WTF ::: Obama monkey T-shirts raise ire

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There is precedent for a preventative cure. We only need to broaden the law to include people such as the curious george monkey shirt person and his progeny.

The United States Supreme Court in Buck V. Bell, carefully weighed the issues.

Mr. Justice HOLMES delivered the opinion of the Court.

"This is a writ of error to review a judgment of the Supreme Court of Appeals of the State of Virginia, affirming a judgment of the Circuit Court of Amherst County, by which the defendant in error, the superintendent of the State Colony for Epileptics and Feeble Minded, was ordered to perform the operation of salpingectomy upon Carrie Buck, the plaintiff in error, for the purpose of making her sterile. 143 Va. 310, 130 S. E. 516. The case comes here upon the contention that the statute authorizing the judgment is void under the Fourteenth Amendment as denying to the plaintiff in error due process of law and the equal protection of the laws.

Carrie Buck is a feeble-minded white woman who was committed to the State Colony above mentioned in due form. She is the daughter of a feeble- minded mother in the same institution, and the mother of an illegitimate feeble-minded child. She was eighteen years old at the time of the trial of her case in the Circuit Court in the latter part of 1924. An Act of Virginia approved March 20, 1924 (Laws 1924, c. 394) recites that the health of the patient and the welfare of society may be promoted in certain cases by the sterilization of mental defectives, under careful safeguard, etc.; that the sterilization may be effected in males by vasectomy and in females by salpingectomy, without serious pain or substantial danger to life; that the Commonwealth is supporting in various institutions many defective persons who if now discharged would become <274 U.S. 200, 206> a menace but if incapable of procreating might be discharged with safety and become self-supporting with benefit to themselves and to society; and that experience has shown that heredity plays an important part in the transmission of insanity, imbecility, etc. The statute then enacts that whenever the superintendent of certain institutions including the abovenamed State Colony shall be of opinion that it is for the best interest of the patients and of society that an inmate under his care should be sexually sterilized, he may have the operation performed upon any patient afflicted with hereditary forms of insanity, imbecility, etc., on complying with the very careful provisions by which the act protects the patients from possible abuse.

The superintendent first presents a petition to the special board of directors of his hospital or colony, stating the facts and the grounds for his opinion, verified by affidavit. Notice of the petition and of the time and place of the hearing in the institution is to be served upon the inmate, and also upon his guardian, and if there is no guardian the superintendent is to apply to the Circuit Court of the County to appoint one. If the inmate is a minor notice also is to be given to his parents, if any, with a copy of the petition. The board is to see to it that the inmate may attend the hearings if desired by him or his guardian. The evidence is all to be reduced to writing, and after the board has made its order for or against the operation, the superintendent, or the inmate, or his guardian, may appeal to the Circuit Court of the County. The Circuit Court may consider the record of the board and the evidence before it and such other admissible evidence as may be offered, and may affirm, revise, or reverse the order of the board and enter such order as it deems just. Finally any party may apply to the Supreme Court of Appeals, which, if it grants the appeal, is to hear the case upon the record of the trial <274 U.S. 200, 207> in the Circuit Court and may enter such order as it thinks the Circuit Court should have entered. There can be no doubt that so far as procedure is concerned the rights of the patient are most carefully considered, and as every step in this case was taken in scrupulous compliance with the statute and after months of observation, there is no doubt that in that respect the plaintiff in error has had due process at law.

The attack is not upon the procedure but upon the substantive law. It seems to be contended that in no circumstances could such an order be justified. It certainly is contended that the order cannot be justified upon the existing grounds. The judgment finds the facts that have been recited and that Carrie Buck 'is the probable potential parent of socially inadequate offspring, likewise afflicted, that she may be sexually sterilized without detriment to her general health and that her welfare and that of society will be promoted by her sterilization,' and thereupon makes the order. In view of the general declarations of the Legislature and the specific findings of the Court obviously we cannot say as matter of law that the grounds do not exist, and if they exist they justify the result. We have seen more than once that the public welfare may call upon the best citizens for their lives. It would be strange if it could not call upon those who already sap the strength of the State for these lesser sacrifices, often not felt to be such by those concerned, in order to prevent our being swamped with incompetence. It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind. The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes. Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 , 25 S. Ct. 358, 3 Ann. Cas. 765. Three generations of imbeciles are enough. <274 U.S. 200, 208> But, it is said, however it might be if this reasoning were applied generally, it fails when it is confined to the small number who are in the institutions named and is not applied to the multitudes outside. It is the usual last resort of constitutional arguments to point out shortcomings of this sort. But the answer is that the law does all that is needed when it does all that it can, indicates a policy, applies it to all within the lines, and seeks to bring within the lines all similary situated so far and so fast as its means allow. Of course so far as the operations enable those who otherwise must be kept confined to be returned to the world, and thus open the asylum to others, the equality aimed at will be more nearly reached."

