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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:47 AM
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The secret rendition prisons in europe leak
has gotten some CIA agent fired. Why does it seem to me the secret torture prisons should have gotten this whole administration fired and not the leaker. I feel like I'm about to go crazy. Aaaagggghhhhh
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:49 AM
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1. fyi
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:59 AM
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2. Good article. (eom)
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 11:00 AM
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3. thank you, LaLa
you'er the best.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 11:09 AM
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5. did you see Andrea Mitchell on Countdown Friday?
She said the firing of a CIA agent to send a signal to others who might be whistleblowers was a CRISIS. She was quite upset at the chilling effect on the people's right to know.

Keith Olbermann made it his lead story and cast it in the same grave and historic light. Apparently some in the journalistic community see it for what it is.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 12:43 PM
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8. yup... fucking yup!!!!
does this need its own post?
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 12:53 PM
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9. I'll make a post with the transcript when it's available (eom)
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 12:58 PM
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10. what Porter Goss said...
..about the Whistleblower Act:

As a member of Congress in 1998, I sponsored the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act to ensure that current or former employees could petition Congress, after raising concerns within their respective agency, consistent with the need to protect classified information.

Exercising one's rights under this act is an appropriate and responsible way to bring questionable practices to the attention of those in Congress charged with oversight of intelligence agencies. And it works. Government employees have used statutory procedures — including internal channels at their agencies — on countless occasions to correct abuses without risk of retribution and while protecting information critical to our national defense.

On the other hand, those who choose to bypass the law and go straight to the press are not noble, honorable or patriotic. Nor are they whistleblowers. Instead they are committing a criminal act that potentially places American lives at risk. It is unconscionable to compromise national security information and then seek protection as a whistleblower to forestall punishment.

Found that over on Larry Johnson's blog.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 03:34 PM
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12. When Goss said this in 1998, we had a Congress that did
provide oversight. Since Bush took office, Congress has failed to perform this function that is so badly needed which more or less forces people to go off the reservation, so to speak, to get this kind of information to the people. This is one of the reasons it is so important to take back the House and Senate. They are elected to represent us, the people, not to rubber stamp what the President wants. This has been sorely lacking in recent years.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:34 PM
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13. This whole government has turned too spooky for me
the tattletale gets the punishment.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 04:05 AM
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14. i think we are watching the rise
of psychos and the fall of Rome.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 11:04 AM
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4. I guess we haven't been able to make the distinction between
a good leak and a bad leak. Maybe it depends on which direction you're looking at it. More info here:

http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20060421/444858c0_3ca6_1552620060421616607736
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 11:55 AM
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6. thank you, too, Granny
this stuff makes my head explode. No free speech/press zone. Ah, who needs a Constitution. Who cares if we have any right to information to make informed decisions. We'll be told what we need to know.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 12:04 PM
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7. Cuz its an "ass backward" time we live in. For example, I found porn
on a library computer and, when I brought it to the attention of the admin, they said I should have addressed the issue at the time.

Well, the perp was long gone by the time I found it so what could I have "done?" I got in trouble and no discussion at all of who did the foul deed, how to prevent it in the future, etc. I was the messenger with the bad news.

(I had to tell them about it as the perp displayed it in such a way I couldn't get rid of the screen - he/she wanted everyone who went by to have to look at it. And this at a school!)
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 01:50 PM
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11. K&R
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 08:53 AM
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15. and the M$M Advertising News affiliates are running away from Admin
liability...it's all about the wrongs of one agent.
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