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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 12:27 PM
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Bill Clinton on The View
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 01:03 PM by Wetzelbill
 
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Posted on DU: September 22, 2008
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I will add the other parts as they come up. -WB

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIiLJIk32_0

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U08fA93lpEk
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 12:51 PM
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1. OK - watched this part. what the hell is the fuss about?
I saw nothing that dissed Obama or our party
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 01:09 PM
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4. Bill Clinton was being himself. He did nothing wrong as far as I can see.
There are quite a few people here who look for reasons to hate the Clintons.
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cosmicsheep Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:29 PM
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13. How about that he lied, again, on national TV?
Hillary did NOT win the popular vote, Obama did.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

And his little aside that "if he had asked her, she would have served" is certainly talking out of school. Just his cutting little way of saying that Obama never even asked her, as he so obviously should have.

Slick Willie INDEED.

Over him, big time
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Cosmic Charlie Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 12:52 PM
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2. sour grapes make shitty wine, Bill
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 01:09 PM
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3. I didn't see any spoiled grapes here
He was honest, and I think this discussion will help many move forward towards electing Obama. I hope more Hillary supporters watch the video because I suspect he spoke the truth about her in this instance.
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IndependentDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 01:21 PM
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5. can you tell me what part you are talking about when you say...
"this discussion will help many move forward towards electing Obama"

Thanks.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 01:54 PM
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6. I watched all three parts and President Clinton will always be the Big Dog
...in my eyes.

As for his prediction that Obama will win, I hope he is correct.

As for him saying that both men are qualified to be president and that they are both good men, I suppose Clinton is in an excellent position to know, but I sure don't believe that about McCain!

Clinton did very well over the 25 minutes with these five women from the View
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 01:59 PM
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8. hell yeah
It does no good for Bill Clinton to disparage Republicans, he's a former president and he's above that. Look at all the bad things said about Jimmy Carter or how Republicans sought to make Bill Clinton's life miserable, those guys have let that stuff go. While Republicans are petty about Carter and Clinton, they aren't in return, and it makes them look better for it. Clinton always says good things about people and I think part of the reason too is he relies on people on both sides of the aisle for his global initiative.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:43 PM
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15. Nicely put. nt
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:11 PM
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10. I mostly agree
but, dammit, he's trying to please too many people at the same time, like he came from the old school of politicians. I think he's still shell-shocked from the over-the-top harsh treatment he got from the 'thugs during his 8 years.

There is no way that McSame is "qualified" to be the president, for too many reasons to list in this post, & I think there's room to question why Clinton predicted McSame to be the 'thug nominee a year ago -- "because he was the only one who could win": I think it's possible that the reason McSame "was the only one who could win" the 'thug nomination is because of some deal made with the boy king. There's just no other explanation for this:

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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 01:57 PM
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7. Is this what's causing all the hub-bub?
I only watched the first 10 minutes and didn't see anything objectionable in his responses at all. Seemed like vintage Bill - smart, thoughtful, etc. I do want to smack that psychiatrist in DC he referred who's voting for McCain because of Palin... but that is another thread. :)

Just briefly looked at DU at lunch and everyone's gone off on Clinton for some reason.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:14 PM
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11. Same here about the feminist psychiatrist in DC...
I just couldn't buy that story. If she's a feminist, that's all the more reason to reject Palin!
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 05:40 PM
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26. I could buy it...
I know a few psychiatrists. :P But seriously, as Clinton was explaining, once you get past the economic interests, some people have other "issues" that cause them to vote.

My personal theory about people voting republican - is that is all about them and no one else. They don't care if other people will suffer from McCain's plans. As long as it feathers their nest or serves their personal purpose, it's fine. And I would link people voting on gender solely as an issue - they are assholes who aren't thinking about the SCOTUS, Roe v Wade, Fair Wage, etc.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 06:43 PM
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27. Exactly. And, frankly, I could see where a self-centered billionaire
would have no issues other than "gender" on which to base their vote. Geez'm. Thank goodness she's in the 1% category of Americans.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:19 PM
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29. Yes!
Haha. 1%ers won't win this for McCain for which I am very grateful.
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rainlillie Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:02 PM
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9. What a huge disappointment....
Bill made a statement that left steam coming out of my ears. He basically said that it's not irrational to vote base on gender alone. I totally disagree. He also said voting is complicated, I disagree with that too. All you have to do is vote for the person who will help implement programs and such to benefit you and your family.

