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Dammit Ann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:03 PM
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Fascinating circa 1980 Presser Reagan/Bush VP choice. Must Watch.
 
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:16 PM
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1. Holy crap, I had forgotten all that Ford
drama... of course we were all sure Carter was going to get re-elected... little did we know the game was in play
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:35 PM
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2. kick
so i can watch later
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neomonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:41 PM
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3. Fixodent flashback aside, that WAS very fascinating!
Raygun had big plans for Ford, didn't he? Can't imagine Sarah being entrusted with a fraction of that.
Ended up with Shrub Sr foisted on him...I wonder about the slimy machinations going on there.

The evil that men do.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:51 PM
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4. well, it got him shot a year or so later
didn't it?
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:37 PM
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6. Yeah, shot by the son of a Bush family friend, John Hinckley Sr was a pal and an oil tycoon. n/t
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:25 PM
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16. If you believe
that Hinckley shot Reagan. He may have shot at him -- just at Sirhan shot at RFK. But there seems to be a lot of evidence that the shot that hit Reagan, like the shots that hit RFK, came from elsewhere.

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Dammit Ann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:29 AM
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9. HMMMM? As in, things that that make you go...
WTF! And now, I'm surprised at the machinations? Why should I be?


At least back then they explained , in detail no less, how precisely you would be fucked.
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rolfboy Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 06:11 AM
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10. Two things that amazed me by this flashback...
1) as you say, the rea l journalism that was being done then,...by real journalists (not Canadian VJ's, beauty queens, etc).

2) that the Raygun/Ford plan, essentially gave birth to the Chimp/Vader plan 20 years later. I guess, in hindsight, Ford realized the real (read: power) damage that Nixon had done to the executive branch, and he was already planning how to reinstate that power exponetially. Apparantly, Shrub Sr. took copious notes, and when the time was right, was able to lay the groundwork that his granddad (ol' Prescott Bush) started during WW2. Scary shit, to look at history. Scarier shit to think of Mooselini being a heartbeat away.

I don't post often, this just seemed a real important bit of research that has been dug up.

thanks, and if i could K&R, i would
peace
Robert
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:58 PM
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5. so that is how we got the BFEE instead of a more normal presidency
Wish jimmy carter had stayed in there and we have gone to being self supporting environmentally - another nobel prize winner like Al Gore that the right makes fun of
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drmeow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:35 AM
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7. What was most interesting to me
was the contrast between the current news coverage and the coverage back then.
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Dammit Ann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:15 AM
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8. me too, exactly.
It struck me more than anything else.
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NM Independent Donating Member (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 06:24 AM
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11. My thoughts as well...
I miss real journalism. I miss it sooooo much, and at 30, I'm barely old enough to remember it.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:11 PM
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13. real journalism?
no, that was ABC... at the time lightweights and proto-whores

still better than the crap we have now

notice that Frank Reyonlds refers to GHWB as a "moderate" at least 3 times... he might have even been trying himself that someone actually wrote that and he had to read it.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:40 PM
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18. Compared to Reagan, he was moderate
Reagan the moderate, Bush the northeast liberal Republican (conservative on economic issues, liberal on social issues).

It was quite a different world back then.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:21 PM
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21. Bush 1980 was not moderate
he just had good old Karl Rove to tell everyone he was... that is, until he fired KKKarl for flapping BFEE secrets to the Washington Post.
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Mugsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:42 AM
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12. "Reagan/Ford felt the job was now too big for one man."
Probably the most significant quote of the video.

Around the 7:20 mark, Barbara Walters reports that "Both Reagan and Ford felt that the job of President was now too big for just one man." And this was in 1980.

Connect that to today. Palin, a "co-President" sharing half the duties? Because if Reagan & Ford were right, that's what we must assume.

We've certainly seen from Gore & Cheney how much power the VP wields today.

I'm not crazy about the fact this video... applied to today... casts McCain in the "Reagan" role, but the point about how the VP's job... the one Palin isn't sure what the duties are... is far more significant than most voters realize.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 02:08 PM
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14. It's not, if you just do the job
but if you are planning a conservative revolution, running illegal wars and arms deals, bankrupting the treasury and destroying the middle class all from the comfort of the white house basement, it is
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cabbage08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:21 PM
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15. K&R
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:36 PM
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17. Anyone remember the Reagan-Laxalt-Ford "co-presidency"
It blew me away at the time.

How in the world did these f*ckers pull this off? (I know, October Surprise).
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:59 PM
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19. Poppy Bush and Ronnie were enemies. And even as
far back as 1980, they referred to the president as Chief Executive Officer. I agree. Poppy Bush has the blood of many on his hands and it doesn't seem to phase him. What's killing another president? F***ing sociopaths. Psychos. Greedheads. PNAC'ers. Head Hurts.:evilgrin:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 06:09 PM
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20. wow. such journalism!
I couldn't even hear the sounds of gentle fellating!
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:23 PM
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22. No kidding. That is why this clip, IMHO
is very important... it shows the birth of the terrible state of affairs in which we find AmeriKKKa now
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p4poetic Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:51 AM
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23. wow
This certainly takes me back.
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