That had such wonderful results.

:sarcasm:

but only narrowly circumscribed instances of imbecilic propogation due to in-breeding or other untreatable genetic defects that tend to be passed on by heredity. I wouldn't say that it should be administered owing merely to sarcasm.

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heard that on the news. Permission was not given to use that likeness.

not much else to say about these assholes. the other thing to keep in mind, they are the same pathetic, ignorant souls be it blacks, women or just simple a democrat/liberal. what they are doing to black would be no different that what they would do if it were a female or a democrat alone

That does not reflect well on that town.

This is Newt's district. Its a mix of in-your-face evangelical types, uppwardly-mobile "family friendly" gated communities, and old timey redneck throwbacks. Cobb County claimed national "fame and ridicule" by passing a nasty anti-gay ordinance in the mid-1990s, which resulted in the 1996 Olympic volleyball events being moved from its original Cobb County location.

Here's some history --- http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE7DD103EF93AA1575BC0A965958260

This shit happening in Marietta is fucked-up but no great surprise.

I'm from LaGrange, Ga. (Troup County). I move in Nov. to Leesville,La. which is home to FORT POLK, My baby sister was just deployed to IRAQ,my baby brother and my baby sister both fought in the first gulf war, my oldest brother and myself was in the military doing the viet nam war, and this is the thanks we get not only from some Americans but our own hom e state.

Probably because the only times I went out were for karaoke and the local Starship Enterprises adult video store on Roswell. One of the few bastions of liberalism in that town. :D Believe it or not, they have an ordinance in that town for banning the sale of sex toys, videos and alcohol at strip clubs.

I think I might start doing the same.

Wait. The word "racist" will have even more weight in a few months, and with good reason. People like this jerk are about as blatant as they can get with their racism, but always find a way to excuse it or pass the blame off to a misunderstanding or some other doublespeak BS. We need to call it what it is, racism. But not get so carried away that we throw that word around needlessly, otherwise it will lose its weight, much as charges of "sexism" did after they were so repeatedly tossed around without reason.

I grant you that the gentleman who created the curious monkey shirt is a racist. However the sad reality is that he probably doesn't even realize it and can never appreciate his shortcoming in this regard. In-breeding, for the number of generations it must have taken to produce such a being, takes a very heavy toll, as he amply demonstrates by his words and actions. The best way to remedy the situation is by enacting a law that would permit society to impose involuntary chemical castration on the victims of in-breeding and, yes, we should consider him a victim. He did not breed himself, afterall. Any male offspring the gentleman may have produced should also be rounded up and examined to determine if they, too, are in-bred, and if so, the law should provide that they be forced to undergo the same procedure. At least by this small measure we could put a halt to the further propogation of imbeciles. We remain compassionate, understanding that, sadly, he can't help it, but how many generations of in-breeding must we tolerate?

....it was offensive! Poor little Mikey had NO IDEA depicting a black man as a monkey was wrong. He's not racist! He's just DUMBER THAN DIRT.... bless his heart.

1. He's violating a copy-write with the Curious George image. So his ugly ass should be sued.

2. Someone just might go to his shitty restaurant and just happen to find a cockroach in their food. Not that I would suggest someone do that.

Yes, indeedy

The roach in the food would be icing on the cake.

I wonder if someone could place an anonymous call to the health dept?

Nice little suprise inspection?

....I just want to say thank you! I'm trying to set an example and try to mend our party for the GE and I respect that you took the time to speak out against these horrible T-Shirts, keep those intelligent juices flowing!

Peace, my friend.


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Not only is this incredibly offensive, I suspect that the vendor could be a target of a lawsuit from NBC Universal and Houghton Mifflin.

Wouldn't somebody like to make their IP lawyers aware of this trademark violation?

They should roundup everyone of those shirts and burn them! And that bar owner is full of shit.

What a bunch of racist ass wipes!

May you learn to do more of it....

lol!

....and I can say the same about you for Hillary, but the point is.....I just wanted to say, from one Democrat to another, Thank You! It's people like you that can help all democrats Unite to combat, resolve, and educate people like the ones in WV that need to open their minds....to not vote for Hillary for racist reasons but because they believe in their candidate and to ultimately bring our all of our troops home from Iraq....we can't forget these purposes and I know we can overcome these animosities.....racially and from our campaign biases....so I'm taking my time out, just like you did, to speak out against this bigotry and to give you a true Democrat hug....PEACE!

Democrat 08'!!! To the White House and beyond!

:toast: :pals: :hug: :hippie:

about those fucking insipid Hillary nutcrackers that look to be (and probably were) designed by a bunch of 13-year-old boys.

I know the struggle of this primary has brought out the worst in some of us Democrats, but the worst was there in the other side all along. Never forget it.

