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SaveOurSovereignty Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 08:18 PM
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John McCain Campaigns In Canada?
 
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 08:51 PM
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1. It's not like we'd vote for him up here, even if we could. n/m
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Tutonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:02 PM
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2. Lou Dobbs is a fat pasty bag of dough
Edited on Fri Jun-20-08 09:10 PM by Tutonic
And he finally found one Hispanic surnamed female to go along with his racist diatribe. She probably got tricked into the interview. Unfortunately if he had his way he'd put her on the back of the truck headed for Nogales too. She was too stupid to understand that his repeated use of "ethnocentric pandering" was a veiled reference to people like her--Hispanics--not "illegal Mexicans." He's not focusing on illegal entry into this country--he's looking at "ethnocentric pandering." Hell, he probably has wet dreams at night about throwing all the blacks into the Atlantic with a raft (to him it doesn't matter if they're from Haiti Bahamas, Brazil--"get their black asses out of here") , send the Hispanics to Mexico (but you say you're Philippino--"Mr. Dobbs don't give a damn, get you're ass inside that U-Haul, and send the Pacific-Asian people to China (but you're from Japan--"hey quit talking back to the man--get your ass on that rickshaw.") Rather than focus on issues that really affect Americans (housing, food costs, employment, the illegal wars, etc) Dobbs like so many other right wingers focuses on a "hot" issue that typically has meaning only to some other right wing idiot that is holed up in some part of this country where minorities dont' even exist. So when John McCain talks about his strong affection for Hagee, Bauer and others that have spoken with so much vitriol about minorities and immigration reform and then traevls to Chicago to pander on immigration reform, he shows a lack of respect for the principles that this country was founded on--and he perhaps more than any legal or illegal minority should be the real basis of Dobb's rage.
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DRex Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:43 PM
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3. As per Dobb's nitpicking on the point of Spanish being spoken first in Arizona...
He replies that in fact Native American dialects were spoken first.

Maybe Lou should ship out back to Europe then, if he is going to take such an approach to American history.

There's a grain of truth in what he says. America doesn't belong to him anymore than it belongs to the Mexicans crossing the border 'illegally'.

What a knob-end.
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Mark D. Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 11:18 PM
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4. Did You Watch It?
Edited on Fri Jun-20-08 11:24 PM by Mark D.
He's making a good point here. I too want to see companies punished for hiring illegal workers, as they are why they come here, it would solve the problem. Dobbs mentions that while the GOP just yell 'build a fence' all the time. Furthermore, he's not racist, he's been married to a Mexican-American woman for over 25 yeays. Please wake up. His statement on the damage to the middle class is much needed. A lone voice against exporting American jobs.
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Tutonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 12:02 AM
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5. Hey when Pat Buchanan ran for PresNut
His running mate was a black woman. And one of Jesse Helms top staff members was a blackman. Does this effectively take off the table their racist views toward blacks? Marriage to an Hispanic woman neither takes off the table that Dobbs has a "recorded" history of racist sentiments and absolutely does not make him a sympathetic figure.
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 07:11 AM
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6. Here's my take on the illegal immigration business, if you care to hear it.
First of all, there is not that much real physical difference between border states and Mexico. They have mostly the same geological and geographical composition. It's mainly just a line in the sand. The conditions change as you look south but it's mostly still a region that has the same economic and natural resources as the US. Their problem is and has been political. Through whatever means they have failed their people. Corruption is a fundamental reality in Central America. Poverty is their reality and they are doing what any human being would do in a similar situation. I have no disdain for a person that does whatever they deem necessary for mere survival. People follow the money. It makes sense. We (apparently) have a need for cheap labor. That employment drives their migration north. The jobs available to them here pay low wages. That means we attract poorly educated immigrants. What people here do not like to see is poorly educated poor people all over their neighborhoods. It offends our sense of community and balance. These newcomers form their own communities, overwhelm our cities by their numbers and the native citizens object to their presence. More and more Spanish TV and radio stations begin to appear to accomodate this community. More Spanish billboards are erected. Entire regions of the US become totally dominated by a foreign culture in every way. What nation of people wouldn't object to this? It feels like an invasion. It is like a group of people you don't know have crashed your party. They are behaving themselves, and are quietly drinking your punch and cookies, remaining on the fringe and out of the spotlight, but they weren't invited. It's uncomfortable and troubling, because you don't know them.

Questions arise such as, "Why should I pay for their kids' education?" "Why should our hospitals close because of indigent care?" "Why can't I get my car paid for after an illegal alien smashes into me with no insurance?" "Why should I have to subsidize their pregnancy?" These are totaly legitimate questions. I often hear the argument made that, "I just want a better life for my children." Well, so does everyone else! If you couldn't afford to provide that better life, then why did you choose to have children to start with? Could you not control yourself? Could you not choose to abstain from unprotected intercourse? I have no children because I can not afford to pay for them on my income. I make $18 an hour. If you are desperately poor what business do you have procreating? It's seems to me that is a selfish and thoughtless act that makes you not a victim, but a perpetrator of the problem. OK, so you made a mistake, now what? Bring that burden to bear on others? Make the selfish decision to have us all pay for your irresponsibility? No contraception because of your religious faith? I shouldn't have to pay for that. My tax dollars should pay for things that benefit society at large, not pay for someone to take advantage of the good will of America.

Everyone wants a better life. Illegal immigration makes that harder for US citizens and other immigrants from abroad more difficult. Not everyone has the ability to just walk over the border and squat here. Other countries have people just as needy and just as industrious as those from Central America. It's not an issue of race at all. It's an issue of fairness and equality. That's the American way. Jumping in line ahead of others is the republican way.

Ok, so since we aren't going to round them all up and deport the undocumented workers because is too expensive, invasive, and well, plain evil, what do we do? The republicans want them here. They are our cheap labor force. They are union busting scabs that keep wages down. The Democrats figure that since we're not going to get rid of them by enforcing the existing laws, we might as well make them citizens and let them vote. That makes sense. They are here and they aren't going anywhere. They deserve to have some representation. If we aren't going to enforce the laws then I agree. The republicans want "a guest worker program". That fits their needs pretty neatly: Cheap labor that can't vote. See how that serves their interests? It's just lovely.

I am sure some of you out there are gonna attack something I said but I said everything here with best intentions and without any intent of either racism and classism. It's based on what people feel and what appears to be happening in the real world.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 10:55 AM
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7. I'm impressed they found a Female Hispanic Republican Illegal Immigration Activist...
That's quite an oxymoron.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 11:13 AM
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8. He has about as good a chance of being Prime Minister of Canada as President of the United States
Maybe he can campaign in Zimbabwe. I'm sure he'd be an improvement over Mugabe.
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