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Lennon Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:39 AM
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John Cusack On Real Time With Bill Maher
 
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John Cusack On Real Time With Bill Maher - 3/28/08
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:54 AM
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1. I read about his new movie, War, Inc., over at C & L
Cusack is very astute about the political scene and quite articulate.

I thought Bill Maher was rather rude to him tonight....well, Maher was especially rude tonight period.

Here's some of Cursack from '05:
"You may remember this wonderful post he wrote back in ‘05

Bush 2. How depressing, corrupt, unlawful and tragically absurd the administration’s world view actually is…how low the moral bar has been lowered…and (though I know I’m capable of intellectually lazy notions of collective guilt) how complicit our silence as citizens is…Nixon, a true fiend, looks like a paragon of virtue next to the criminally incompetent robber barons now raiding the present and future. But where are the Dems? American foreign policy is in chaos. We are now left in the surreal position of having to condemn American-sponsored torture as official policy while a deranged President Bush orders his staff to attend ethics briefings — a “refresher course” — from the White House counsel.read on"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-cusack/on-bush-the-dems-jon-st_b_10485.html


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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:17 AM
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2. Obama/Cusack '08
hey why not?
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Dammit Ann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 04:35 AM
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3. watch this.
K&R.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 08:28 AM
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4. Two dollars!
Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 08:36 AM by Progs Rock
Love the Cusack. Wise man, what he had to say, and refused to acknowledge leading questions.
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 08:59 AM
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5. Impossible
for that man not be cool.
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jeanruss Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 09:11 AM
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6. Bill Maher has changed
I think Maher is actually pro-war and very pro-Israel. I have been detecting a bias for a while now.
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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 09:44 AM
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7. It's about accountability
Bill seems to think that things just won't change with a new president. Well if there is accountability things will begin to change. The Democrats need to secure 61 seats, that way the republicans can block progress, hamper oversite and misguide the direction of the country. While the treats to our national interest will be there, the corporate interest will not be the dominating policy vehicle.


Barack Obama offers the best opportunity for changing the politics of Washington. We desparately need his leadership.

Vote for Barack Obama.
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BDevil38 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 09:14 PM
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32. Change
If the Democrat candidates are crying for "change",
it must start in Congress.  When you have Senators that have
been in the Senate for 40+ years like Robert Byrd - West
Virginia (Democrat - 90 years old.  In Senate 49+ years, plus
four years House); Teddy Kennedy - Massachusetts (Democrat -
76 years old.  In Senate 45+ years); and Daniel Inouye -
Hawaii (Democrat - 83 years old.  In Senate 45+ years, plus
six years in House).  Including the aforementioned, more than
half of the 100 Senators have been either in the Senate or the
House and Senate combined in excess of 20 years.  

Then, you have members of the House where you have over 50
members that have been "on the job" for more than 20
years, the longest being John Dingell over 50 years in the
House, John Conyers over 40 years, Dave Obey and Charles
Rangel almost 40 years, and more than 50 members with over 20
years.  The top four are Democrats, and ten of the next 16 are
also Democrats.  Obama and Clinton want change?  This is where
it should start.

The Democrats have had control of Congress for more than one
year and have accomplished NONE of their agenda that got them
elected, and very little else.  Public approval of Congress is
close to an all-time low.

