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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:43 PM
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India Times Says US workers angry as IBM jobs move to India - NO Really???
Edited on Tue May-08-07 09:45 PM by 1776Forever
Source: The India Times

US workers angry as IBM jobs move to India
<9 May, 2007 l 0141 hrs ISTl Chidanand Rajghattal TIMES NEWS NETWORK>

WASHINGTON: In a development laden with irony and emblematic of a global economic shift, IBM, the world’s largest IT firm, is getting a roasting from American tech workers, including its own employees, for moving tens of thousands of jobs to India.

....The latest bout of outrage and venting was sparked after a column by a controversial tech columnist who writes under the name Robert Cringely, who disclosed on a public television website that IBM, according to his friends in the company, was getting ready to lay-off a staggering 150,000 workers in the US, with many of the jobs going to India....

"Thirteen hundred layoffs from a company with more than 350,000 workers is nothing, so the yawning press reaction is not unexpected. But this week’s ‘job action,’ as they refer to it inside IBM management, was as much as anything a rehearsal for what I understand are another over 100,000 or more layoffs to follow," he wrote.

IBM declined to comment on the claims but technology analysts dismissed it as hogwash. American tech workers, including many claiming to be current or laid-off IBM workers, buzzed angrily at the story on tech websites and blogs, many venting against corporate America and India.

"Unfortunately this is a continuing trend in all corporate America. Whether it be airlines outsourcing maintenance to off shore airlines (as my company does), or moving call centres to India (as my wife’s company is doing), the only bottom line is the bottom line, read one of the more polite and printable reactions.

Some workers, including a few Indians, suggested the Americans should bite the bullet. "Well, it is ‘International’ Business Machines after all," reminded one writer. "I think a good case can be made that if the company wants to do more business in India, Russia, Brazil, etc, then it would be a good idea for it to hire more people in these countries."

"Wake up and smell the . . . Darjeeling," suggested another, pointing out that jobs were outsourced and taken overseas in the 80’s and 90’s by the manufacturing industries and no company would be serving its’ shareholders by paying more to many to produce less." "And, like it or not, most working Americans have investment(s) in just such companies. Stop moaning and move on," he wrote.


Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Business/Intl_Business/US_workers_angry_as_IBM_jobs_move_to_India/articleshow/2020258.cms



Whose next???? Oh but the stock market is at an all time high - and while Nero (Bush) fiddles Rome (our middle-class) burns!
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:08 AM
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1. Right.
I've heard that jobs are even being offshored away from India, and Indians are complaining. Tough shit for them.


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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:14 AM
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2. Yup. The Chinese work for even cheaper pay than the Indians.
Edited on Wed May-09-07 01:15 AM by w4rma
A race to the bottom for workers. And anything to horde more stuff for the leisure class.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 08:00 AM
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8. And maybe next year, Bangladesh will be cheaper
Then the year after that, China will open up massive prison camp factories.

Hey, it's good business.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:33 AM
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3. Awww, come on,
outsourcing is good for "Merica".
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:38 AM
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4. Yup. Frees up people to work at Wal-Mart
and McDonalds.

They didn't need to send their kids to college, own their own home or drive a car anyway. Right?
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:19 AM
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5. "over 100,000 or more layoffs to follow"
Yikes!
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 06:02 AM
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6. "Americans should bite the bullet?"
Indians should be prepared to "bite the bullet" as their wages are increasing and China (amongst other low-wage countries) are looking more appealing to companies.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 07:24 AM
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7. Inconceivable.
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 08:18 AM
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9. India Times - Now Reporting That Water is WET !!!!
While we're going with the blatantly obvious:

Bush is Guilty of War Crimes, and Human Rights Violations.

U.S. presence in Iraq is Encouraging Terrorism, and anti-U.S. sentiment in Entire Middle East.

FOX News viewers living insulated lives, fed filtered right-wing propaganda, and are gradually becoming retarded. (That last part is pure truthiness)
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 06:08 PM
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13. Obvious of course - just one more thing that is being "given" to the middle-class
....along with our loved ones "fighting" the war in the National Guard and Reserves, while the private armies get the big money! I am the mother of 2 sons who have fought in Iraq 1 and 2. If we don't have a middle-class to come back too and our resources and lifestyles are raped from us, what the hell are we fighting for? It is all in the same sick vein of high stock prices, corporate welfare, and high crimes!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 11:29 AM
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10. Well, Indians may know a lot of things, but they sure don't seem to
have it down when it comes to good public relations.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 11:33 AM
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11. IBM = India Brazil Mexico
Edited on Wed May-09-07 11:37 AM by bushmeat
So far they have moved:

Help Desk - India (some China)
Networking - Brazil
Lotus Notes - Brazil
Manufacturing - Mexico
on and on


the best part is they off shored help desk to India and then the India help desk operations got outsourced to China
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:02 PM
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12. America -- exporting the best jobs in the world. --nt
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