest the editors and owners and send them to Gitmo or some scary Eastern European prison...

PLEASE TELL ME my comparison is invalid, I'll tear you to shreds. After a period of failure to contradict this argument, I'll keep listing my points of argument, one at a time... you ready? Bring your history books only, no blogs or cheezy links.

EDIT: for the "not so bright" my avatar is the state flag of Mississippi. I'm born and raised... Ole Miss class of '89. It's NOT a racist thing...
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All50inBlue Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:03 PM
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21. As soon
as you take a shot at that one, we'll move on to Fort Sumter and West Virginia... ready?
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:48 PM
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16. Poor Rush
Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 07:50 PM by lpbk2713


Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.



He's a three-time loser.







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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 08:27 PM
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19. Lincoln wouldn't be a republican of today.
Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 08:27 PM by Postman
In fact, Lincoln's army would be putting people like Rush six feet under. People like Rush were the slaveholding class.
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