If we limit the length of service of the President, why not
these jokers?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Congressmen_by_longevity_of_service
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JSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 06:07 PM
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29. Bill Maher is NOT pro war!
He has said many times that the reason "they hate us" is because we are there and we need to get the hell out.
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atjrpsych Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:19 AM
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37. why do you think that?
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 10:10 AM
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8. I thought both of them were very good
I don't see how Maher could be accused of rudeness. He just intelligently challenged Cusack to back up his opinions, which Cusack did very well. Maher unfortunately is right on the money in saying the whole system is corrupt; that it goes beyond just the Bush junta, and that electing Democrats (given their track record since the Ronnie Ray-gun years) may not put much of a dent in this corrupted system. Meanwhile, Cusack is an intelligent , well informed citizen, and I'm proud of him as a product of my home town ...I was impressed by the civil, intelligent tone of the whole exchange.
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CONN Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 10:17 AM
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10. yep good observation (eom)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:19 PM
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15. Maher is still defending his Gore = Bush so I'm voting for Nader stance in 2000.
nt
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:40 PM
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16. Didn't see that part--just commenting on Cusack interview.
Bill Maher has many opinions I don't agree with, but thought this interview/exchange was very good. Overall, Maher is more on our side than not despite his being wrong ( and on occasion, offensive, in my opinion), on various issues. By the way, I've posted on several occasions re: Nader in 2000; I don't blame those who voted for Nader. I blame the Terry McAuliffe -led DLC establishment for doing its best to make it seem like Gore and Bush WERE about the same. I will never forget cringing during the Gore-Bush "debates" at how they seemed to agree on almost everything. I'm pretty confident that if Gore had it to do all over again, he'd toss out all his handlers and just be the real Gore that we all ( well most of us) respect so much now. Certainly in hindsight, voting for Nader then was self-defeating, but many of us ( and FYI, I DID vote for Gore) were so fed up with the republican-lite image and policies of our party that their consciences would not allow them to vote for what was presented as another corporate DLC Dem. I didn't see this part of Maher's show, but assuming he was defending voting for Nader then as opposed to now, a case can be made for having done so, even though I disagreed with it. Disastrous consequences? An understatement , obviously, but again, to me, the lion's share of the blame lies with the ever-moving to the right, afraid of its own shadow DLC faction that has held sway for too long.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:52 PM
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18. I never thought Gore = Bush, and I do "blame" Nader for asserting such an ignorant
mantra. I never thought Gore agreed with Bush on most things, and I did not feel that the debates indicated such. Bush DID claim to be a "compassionate conservative" which as we know was a complete joke. ;)

Also, I do not feel that Maher is directly defending his vote, he's doing it in an indirect manner with the same cynical "there is no difference" blather.

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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:40 PM
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17. Exactly.
Just because Maher wasn't cheerleading Cusack's point of view doesn't make him rude or snarky or anything else.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:27 PM
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22. Cusack did a nice job of selling the concept of incrementally unraveling the Bush mess.
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 10:12 AM
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9. cusack gets it!
will see the movie
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 10:10 PM
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35. Check out Cusack's scenes in the movie "Bob Roberts".
As I recall, Tim Robbins mentioned in the DVD commentary that John ad libbed his lines in the "Cutting Crew" comedy show sketch scene.

Cusack's been on the right team for a long time.

Also, from what I've seen of the trailers, "War, Inc." is a must see. A very black comedy, and an accurate one - a la Dr. Strangelove.
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 11:10 AM
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11. what a great interview!
I love John Cusack!!! and I did NOT know there are as many contractors in Iraq as there are soldiers....that says it all right there....
and I think he was exactly right when he said it is up to the American Public.....
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 11:33 AM
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12. My Hollywood boyfriend!
He's so thinky!

But seriously, it's always good to see anyone bring up the corporatization of Iraq. The point is that this war was never about freedom or democracy. It was about money. The Iraqi people have been shut out of rebuilding their own country and I believe that fact is a driving factor behind the "insurgency".
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 11:40 AM
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13. Finally, Some Truth Out There... And Posted In Here.
Cusack & Maher were both right on the money with this.

Sometimes I'd like to kick Bill Maher in the slats, but this is not one of those times.

He and Cusack used a certain Socratic method in their dialogue to put out the Truth about, why this war will not end with the upcoming election, no matter who wins.

And the two of them managed to put out a lot of Truth about the enormous amounts of money -- to be made by the corporate interests and paid by the taxpayers -- involved in floating a war and keeping it floating.

