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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 04:56 PM
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Gov. Bobby 'Chemical Castration' Jindal (R-LA)
 
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Wow - he doesn't care what the political consequences are for him. What a brave guy.







/sarcasm, obviously
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SanchoPanza Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 05:51 PM
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1. No possibility for this law to have unintended consequences.
Oh. Wait.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson_v._State_of_Georgia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Dixon

But we can all rest knowing that Louisiana has absolutely no history of harsh and unwarranted sentences given to young black men, right?
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 06:37 PM
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2. It's good to see that Gilligan was rescued from the desserted island.
But I didn't know he had such a mean streak.
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Hatalles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:15 PM
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7. LOL. Governor Gilligan. I like it!
nt
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uberllama42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 07:04 PM
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3. How many Catholic priests is Bobby going to castrate?
Child molesters are monsters, whether lay or clergy. I'd like to see him apply his Levitical bullshit to one of his own.

If he hates child rapists so much, has he taken up the issue with the Vatican?
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 11:08 AM
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13. good point
There's the elephant in the room right there.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 07:49 PM
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4. yikes - hope McPain picks him ! Although I do believe that
there is a mental imbalance in sex offenders. It would be good if
they could willingingly get something to take the drive away. I have seen
interviews where they beg to be locked up so they don't hurt
anyone else.

I think there is still so much to learn about the human brain.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 10:54 PM
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17. It doesn't keep them for thinking about whatever passes for sex with them, it just prevents erection
Without getting into the horrible details, lack of erection barely limits their ability to hurt a kid.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 09:44 PM
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5. Considering he believes he performed an exorcism and wants creationism...
this isn't surprising.
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 10:54 PM
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6.  Wow...a new form of "enhanced interrogation" on the way. Do these idiots have ...
...anything else to deal with? And suppose they find out the guy was innocent later on?...do they tie it back on??

What an asshole. Go repugs. Fascist, fascist, fascist....woot!!
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 12:30 AM
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8. The death penalty doesn't protect our childtren from 'these monsters"
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 12:31 AM
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9. It only removes them from suffering or being punished 'sause their dead.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 12:33 AM
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10. Isn't removing them what it is all about. This nut is kill crazy and stupid.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 12:36 AM
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11. Wouldn't locking them up for life and telling the family yu killed them accomplish the same thing
for the victims. The idea is to remove them forever. It doesn't change anything or protect anybody by killing them after the fact. Jindal is a stupid psychopath and a jury of idiots is still a jury of idiots. What a maggot.
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 11:05 AM
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12. wow
Edited on Fri Jun-27-08 11:07 AM by rniel
I'm going to get flamed. This Jindal is a religious nutball whackjob but I pretty much agree with what he's saying here. I think this crime is right up there maybe worse than murder. I definately don't want anyone innocent to have to go through this but those who are guilty of this I don't feel sorry for them at all.
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Mark D. Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 12:19 PM
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14. The Brain / Castration
Edited on Fri Jun-27-08 12:28 PM by Mark D.
This is my theory and many in medicine support it. It is orientation. Most are attracted to the opposite sex. Some are attracted to the same sex, and some to both sexes. This usually is for adults only. Sometimes the above three classes of orientation are for children.

What they'd do is 'sick' in that it makes you feel sick when you hear of the offense. But it's not 'sickness' and it's not what can be 'cured' by counseling or punishment. If I get 'punished' by being locked up and then I am counseled on why being attracted to adult's of the opposite sex is wrong, will that in fact cure me? No. Trying to change orientation like that is like changing the direction of the entire Mississippi River with a small shovel by yourself. It is just ridiculous.

There needs to be a nationwide understanding that in ALL orientations there are sociopaths. Be it an adult male holding down an adult female and forcing sex, or a the same person who did that to a child. Obviously, children are more damaged by that experience. But that is not my point. Evil predatory people should be punished.

But we need to offer nationwide a fully taxpayer funded chemical castration program, for those who see children as sexually attractive, along with a lifetime ankle bracelet and monitoring as an additional option. If someone doesn't sign up for it and is caught once doing that, they get punished, and an ankle bracelet indefinitely, and offered chemical castration.

If it fails, 2nd offense, chemical/surgical castration and prison and lifetime ankle bracelet monitoring upon their release. Those are people who went after them even when the biological sexual desire they have was removed with their testosterone. They are sociopaths and thus a threat to others that lost any 'rights' as far as I'm concerned.

Don't scream fascism. Defending the perpetrator at the expense of victims future is what makes us Democrat / Liberals often seem 'weak'. There are times for hard-line measures. Studies show chemical castration having something like a 90% or better working rate in cases of serial pedophiles not repeating their offense. Far better than not using it...

I expect to hear: "It's a power thing". Yes and no. Power is created mostly by what's created in the gonads. Androgens. Testosterone. Without it, men would be as non-violent and non-power hungry as typical women are as it is the main way we are really different. Without testosterone, we'd be born women, all of us. That's the root of the aggression.

Yes, women can and do molest too. Yes, they go to jail for violence. One look at the vast majority of Hirsutism and masculinity (butchiness) in the female prison population says it is what got them there too, too much testosterone. Cut it by that 90% and deal with that 10%, which is easier than the 100% in every case by doing nothing. This is one group, in that 10% that it doesn't work on, that NEEDS 'big brother' to watch via those bracelets.

Or we can poo-poo it. Get called 'pinkos' and have our affinity for civil rights for all, including LGBT folks equated with loving pedophiles. Nothing will change as far as how it happens. 1/4 females are sexually assaulted by the time they are 18, that's reported, and if we knew of all cases and include those raped as adults, it could be as high as 1 in 2.

Give credit for the typical female-repressive GOP for taking a harder stance on this. The focus on the 'horror when it's done to kids, especially boys' is typical fear-mongering in a sexist patriarchal society. But aside from that, we need to address that reality. It is orientation. And damned right serial molesters in the Catholic Church need the same 'solution' applied there.
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szatmar666 Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 01:18 PM
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15. Let's not forget we have kangoroo courts in the US
I have no doubt that the facts of this one case may prompt even some reasonable people to reach for crazy solutions, but the real question is what guarantees that in the future there will be no innocent victims of this?! How about political witch-hunts?! How about framing by the authorities?! This is what communists were doing very successfully to instill fear in society. We know Scott Ritter was falsely accused of having child porn on his computer right after he spoke up against the impending war in Iraq. First we should fix our broken justice system that incarcerates 1 in every 136 Americans, or 750/100,000 out of which it locks up black men at a rate of 4,800/100,000 and out of that black men ages 25-29 at a rate of 12,000/100,000. To put these numbers in perspective. Currently Japan, the only other major industrialized democratic country that has the death penalty locks up 1 in every 2000 of its citizens. Apartheid South Africa in 1990 locked up black men at a rate of 850/100,000!

We should fix our democracy and the justice system before we expand it and give it more punitive powers.
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Mark D. Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 11:33 AM
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16. More Power
There is a reason to fear more punitive power. But chemical castration is reversable. And ankle bracelets can be removed. Repeat offenders lessen their own chances of being innocent. Many do it dozens of times to the point we KNOW they are monsters and cannot be stopped and locking them up just teaches them to be more violent and doesn't fix the reality that this is their orientation, and you have to shut off what causes it, the testosterone. I'm all for being careful, but if you find by DNA tests the same semen from the same guy in different kids, or especially if they admit their 'sickness', as often is the case, not using stronger methods of control at that point is just foolish really.
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