Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Clinton camp disputes "Rich people, God bless us" remark

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Political Videos Donate to DU
 
jedreport Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:56 PM
Original message
Clinton camp disputes "Rich people, God bless us" remark
 
Run time: 00:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR_vyHTfqro
 
Posted on YouTube: May 02, 2008
By YouTube Member:
Views on YouTube: 0
 
Posted on DU: May 02, 2008
By DU Member: jedreport
Views on DU: 6707
 
The Clinton campaign now claims she actually said "Rich people, God blessed us" on Falafel Bill O'Reilly's show. Blessed, as in B-L-E-S-S-E-D, not bless.

In the abstract my vote is that they're lying, but you should decide this one for yourself.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:57 PM
Response to Original message
1. Lie
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jedreport Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. wow
that nose is scary!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:58 PM
Response to Original message
2. I KNOW what I heard ... like "I one to Bill, I'm a member of the club."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:00 PM
Response to Original message
4. Fuck her.
I'm shocked that the past couple of days have made me respect Clinton even less. I didn't think that was possible.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:00 PM
Response to Original message
5. She's just more of the same.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jedreport Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. and same of the more!
or thingsome that like!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:01 PM
Response to Original message
6. Oh for Pete's sake. They should just say she was being sarcastic which she was.
It is stupid to try to parse this and spin it. No way she said "Blessed".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
skyounkin Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. That's exactly what I was thinking-
Just say you were being sarcastic for christ sake stop being afraid of the sound bite spin.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jedreport Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. One theory is that...
...they've got no idea what she was trying to say and neither does she.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #13
19. She is a bit of a motor mouth - I prefer Obama's "stammering".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #6
12. her campaign can't even figure out a plausible spin. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #6
15. I saw the video, but didn't catch the sarcasm. At all. ??? nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #15
25. Only if elbow rubbing is sarcastic. She was clearly doing the good 'ol rich boy stance.
Like, I'm rich too. I won't hurt you!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:14 AM
Response to Reply #15
43. Then you only watched the 15 sec clip that is posted ad-nauseum here. n/t
Edited on Fri May-02-08 10:15 AM by lumberjack_jeff
It was very clear both to O'Reilly, the viewers and to anyone who takes the time to read the transcript that it was an obvious snark.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,353759,00.html

She was defending her proposed tax hike on rich people like herself and O'Reilly that it was necessary "to make sure our country and our blessings continue to the next generation."

Frankly, anyone who can't see it doesn't want to. Unfortunately for them, viewers aren't generally so obtuse.

DU'ers in our own way have no room to denigrate "low information voters".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #6
22. That's what I originally thought when I read it
But now I see it, I don't know what the hell she meant. She didn't sound sarcastic to me. I'd like to see more of it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ksquire Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:03 AM
Response to Reply #6
41. why, oh why do they do this. nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:04 PM
Response to Original message
8. Hasn't Douchebag interviewed Bush or Cheney before?
Edited on Thu May-01-08 10:04 PM by ryanmuegge
I'd be VERY interested to see the list of questions he asked them if he has in fact interviewed them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
beezlebum Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:04 PM
Response to Original message
9. oh for god bless-ed sake!
Edited on Thu May-01-08 10:05 PM by beezlebum
i'm w/ Emperorhasnoclothes- i never thought i could respect her any less. boy was i ever wrong.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:08 PM
Response to Original message
11. A sniper shot off the "-ed"...
Jesus. How bad can a fabricated explanation get?

Clinton's esses are especially sibilant in this clip. "..blesssss ussssss".

Maybe she was "tired" and "misspoke".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jedreport Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. winner!
i think you must be right!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ned_Devine Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:12 PM
Response to Original message
16. What a blatant lie! Why the cover up?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HDPaulG Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:17 PM
Response to Original message
17. She was confused and nervous.....
Because snipers were reported to be in the studio...Besides, she does speak a million words a week.....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:17 PM
Response to Original message
18. Not sure what to think of this.
Sounds to me that she clearly says "God bless us...". But I think that was in a larger context that we (rich people) continue this for the country and next generation. I think her point was "we were blessed. now we need to make sure the rest of the country and future generations are equally blessed". Unfortunately, her actual words makes it sound rather narrow and somewhat selfish.

As an Obama fan who is sick of the media distortions of our candidates words, I can't and won't hold this against Hillary.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:00 AM
Response to Reply #18
37. I always admire your honesty and good sense.
I couldn't put into words -- at least this late at night -- what my interpretation was of the statement, but you hit the nail on the head. :hugs: Now best to my candidate, Hillary Clinton and to yours, Barack Obama!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KnaveRupe Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:36 AM
Response to Reply #18
39. Yeah - the point isn't what she said.
The point is how her campaign responded to it - with a blatant and easily disprovable lie. Once again, Team Clinton makes her look worse than she deserves.

Of course, I'm not shedding any tears over any bad karma that comes her way either... after she rode "bittergate" for all it was worth, she deserves to be hounded a little for such an "elitist" statement, IMHO.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:30 PM
Response to Original message
20. In the clip I heard "God bless us" . .
There was nothing wrong with that. She is rich and so is O'Reilly and that's what she was saying. The theme of the whole interview was Billo saying how rich they both were and asking how much was she going to raise his taxes. She finally said in effect - yes we are both rich and God bless us - because by paying a fair share of taxes we can make things better for the middle class who are struggling and that will be good for America.

