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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 12:17 PM
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30 second ad: Sean Hannity asks why we should trust John McCain
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRnMZSPNmUY
 
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Based on Sean Hannity's question about marital infidelity, he must have been talking about John McCain. Right Sean?
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 12:20 PM
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1. ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY!!!!!!!
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abbeyco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 12:21 PM
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2. This should go viral!
This is the best take on anything anyone has said about McRove's infidelity - and Hannity's a dope if he somehow doesn't think his words could come back to haunt & be used against him.

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 12:30 PM
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4. I hope so! n/t
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 12:29 PM
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3. You know I love the framing on this issue...
Edited on Wed Aug-13-08 12:31 PM by ihavenobias
We need to keep pounding the question,

That article has over 126,000 views on HuffPo alone, not to mention how many views it's gotten on Alternet, DailyKos and other places.

Hopefully this video will explode too! If people are going to question Edwards, make them also question McCain. My only concern is that the robot voice will distract people or put them off.

;)

PS---Happy to be the first rec.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 02:36 PM
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11. You absolutely read my mind. Be careful of throwing stones...etc. I wish this were a tv ad.
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Capt. America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 12:46 PM
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5. needs a human voice, not a computer
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 12:57 PM
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7. That was my only issue, why go with a computer voice? It's potentially distracting n/t
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 01:24 PM
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8. Maybe I'll do a VO later...
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ExPatLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 12:50 PM
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6. Funny how Hannity lies immediately at the start of this vid...
"I'm just a regular guy..."
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 01:55 PM
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9. Except
for the millions I make spewing hate.
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vinylsolution Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 02:26 PM
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10. You'd think McCain's affair would be...
... a far bigger story.

"Republican candidate had affair with a WOMAN!"




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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 02:36 PM
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12. If we could only get that on the air!
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 02:37 PM
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13. There's a huge difference between McCain's behavior and that of John Edwards
John McCain was not satisfied in his first marriage, presumably no longer loved his first wife, met Cindy Hensley, fell in love, and divorced his first wife so he could marry Cindy. All this happened 2 years before John McCain first stood for election to the US Congress. If voters had a problem with his behavior then his opponent had a chance to bring it up back in 1982.

To condemn John McCain for his actions you really have to believe that EVERYONE should stay in their first marriage EVEN IF THEY ARE UNHAPPY. I don't think most people really believe that anymore in 2008.

John Edwards met Rielle Hunter at a bar or something like that. She approached him and literally begged him for the chance to do some (paid) work for him. Edwards believed that he could screw around with Rielle and still be considered as a serious candidate for President. Either he hoped Elizabeth would never find out or he expected her to forgive him - or at least get over it. He keeps telling everyone that he loves Elizabeth but that does not stop him from having secret middle-of-the-night meetings with Rielle.

John Edwards behavior was both SELFISH and STUPID.

But technically you are right they were both unfaithful/
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 02:41 PM
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14. You've got to be kidding?
eom
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 02:42 PM
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15. But the point that the video, Hannity, and many here are missing is
Is infidelity even an issue for a president or presidential candidate? Regardless of the reason for an affair. Should it even matter?
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 03:26 PM
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19. The issue of "should it matter"
was .

Check it out.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 03:16 PM
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16. Actually...
McCain had his marriage license with Cindy before he was divorced from his first wife.

But yes, Edwards was pretty stupid to do what he did...
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 03:24 PM
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18. It's not about staying in the first marriage
Personally, I'd prefer that we not get into private lives at all unless a law is broken or there is serious hypocrisy involved.

But if they're going after Edwards, McCain is more than fair game. His first wife raised his kids while he was a POW, and she got into a horrible car accident. After serious surgery, she actually lost inches from her height, and McCain was no longer attracted to her.

So he went after a blond beauty that was 18 years younger and had a wealthy family.

Again, none of this is my business, but if we get to hear about Edwards all day (who's not even a nominee) it's only fair that we hear about McCain.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:03 PM
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20. The idea that we can use this against McCain is nuts
John McCain married Carol Shepp in the summer of 1965. She already had 2 kids (from her first marriage to Alasdair Swanson) and then had a third with McCain.

John McCain went to Vietnam in the summer of 1967, where he escaped from a burning jet and then was held as a POW for 5 and 1/2 years.

The idea that we are gonna use the breakdown of his first marriage as an election issue almost 30 years after the fact is just NUTS!
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:38 PM
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21. Of course it's nuts when you choose to frame it so poorly
If what I've seen firsthand is any indication, there are a LOT of people who cringe when they hear the story of what happened with McCain's first marriage.

Again, keep this in context. Republicans are for "family values" and telling people who they can and can't marry and so on. Millions of Americans vote for these people precisely for these reasons, so what's wrong with letting them know the score? Even if *we* don't think it's relevant, there are millions of people who DO think it is.

Furthermore you've got the right wing and MSM all over Edwards who isn't even a nominee. How is this not the perfect opportunity to bring McCain into the picture? You act as if we're advocating going after his Vietnam service or something.

Christ, they go after Obama for the stupidest non-issue bullshit and guilt by association nonsense (see William Ayers). This is FAR more reasonable, and I for one don't want a 2004 repeat.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:46 PM
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22. Whatever works, I guess ...
I mean, if people think the Edwards Affair is relevant to the 2008 election, then why not tell them all about how John McCain was unfaithful to his first wife back in the 1970s before he was a politician.

But people here on DU believe all kinds of crazy and impossible stuff - like McCain marrying Cindy Hensley while he was still married to Carol! :o
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:50 PM
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23. It's relevant to those who think an affair is a failure and indication of character
A LOT of people think that an affair means a person can't be trusted. Hannity argued that very point on Fox, which means it's likely to be a common talking point on the right (and not just the right).

So *in that context* should we put an expiration date on such things (maybe we should, but the MSM isn't consistent)? Again, Elizabeth was dealing with cancer so some say it's worse, but does McCain's wife's disfiguring car accident rank that much lower?

I'm a broken record here, but the point is that these issues DO matter to a lot of people, even if we personally agree it's none of our damn business.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 03:19 PM
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17. Another version with different voiceover
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGITQrpxQ0E

I like this voice better...

:rofl:

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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:25 PM
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24. No, the issue of an affair should not matter because it's a personal matter, BUT the issue is now
being used against Edwards by the SANCTIMONIOUS REICH WING MEDIA, so I agree wholeheartedly that we should use ads like this against McAnus.

This ad, however, is not polished. Give the basics to the pros and let them work in more details and add more drama. Run it in right-wing markets every hour on the hour. Give them a dose of their own medicine as well as an education about their candidate.

The Truth is The Light.


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stark6935 Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 06:29 PM
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25. Fox news hit this one out of the park.
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