As a woman who is pro-choice, there's no way in hell I would vote for McCain/ Palin. As a person who believes in diplomacy there's no way I would vote for McCain/ Palin. He also repeated the infamous line that McCain is "ready to be president," based on what? His support of GWB's policies? McCain has been wrong about the war, wrong about Afghanistan and Pakistan...and doesn't know crap about the economy. Obama needs all real Democrats to get on board and fight for him, not this middle of the road they're both good guys $hit!
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:18 PM
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12. Welcome to DU, rainlillie!
:hi:

Nice post.
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rainlillie Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 03:54 PM
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23. Thanks for the welcome!
Bill needs to keep his mouth shut and go on about his business, if he isn't going to support Obama wholeheartedly. Do you think if former President Bush was on, he would be singing the praises of Obama? I doubt it. One thing about the republicans they're wrong on all the issues , but they stick together.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 06:49 PM
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28. Considering the strength he has in the Democratic Party, he does need to
either keep his mouth shut or support Obama to the hilt. I'm tired of this one-sided nicey-nice, can't we just all get along ridiculousness. It hasn't been effective since the Neocons hijacked the government.
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 03:27 PM
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21. I think a bit deeper than that in regards to voting
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 03:29 PM by dbmk
I prefer to believe that a lot of people vote for more than what benefits them and their family.
That being a major part of the difference between right and left on the political spectrum.

And for a lot of people weighing public issues against personal needs might be complicated.
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jamesatemple Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 05:34 PM
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25. I wasn't disappointed...
...because I was interested in hearing what the man said without regard to whether it was or wasn't in line with my personal-held convictions. You must have seen something that I didn't if it drove you, figuratively, to point of "steam coming out of my ears".

We certainly heard him differently if you understood him to say "it's not irrational to vote base(d)(up)on gender alone". I heard him say that folks support a candidate for a variety of reasons, some of which might cause them to vote against their own interests. He added that we shouldn't call them "crazy" (even if it appears that their actions are crazy).

The physical process of voting isn't complicated (unless you live in Florida or Ohio). But, for the voters who take the time (and have the intestinal fortitudes) to look at the qualifications of candidates, including their histories, voting records, and achievements while trying to chase down rumors, innuendoes, and outright lies about the candidates, it is a complicated and daunting task. Other voters can cast a supporting vote because they would like to have a beer with the candidate; some for the candidate's stand on issues; and many don't vote at all, making the claim, "They're all alike!"

"All you have to do is vote for the person who will help implement programs and such to benefit you and your family."

Heh, heh! Sounds easy, doesn't it? For the life of me, I can't imagine why anyone would vote for McCain or any other Republican. Yet, this past Saturday, one of my good Republican friends said, "Jim, you and I have lived nearly all of our alloted years up. I don't think that whichever candidate gets elected will matter to either of us very much or for very much longer. But, it's our grandkids that I worry about. That's why I'm votin' for McCain." I was flabbergasted...tempted to launch into an hour or two oration on the reasons that a vote for McCain was the worst thing he could do for his grandchildren...and mine! But, I didn't. I nearly lost him as a friend over his support for Bush, tryin' to make him see things my way.

The whole point is, rainlillie, that each of us sees things differently, just the way we saw this video differently; just the way that the voters in this country see the candidates differently; just the way that Bill Clinton sees the qualifications of the candidates differently than you and I do (and, I suspect, from a much better vantage point than you and I have). But, the bottom line is that Bill, Hillary and Chelsea are voting for Barack Obama, as we are. If he's not against us, he's for us.

Oh, welcome to DU! I hope that we'll have many pleasant visits here.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:41 PM
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14. The women on "The View" scare the hell outta me- the women in the audience went apeshit for Bubba.nt
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:45 PM
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16. lol
The guy is magnetic. :)
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:57 PM
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17. "What I do now" 4:10, "I sell medicine in sixty-nine countries"...
...Clinton moved on, we should too.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 03:12 PM
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18. Awkward questions. I don't think Bill will be excluded in an Obama adminstration as Obama mentioned>
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 03:13 PM by barack the house
in one debate. The prmaries are old news now it's time to move as a unit, Bill seems to of moved on now too which is good.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 03:14 PM
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19. Hopefully folks will vote based on issues as the issues are so big right now.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 03:19 PM
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20. Glad Clinton highlighted how good things were under Democrats in the 90s it can all return with the>
right reseult.
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Zombie2 Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 03:31 PM
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22. McSame is "qualified" to be prez......
....PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT!! Why in the hell would Bill say something like that? The only thing he mentioned is something about nobody else being able to match McSames POW experience.

McSame wasn't even qualified to be a guest on The View... his interVIEW sucked.

Bill skipped over saying anything about Palin... probably a wise move on his part.
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Limelight Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 04:20 PM
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24. I'm sick of both Clintons...
Still pushing that bullsh*t "she won the popular vote" garbage which she didn't. Always this trash like she did Obama some kind of favor by dropping out. YOU LOST FAIR AND SQUARE.

Quitcher bitchin'...:nopity:
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