I swear, ever since I bought a Harley, (since I love riding), I run into these dipshits all the fucking time. Love the bike, don't care much for the owners though. I simply can't lower my intelligence enough to hang out with these turds.

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...don't attack the Hillary supporters, so far they think this is disturbing and wrong as well if you read the previous posts. I'm a big Obama supporter and I despise these shirts and their obvious purpose, and I'm pretty Hillary would too, no matter how much I despise her....but her and her supporters are not the topic on this thread, THEY ARE, so focus on them because we are gonna need those same Hillary supporters to get Obama to the White house this Nov., PEACE
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and I do mean venomous.

This is the kind of thing nobody but a real redneck racist would get tolerate.

I attacked her. Directly. Purposefully. Without remorse or regret.

Though I'm not sure why her supporters would be so offended by this considering the fact that it's this type of sentiment that Hitllary is using to bolster her campaign. I'm not attacking her supporters cuz I imagine that some of them are genuinely offended, but the hypocrisy is palpable. Sorry, but denunciation by people supporting her efforts to use these EXACT kinds of sentiments to her advantage carry ZERO weight with me.

That said don't not vote for him cuz you don't like me, I'm not the nominee. I feel the way I feel and I'm not apologizing to anyone for it.

there are obviously Hillary supporters that DON"T support this crap, and I'm just saying, we don't want to group the innocent ones into the group of racists that POSE as Hillary supporters, there is a difference, I know that by being from Idaho where I'm an Obama supporter and I have friends that are far from being racists that support Hillary, there are the bad apples but not as many as you think. We need to reach out to Hillary supporters, we need to Unite as a party and not shove them out of the way because Hillary herself or "bad apples" are the ones to blame. This is a great opportunity to thank the 2 very Hardcore Hillary supporters that have dissagreed with this through their post responses, we need to be friendly with them, they know the road is going to be over soon for their canadate so we need to reach out and be more friendly to them, especially when the smart ones are admitting to being on the same page as us on this issue, it's an opportunity you and all of us need to take and think about....all I can say is that we've done our part on this here in Idaho, we are all getting along a lot better now ever since Obama's last win, slowly but surly. A good chunk of these Hillary supporters understand reality deep down in the back of their heads....even if only sometimes they will admit it regarding Hillary's campaign (and their probably not from WV) and they understand this issue as well as being horribly degrading, so we should push aside inter-fraction-partisan bickering and respect them for being on the same page with us on this...so instead of apologize, which is not what I asked for, you should instead as a fellow Democrat thank them....it's just the right thing to do...after all the inter-party bickering that's taken place.
There is such a thing as being the "better person" and stepping up to admit truth like they have or us by thanking them and giving them a good ole' Democrat pat on the back and smile...


PEACE


OBAMA 08'!

these two, figuratively, are the 7 foot giants slinging around a giant battle axe AND a foot long dick (I hope that's not sexist - I'm trying to be complimentary).

They are representative of a good many of her supporters.

Doing battle with them is fun (for lack of a more appropriate word), but tiring, and really:

Which side do you want them on? Seriously?

Because snark like yours is a gift...no matter who's side you're on...you're kind of like a severely sassy VirginiaDare...

I wouldn't call you venomous if given the choice...acerbic maybe...but not venomous. You just don't post enough hit pieces.

It's Houghton Mifflin and they are owned by NBC Universal as I mentioned upthread.
Some companies have an e-mail address where you can report trademark violations. Otherwise try to find contact information for their intellectual property lawyer.

I also just heard this reported on the radio while it was at lunch. It's getting national coverage apart from CNN, so it's likely that NBC Universal and Houghton Mifflin are already aware of it, but it couldn't hurt to report it.

Do it.

If you find contact info, post it here and I'll bet a bunch of us will join you.

http://www.nbcuni.com/


NBCUniSupport@nbcuni.com



Let's see what we can find.

I know, not the point but take a bath you are on TV trying to be the superior race.

but but but...
hillary supporters say racism doesnt exsist!
surely they arent wrong!

As you can read here:

http://www.ajc.com/wireless/content/metro/cobb/stories/2008/05/13/mulligans_0514.html

The shirts came from Arkansas....

Good luck getting this genie back in the bottle....looks like a lawsuit may be the only way to stop this crap.

(Did you see the poll? 65% found the shirt offensive while 35% thought it was "fine")

http://www.ajc.com/wireless/content/metro/cobb/stories/2008/05/13/mulligans_0514.html

On the left side of the page just over half way down.

Saddening that 35% are just hunky-dory with it.

I hope they put this f*cktard out of business for life, and that anyone caught wearing the shirt gets rotten garbage dumped on him...

NBCUniSupport@nbcuni.com

They have the copy writes to Curious George.

Let's at least get the ball rolling some place.

trade_permissions@hmco.com

This is ridiculous. I can't believe people still think this way.

They sold out. Sad.

three months from now it will be raining racism. They will play hardball. we should too