I guess her Comm Dir (Wolfson) heard an -ed at the end of "bless". Who cares? Neither statement is a problem in context. Although the "blessed" version doesn't make as much sense syntactically.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nonoxy9 Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:31 PM
Response to Original message
21. But Obama's the "elitist"!!!!
:nopity:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:03 PM
Response to Original message
23. God Bless us! We are so rich we can certainly allow a few crumbs to fall. And bless us for that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:28 AM
Response to Reply #23
34. It a fucking "Let them eat cake" moment. Just sickening.
Does Hillary have any sense of how she comes across to people?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #34
46. Got to agree!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:08 PM
Response to Original message
24. OUCH!! Clearly the ELITIST in her comes out on Camera! MSM begin your butchery!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:21 PM
Response to Original message
26. Lol!
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:26 PM
Response to Original message
27. Not to be misogynous, but what a f'ing bitch
I calls 'em as I sees 'em.

:puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:27 AM
Response to Reply #27
33. Actually, you're being quite misogynist. There's no need to go there.
Personally, i can't stand the woman. But let's just stick to gender neutral terms like "lying sack of shit". It fits her much better, anyway.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:29 PM
Response to Original message
28. If you look at the whole thing, she does well.
I don't mind saying. I would love to see Obama do so well up against one of those guys, but he isn't the fast over-talker that you have to be to do it. In any case, a slight misstatement is not so bad (though it really does sound bad!).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:48 PM
Response to Original message
29. So Bush like - Have and Have nots! The truth came out & now she wants to put it back!
NOT THIS TIME!!!!!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:58 PM
Response to Original message
30. I heard "bless"
as in us rich people, not blessed as in being American or god granting wealth. I heard elitism...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:23 AM
Response to Original message
31. FWIW Fox transcript...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,353759,00.html

"O'REILLY: But I'm not a middle-class family. I'm a rich guy.

CLINTON: Well, and you know what? Rich people, God bless us. We deserve all the opportunities...

O'REILLY: All right.

CLINTON: ...to make sure our country and our blessings continue to the next generation..."



"This is a rush transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," April 30, 2008. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated."





Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:26 AM
Response to Original message
32. Jesus, is she capable of getting through one day with a huge, public lie?
I hope this one burns her down.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #32
35. Hey thats the Clinton they will lie on a stack of bibles
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:55 AM
Response to Original message
36. As a Clinton supporter...
Edited on Fri May-02-08 02:57 AM by Stand and Fight
I hate to say it, but the campaign is lying. She clearly says, "God bless us." That being said, I believe that people are actually either misunderstanding or misinterpreting her remarks. It's pretty clear to me that she was using the term humorously. Not with malice or malcontent toward another class of folks. Honestly, some of you anti-Clinton folks should be more realistic. I must restate however that Senator Clinton clearly says, "God bless us..." with humor.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GMFORD Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:25 AM
Response to Reply #36
38. I thought she was going to say something humorous
but she didn't. I expected the sentence to end with ' and everyone deserves the opportunities we've had'. I was surprised when it didn't. What she said was pure elitism...we're rich and we deserve it.

Why the spin from her campaign when we can clearly hear what she said? Why not just say it was a poor choice of words and what she meant was .

Let's wait and see if the Obama campaign beats her blatantly elitist statement to death. My money says he won't allow it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:06 AM
Response to Original message
40. There was no "-ed" at the end of "bless" - no freaking way, and I listened 3 times
Gee, I wonder why they got all defensive about that . . . :silly:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:13 AM
Response to Original message
42. SHE WAS MOCKING OREILLY YOU IDIOTS
Christ, do you think that even Hillary would be stupid enough to go in front of Faux's mouthbreathing audience and literally do a dance of the rich people with O'Reilly?

I've never supported Hillary the warmonger, but honestly I've never seen so much stupidity on this board before. O'Reilly was whining about being taxed more because he's rich, and she started mocking his rich person's whine, saying "oh us rich people we deserve so much we have it so hard we only think of ourselves . . . "

I mean, come on, this is the stupidest smear ever. JUST BECAUSE she couldn't use the SARCASM tag during an interview doesn't mean you can't use your brains and add it. fuck, is our discourse doomed to be this stupid for ever?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:17 AM
Response to Reply #42
44. In our own way, we DU'ers are the worst kind of "low information voters". n/t
Edited on Fri May-02-08 10:18 AM by lumberjack_jeff
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KnaveRupe Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:45 AM
Response to Reply #42
47. I disagree.
She went into immediate pander mode. It wasn't because she really thinks "god bless us rich people" - it was that she immediately and reflexively started to agree and co opt someone's aggrieved whine, and about halfway into it - right around the word "deserve" - she realized what she was saying and tried to get out of it.

You can see the deer-in-the-headlights, "Oh, shit" moment pretty clearly, as she tries to talk herself out of what she just realized she stepped in.

Again, I don't think she was consciously rubbing elbows with falafel-man, but she wasn't being sarcastic either.

And, again, the point is that her guy LIED about what she actually said on the conference call. He didn't defend what she said as sarcasm aimed at Bill-o, he tried to spin it as something else.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:25 AM
Response to Original message
45. self delete
Edited on Fri May-02-08 10:29 AM by lumberjack_jeff
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 03:39 PM
Response to Original message
48. OK, that's not enough context
to know what she was talking about. It's just typical to try and spin that though. My goodness, what is the matter with some of Hillary's supporters?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon May 06th 2024, 06:09 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Political Videos Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC