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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 09:45 PM
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WTC 1&2 in the furnace with baudrillard
 
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The video shows 2 scale models of the world trade center glowing red hot in a coke fired furnace.

... a little more jet fuel and they are about to explode in to mushroom clouds! ;-)
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 09:58 PM
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1. I couldn't see anything.
What am I missing?
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 10:04 PM
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3. the audio
apologies

There is simply nothing impressive about trying to melt steel in even a furnace,
unless one is planning to use bottled oxygen... The 2 towers stand in the video
the whole time, glowing bright red, without any deformation.

There is an audio narrative that is relevant, i felt.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 09:59 PM
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2. jet fuel...
is kerosene! :shrug:
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 10:09 PM
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4. no, jet fuel is thermate
kerosene is not hot enough to melt steel.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:46 PM
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6. JP-4...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JP-4 the only ref i have with it is that hubby worked in the oil industry for years and bought & sold the stuff, along with fuel oil by the millions x 10's+++ of barrels :shrug: mentioned it is part of the crude oil cracking process but is cleaner, higher end again :shrug:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 12:48 AM
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10. aye, 'baudrillard' says are they different.
They are just words with different letters for you and i.

The video camera has trouble with very hot photography, i was a bit disappointed,
as the left tower was glowing hot red at the top, but not just a bit down... it was so
telling of a quality of steel, that even in a furnace, the less-red part was like a heat-sink
for the hotter bit. At best, i was expecting a slump in the structures, as the weight imploded
them when white hot, but unfortunately, the furnace did not heat the whole structure enough to
get a net-melting in a controlled burn.

I'd be very impressed if any NIST person or story=backer could achieve in their home furnace,
a melting of steel with hydrocarbons... without bottled oxygen or chemical explosives.

But it doesn't matter, because whatever that 'jet fuel' was as an icon in consciousness
that we will never ever ever be able to verify no matter how many tardis taxi's we may wish for,
was whatever jet fuel it was, it turned out to be thermite. :hi:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 01:14 AM
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11. cool, all the best to you, friend...
:hi: :hug:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:11 PM
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5. what is this trying to prove?
i`ve worked in a steel forging plant and steel can stay shaped until one applies pressure.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 12:36 AM
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9. the consensus is unforged
We are molten, the 'atmosphere', if we are still using the allegory of
the borges fable... It is a deconstruction of psyops.
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slowry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 06:08 AM
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13. what
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necklace Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:49 PM
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7. Beautiful, but not really related to WTC, is it?
Unless what your saying is that 9/11 is the beginning of this destruction.

BTW, couldn't filter out the barking from your audio, huh?!?
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 12:22 AM
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8. The simulacrum
There is no WTC, just a territory, a map... a genetic model.

It is a media theme, does it come across?

The doggies screwed up the previous 2 outtakes with false barking
references!! cheekey woofers :-) They wanted a bark hyperlink in there
for the 9-11 dog-truth community.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 01:52 AM
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12. Baudrillard is where the Wachowski brothers got the term "Desert of the Real" for the Matrix.
I bought Simulacra and Simulation and wow... :wow:
That is some heavy worded readying! Some of his sentences you could write a thesis on. They are so long!

Interesting stuff. Trippy video!
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 12:30 PM
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14. Locking.
Please review the guidelines for posting political videos in the political video forum.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x9


Thank you!

Call Me Wesley
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