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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 11:57 AM
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14. Maher Was A Jerk To Cuisack
I found he was being a bit snide and snarky. It was really annoying. At least the audience understood and applauded what Cuisack was saying.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:26 PM
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20. I felt the same way. It's as if Maher goes to the opposite side on every interview.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:25 PM
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19. Maher doesn't like it when someone is more extreme for their despise for Bush than him.
His interview was really odd -- claiming that both Clinton and Bush would continue the war(s). :shrug:
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:22 PM
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25. I think you give him too little credit.
He can't just stand there and agree - that will come off as preaching to a lot of viewers - and not work as effectively.

He gave Cusack a wall to play up against and make some hard hits.

I had no idea that Cusack could be so thoughtful, deliberate, articulate and forceful on a matter like this.

Goes to show why I love his work, perhaps. :)
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cnk_clark Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:26 PM
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21. I never put much credence in actors
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:00 PM
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23. Yeah, especially that one who was president back in the 80s -- god he was awful
welcome to DU
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 10:02 PM
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34. I'd take someone who could at least act the role of the President ...
... over the complete asshat we have in the Oval Office right now.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:05 PM
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24. Since Maher keeps bringing up the two Democratic candidates..
and saying what they aren't saying what he wants then why doesn't he ask them himself, he sounds as if he wants Mccain..
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:36 PM
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26. I think Maher plays the devil's advocate a lot
I'd rather see him ask difficult questions than simply bob his head in agreement the way so many of his ilk do. I thought in this particular clip he did a good job getting Cusack to expound and clarify. I didn't see anything that seemed disrespectful. And Cusack did a great job calmly stating his position. He's very right that the truth of this whole thing is really big, dark and scary. It's hard to face.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:48 PM
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27. So Maher equates the hundred year McCain policy with the start removing troops now policy of
Democrats?

Let me just say, I'm glad I don't subscribe to HBO...

Cusack did a great job in spite of being interrogated for making a film.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:52 PM
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28. I didn't particularly care for Maher's opening question regarding "Iraq movies" being duds.
On the other hand, I get the impression some are thinking Maher was harsh due to the fact that he believes that things in Iraq won't change if Obama is elected. I think that was a good point to a degree. If Obama is the nominee, I'll heartily vote for him in November. However, as a senator, how many examples are there of Obama taking a stand against this regime's corruption in his Senate capacity?
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 06:44 PM
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30. The premise that this is a war is flawed. This is an OCCUPATION
Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 06:47 PM by greyghost
of a foreign country. It stopped being a "war" when Saddam was removed. A country does not "win" an occupation. Iraq's civil war will happen irregardless.

I'd love the opportunity to make this clear to Mr. Maher and his quests.

John Cusack does indeed, get it. I hope he has a hit with his movie.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 09:05 PM
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31. All Bill Maher had to do was simply let John Cusack talk --- that 's what everyone wanted to hear -!
All Bill contributed was stupidities ---

Cusack had a complicated subject --- and he packaged it very tightly --- yet in ways that
anyone could understand. Love the title -- "War, Inc."

More Cusack --- LESS Bill Maher ---

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 09:54 PM
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33. i loved hearing cusack. k&r n/t
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jwlashta Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 10:42 PM
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36. A good clip
I'm not always a fan of Maher, but I was actually happy with the interview. Sure, he's cynical but he has every right to be. Maher rightly pointed out that the information is out there but few Americans seem to care (or at least little is being said).

I though Cusack brought up good points and articulated his points well. I don't think Maher was necessarily "rude" as others have said; Cusack never really answered Maher's questions--and they were fair questions. Would Obama or Clinton withdraw the troops and pull the corporations out of Iraq if elected? And Cusack's response begs the question--would the American people demand the withdrawl of corporations from Iraq?

It's good to know that there are intelligent people in the entertainment industry... and for so many years, I thought Cusack was just cool.

Good stuff.
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