TYT: Cenk's Take On Obama & Off-Shore Drilling

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What about all the thousands of acres the oil companies now have access to that they are NOT using?

Stop the rape of our country and natural resources.

Obama better be listening, or he's going to be facing the same cynics that this corrupt administration is facing.

I just want to share this recent clip where .

This is just one of many examples where Cenk heaps praise onto Obama, and of course |he regularly argues against McCain]. Again, just providing some context.

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Obama ran his whole campaign on holding hands with the thugs. Saying we should all get along. No surprise to me.

it's about who he does represent, the American people or corporate interests, the answer should be obvious.

On this yet have they? Hopefully he can make another flip flop back. This like watching gymnastics.

I was flip flopping on this, wanting to do whatever it took to get us in the WH. But, as Cenk says, when we capitulate, we are saying "we were wrong - you were right."

If they (we) had presented this clearly enough, we wouldn't be in this situation now.

Again, as Cenk said, WE NEVER FIGHT.

Given the stubbornness on both sides, compromise is a must as far as I see it.
It's clear that NO energy initiatives would pass on the senate floor regarding off shore drilling, or cap and trade, or any other initiative unless there is a filibuster proof majority for either side. So to say Obama looks weak, or the Democrats lay down/give in is a unfair (In this particular scenario anyway). Cenk also failed to mention the initiatives that the Democrats would be given a pass on that the Republicans do not approve of. (Oil Company profit taxes etc.) Lastly, it's a compromise of plans, it doesn't in anyway says that Obama changed his opinion on off shore drilling, but simply realizes that for progress to be made on the issue both sides have to give a little.

After the Senate elections, i'm pretty sure less compromise will have to be made though.

The Dems are in control of what gets voted on ~ Pelosi did the right thing this week by not letting offshore drilling come to a vote.

The argument is that the *perception* will be that Obama looks weak. Most people (think low-info voters) won't make and are not aware of such a nuanced argument regarding the initiatives you mention above.

Same thing with Obama being "partially" open to "some" drilling. Look, some of the spin might be good. I sincerely hope it is in the MSM. Hopefully it's spun as Obama being reasonable and willing to compromise and work with the other side, etc.

But more likely the conservatives on television will present it negatively and say Obama realized he was wrong and was losing on this issue so he had no choice, etc. And the Republicans will say "ah hah, see, we TOLD YOU SO". Not only that, but they'll say he's a flip-flopper AND that he's STILL wrong because he's not going far enough.

It's a lose-lose in that situation. But again, I really hope I'm wrong.

This is exactly the way to lose.

here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3718328&mesg_id=3718328

it didn't get very far.. :-(

thanks for posting this!

He needs to hear this.

Obama has shifted his position on off shore drilling because he believes it will help him win the election. He is wrong. This type of move lowers the enthusiasm level of his base. My heart sank when I read about the shift. Is a gas tax holiday now on the table as a compromise?

He thinks he needs to pander to get elected. How sad.

I did not see the source for this, so I'm taking Cenk's word on it.

I really wish Obama would turn around on this one. The myth that its safe and causes no damage is
total bullshit. McCain wanted to have a photo op on a drilling platform but couldn't because they
just had a spill there and had to go to another platform to do it. It saddens me to see Obama
capitulate like this...so he can seem reasonable to unreasonable idiots.:banghead:

oh yeah - and on choice.

and welcome Bart.

With Al Gore at his elbow leading him the way, I doubt Obama is serious. Experts say that off-shore drilling won't alleviate the oil criss anytime soon, if at all. We have enough oil in this country, or in reserve to lower the prices immediately. The oil crisis is another BushCo creation to rob the people blind and cause a clamoring for the phony off-shore drilling solution. Obama is trying to appease the masses who think that off-shore drilling will be the answer to lower prices at the pumps because McShame is now promoting to aid his failing campaign.

every time he does this crap it makes people not give a dayum about whats going on

integrity in Democratic pols any more, and this is why. We don't need to see O get feisty or nasty in response to McSame's attacks--we just need to be confident that he takes a principled stand on issues and is willing to stick with it. This sucks big.

I can't BELIEVE the IDIOTS - yes IDIOTS - here who still TRY unsuccessfully to argue that this is a GOOD move on the part of obama...

One of the most environmentally responsible countries on the planet gets almost it's entire supply of oil from offshore rigs. Norway has been doing this for decades in the North Sea without a single incident. BUT I don't like the idea of big oil making any more money than what they already have. Those of you opposed to it, I'm with you. But let's not really start panicking if it ends up happening. We would rather Obama institute it with the proper safeguards for sure, but it's not the end of the world.