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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 10:47 PM
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Testimony | Darfur
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frt2UurE7Cw
 
Posted on YouTube: December 20, 2006
By YouTube Member: savedarfurcoalition
Views on YouTube: 16106
 
Posted on DU: April 02, 2007
By DU Member: Sapphire Blue
Views on DU: 837
 
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 11:19 PM
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1. K&R
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 11:35 PM
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2. k&r'd...
this will be a lonely thread in that there is not enough interest here at DU unless you prefice it with a "KO", or "New Rules", then it will play for days,

but i hear you, as this is big stuff: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2247910
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 12:34 AM
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3. I used to wonder how the world could have let the Holocaust happen.
I don't wonder anymore.

The Perils of Indifference
Elie Wiesel

(excerpt)

In a way, to be indifferent to that suffering is what makes the human being inhuman. Indifference, after all, is more dangerous than anger and hatred. Anger can at times be creative. One writes a great poem, a great symphony, one does something special for the sake of humanity because one is angry at the injustice that one witnesses. But indifference is never creative. Even hatred at times may elicit a response. You fight it. You denounce it. You disarm it. Indifference elicits no response. Indifference is not a response.

Indifference is not a beginning, it is an end. And, therefore, indifference is always the friend of the enemy, for it benefits the aggressor -- never his victim, whose pain is magnified when he or she feels forgotten. The political prisoner in his cell, the hungry children, the homeless refugees -- not to respond to their plight, not to relieve their solitude by offering them a spark of hope is to exile them from human memory. And in denying their humanity we betray our own.

Indifference, then, is not only a sin, it is a punishment. And this is one of the most important lessons of this outgoing century's wide-ranging experiments in good and evil.

In the place that I come from, society was composed of three simple categories: the killers, the victims, and the bystanders. During the darkest of times, inside the ghettoes and death camps -- and I'm glad that Mrs. Clinton mentioned that we are now commemorating that event, that period, that we are now in the Days of Remembrance -- but then, we felt abandoned, forgotten. All of us did.

And our only miserable consolation was that we believed that Auschwitz and Treblinka were closely guarded secrets; that the leaders of the free world did not know what was going on behind those black gates and barbed wire; that they had no knowledge of the war against the Jews that Hitler's armies and their accomplices waged as part of the war against the Allies.

If they knew, we thought, surely those leaders would have moved heaven and earth to intervene. They would have spoken out with great outrage and conviction. They would have bombed the railways leading to Birkenau, just the railways, just once.

The full speech (text & audio) is available @ http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/wiesel.htm



Darfur. 2007. We know


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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:46 AM
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4. me neither, Hon, when i mention apathy around here i receive a chorus of...
"But we here at DU care about everything, we're not apathetic!! Why I have a bumper sticker on my car."

i don't know what the answer is, i guess, cause i don't even have a bumper sticker on my car. but it is amazingly/shockingly easy to track sensibilities here in the vid forum by watching the views to certain vids versus others,

this is a salacious world, and too often we are merely voyeuristic spectators living vicariously...pity
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 03:06 PM
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5. I see your point. :(
Last night I watched Hotel Rwanda for the first time. Back in 1994 I was peripherally aware of something bad going down in Rwanda, but it never fully entered my consciousness until last night. Interestingly, Darfur also fully entered my consciousness at the same time. I still don't know the specifics surrounding what has gone on there, but at least my heart cares more than it did this time yesterday.

Apparently the events in Somalia led to our neglecting Rwanda. There were, of course, many other reasons, but I think that was a biggie. After Somalia I felt that the United States should mind its own business and stay out of the affairs of other countries as much as possible. I still feel that way to some extent. Every time we intervene it seems to cause a huge fuck-up. Our military actions since WWII have not ended positively.

So with Iraq in mind I have mentally ignored Darfur. The US is scarcely in a position to lead a moral charge to save the day, although that may be precisely what we should do. I don't know anymore. I'm confused. It seems like every time the US uses military might, we screw things up even worse than they were before.

So, what should be done for Darfur?
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 03:30 PM
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6. For more info & if you want to do something, here are two places to start...
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 05:43 PM
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7. Thanks. It looks like I need to study up on Darfur.
I wish our species could learn not to be murdering, genocidal assholes.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 08:17 PM
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9. Oil Prospects: Scramble for Oil in Darfur
AlJazeera - Oil Prospects: Scramble for Oil in Darfur

It's not often you see a news report covering the real reasons for the conflict in Darfur, Sudan. Chinese and American oil companies are scrambling to extract this region's rich oil reserves

Scroll down this page at The Dossier to find link to video: http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video_cover-ups.htm

I feel really stupid for not having thought before about WHY Darfur is in such turmoil...
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 08:18 PM
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10. Oil Prospects: Scramble for Oil in Darfur
AlJazeera - Oil Prospects: Scramble for Oil in Darfur

It's not often you see a news report covering the real reasons for the conflict in Darfur, Sudan. Chinese and American oil companies are scrambling to extract this region's rich oil reserves.

Scroll down this page to find video: http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video_cover-ups.htm

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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 08:17 PM
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8. Oil Prospects: Scramble for Oil in Darfur
AlJazeera - Oil Prospects: Scramble for Oil in Darfur

It's not often you see a news report covering the real reasons for the conflict in Darfur, Sudan. Chinese and American oil companies are scrambling to extract this region's rich oil reserves

Scroll down this page at The Dossier to find link to video: http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video_cover-ups.htm

I feel really stupid for not having thought before about WHY Darfur is in such turmoil...

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