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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:42 PM
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NBC News: Pig Fracas is 'Beyond Stupid'
 
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:44 PM
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1. Comming from the Traditional media
this backfired on McCain
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old guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:53 PM
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4. True,
but it did postpone real debate for another day. One less day for McCain/Palin to screw up which, IMO, is what it was intended to do. The real test will be if the media begins to report all of the repub foolishness.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:11 PM
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11. I think it postponed it for McLame, that's for certain
I don't think it postponed the debate for Obama in any serious measure. He's not the one who made a day of it: the media pushed this at McLame's insistence---and McLame went as far as saying that Obama not agreeing to do town hall meetings with him is the reason why he's the one allowing this stupidity to even have its head.

This can neatly be laid at McLame's feet.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 10:00 PM
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27. Obama is talking about issues.
Well, Obama's TRYING to discuss the issues. McCain can't because the GOP has no idea what to do but "stay the course"...which is a disaster. If the campaign is about issues, and not who can gut a moose, McCain loses.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:12 PM
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14. Richard Wolf had the best line.
He said that the McCain campaign had "jumped the pig."
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:35 AM
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34. Yup
Maybe they won't try pulling this crap again.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:49 PM
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2. The only problem is the generic "state of the debate" label
This isn't an even "they both are doing it" issue. It's the McCain campaign. From his celebrity ads to his making up that Obama didn't visit the troops because of cameras, or creating perceived slights about his time as a POW. McCain has done anything but focus on having a decent debate on the issues. To be fair, he can't do that and win, but it's not Obama it's about 99 percent McCain.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:52 PM
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3. Yeah. I was yelling back at the computer screen. Mr. Williams, the McCain/Rove campaign did it.
NOT the Obama campaign.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:18 PM
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18. YEP !!!
CROTCH SUCKER ...

The way the media does it, McCain is going on three months now, starting with the freakin "Paris Hilton" ad, of just throwing whatever crape they make up on any given day at BO. BO is TRYING to stick to campaigning and SURE as heck is NOT engaging this retarded nonsense, and this jackoff freakin puts responsibility on BOTH of them.

ARSEHOLE, JERKOFF, MFER ...

This is how they do it.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:17 AM
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32. Agreed, it's McCain doing this not Obama because it's all he has.Can't talk issues.
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Faith No More Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:54 PM
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5. I hope this
gets crammed back up your wrinkled, old ass sideways McCain. Having a sugar mama to take care of you and being a bitch to that lipsticked tramp from Alaska. What a waste of a human life you are McCain.:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:56 PM
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6. Well Brian Williams you stupid shit what the f--- are you
talking about? The issues nooooo! "lipstick on a pig"
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:08 PM
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9. psst, it'd an editorial and one that needed to be said
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:16 PM
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17. And the subject was criticising the MSM for
talking about BS like that instead of the issues and what's he talk about lipstick on a pig. Why didn't he do an editorial on the issues?
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:18 PM
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19. Because it was an editorial on the press, not the issues.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:22 PM
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20. So it's the pot calling the kettle black n/t
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:33 PM
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22. I don't think you realize he's coming down on his colleagues publicly
To get them to stop the stupidity. It's a sacrifice he's made to try to get them to stop.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:58 PM
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7. The upside is this successful "pushback" by the media may embolden them to do more of it.
I detect more calling of BS than in the last two elections. Not a whole lot more, but some.

The media is still far to ready to jump on these BS stories and start reporting the "conflict" as the news.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:10 PM
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10. I don't even get what US reporters are smokin
Reporting on that is serious bushleague shit. When we get a release from a political party that makes reference to such things, we say "Into the trash!" And toss it. We won't even waste time on it. BEcause it turns into a stupid shouting match and that's not our purpose.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:58 PM
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8. Good, and rec'd. ABC was equally annoyed; I wonder what CBS said? nt
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:11 PM
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12. CBS debunked it, too.
They showed lots and lots of footage of Obama, both when he made the original statement and what he said about it afterward at today's speech on education. Which, by the way, was the real policy issue the media might have taken up, if not for this distraction. But if anyone watched CBS tonight, they'd have no excuse for still believing that Obama smeared anyone in any way.

CBS also debunked the internet ad accusing Obama of wanting to teach "sex ed" to kindergarteners.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:16 PM
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16. Great, thanks! nt
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:25 PM
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21. I watched CBS... I was very upset for the first few minutes as they implied that
the campaigns had went into mudslinging mode :mad: then, Couric's annoying-ness was only made up for when they did a 'fact check' on the commercial about sex ed, and the pig comment - both were shown as non-factual by their reporter.
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The_Falling_Giant Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:40 PM
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24. The media still pisses me off tho 
It still bothers me that it took Obama to drive the point home
that the media is part of the problem by jumping on these
storys when you know its  fabricated to divert from
issues.Then when the media reports on it they almost throw
obama in the mess like he is going back and forth with mccain
not talking about issues.Its like if Mccain does something
idiotic like he is always doing and calling it strategy, they
lump Barrack in it as part of the problem.I swear if obama
didnt set the tone he did in his speech today the reporting on
this matter whould have been hella different.This nation i
swear.....
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:08 AM
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31. I know, it's so frustrating and I share your disgust. One r in Barack, btw. welcome to DU! :)
:hi:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:38 AM
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35. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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savistocate Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:02 AM
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36. Only meant to help--correction "had GONE" drilled so fiercely myself in grade school
and continueing w/ English-subject study.

Any apology should come from Couric and the like plus McCain camp
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:11 PM
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13. Glad to see this on broadcast.
Keith and Tweety can rant all they want, but the Republican base isn't going to see it.

Not to disparage Keith and Tweety-- they were both masterful tonight. Just saying that Joe and Jane Sixpack aren't watching their shows.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:13 PM
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15. OMG From McPOW to McPIG in one week...who woulda thought...?
:o)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:36 PM
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23. Well...
:spray: That cracked me up!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:52 PM
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26. Mr & Mrs McJOKE keeps us laffing while the issues are ignored....Its a PLAN
to keep things that really matter off the Front page....instead we get pg 67 gossip...
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 10:24 PM
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28. Rove is still behind the scenes. n/t
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 11:33 PM
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30. The Master of DECEIT...he should be red with lipstick too
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:43 PM
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25. You know it's bad when Brian Triumph-of-the-Williams can't
gin up some faux outrage on McSame's behalf.
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holboz Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 11:13 PM
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29. Did anyone see BBC America news tonight?
I couldn't help but giggle about the "lipstick frivolity" discussion between Matt Frei and Katty Kay. They made no effort to hide their feelings that this is far beyond absurd, even for American politics.

Brilliant - hope to find a video clip.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:44 AM
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33. Not to go back in time but.....
When the primaries were in full force they did the same thing to Obama and lumped him in with Hillary the same way.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:13 AM
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37. McCain is treating women like they are stupid in order to get their votes. nt
There's a word for this.

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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:31 AM
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38. kick
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