Cenk interviews Howard Dean.

Run time: 17:27 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUWKtJ6epCM   Posted on YouTube: November 25, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: November 26, 2008 By DU Member: madfloridian Views on DU: 3120

 
Cenk says to him you were right on Iraq, you were right on internet fundraising, you were right on the 50 state strategy....so how in the world do you expect to get another job in WA? Funny.

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Pelosi and Reid have been on (in addition to Maddow and Michael Moore), so why not Dean? He's always a great guest!

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I love Dean, so I'm looking forward to this. :)

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ihavenobias for letting me know.

I want Dean to be in OUR admin so badly:bounce:

That was awesome! So good to hear Dean's voice and opinions..and he fully supports Obama.

Calls Obama the 50 State guy:)

Who knew? They'll say ANYTHING ~ true or not true ~ just to get the population to 'go along' (i.e., "we're in Afghanistan for the WOMEN! Yeah, that's it! We're there for the WOMEN). As much as I have liked Howard Dean in the past and generally respected his opionion, Dean is a 'politician' alright. Yeah, sure we've sent our troops to live (and some) die there and spent BILLIONS of dollars FOR THE WOMEN of Afghanistan....Sure, I believe that - NOT! :eyes:

I'm glad that Cenk was pretty much silent through that whole part at least.

edit to add: no rec here (and I regret the kick that this post gives).

As in married people.

Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant.

http://www.nj.com/us-politics/index.ssf/2008/11/obama_avoids_samesex_marriage.html

"Once Proposition 8 got on the ballot in June, LGBT activists met and brainstormed to oppose it, but no one stepped up to lead the effort. Precious weeks, if not months, were wasted, say some activists. Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean reportedly offered to go on a media/fundraising tour but never heard back from organizers.

In August, the DNC donated $25,000—one-quarter of what Spielberg and Pitt each forked over. Officials with "No on 8"—an anti-Prop 8 group—reportedly asked the DNC for a half-million more but were told all funds, including a fresh $10 million line of credit, were being earmarked for close House and Senate races. The state Democratic Party is also getting its share of criticism, even after it says it kicked in $150,000 to the "No on 8" coffers.

As poll numbers narrow, tempers are flaring and finger-pointing continues in the gay and lesbian community. Veteran LGBT activist Lorri Jean told Politico how the DNC and Obama's California fundraisers haven't been as active as she might like. But others, such as liberal activist Rick Jacobs, founder of the Courage Campaign progressive network, insists Obama's team has indeed been helpful, frequently passing along donor suggestions and other back-channel strategizing."

however, he did come back to the reason the U.S. was initially in Afghanistan was because the taliban harbored the 9/11 terrorists. He then went on to say that since we had to, or rather DID, go there for that, then we should not leave there with the travesty of that highly mysogenistic society.

And if he is correct about the correlation of equality in society to less war mongering (we are obviously the exception to this principle), then it might be worth the billions if we somehow prevent future billions and lives lost by cleaning up the country. That being said, I don't accept the correlation he presents at face value.

In 2005 he was saying the same words on CNN and other interviews. That should not surprise you. He was right though about Iraq. He said women were better off there under Saddam Hussein.

I always love listening to Dr. Dean.

I really liked the way Cenk made him squirm, tho. "Boy, this is a
tough radio show." The Doctor had the answers, but they were really
tough questions.

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found a place for Rahm Emanuel, of all people, but they are not finding a place for Howard Dean, speaks VOLUMES about this administration already. How very very sad.

. . .the volumes spoken INCLUDE this gem of a thought I've been having now that Team Obama is really DLC-in-disguise. . .like Lucy-in-disguise with diamonds. . .bwhahahaha:

Way before the 2008 race. . .way back in the 2004 Democratic convention, Obama was methodically introduced to the American public with his keynote address.. .and the theater hasn't stopped since. . .including the primary's high drama between Hillary and Barack. . .somehow I feel they were all in on this masterpiece theater to use Obama's historic persona to secure the DLC's recapture of the government.

Once again the liberal values I was hoping an Obama administration would embrace have to wait. . .indefinitely. . .we liberals are still persona non grata. . .ya know. . .the ones ya have to speak to at Thanksgiving dinner but never acknowledge the rest of the year.

Liberals are a permanent minority because the fat cats with all the money and power can easily ignore us. No bone (or Obama pie) for Howard Dean or Wes Clark or Samantha Power. . .tooooo liberal please!

And include this place. . .watch how all the snarky anonymous assholes start posting how I'm a waaa-waaa self-pitying liberal progressive.. whatever damn name we're called these days. . .swat those damn liberal idealist gadflies from the 60s.

Now the buzz word is PRAGMATIST. . .and still real liberal anything just won't sell in their neo-liberal minds.

This country could have started thriving as a democratic LIBERAL socialist society back in 1933 when the capitalist system collapsed . . .could have had single-payer medical insurance along with Social Security . . .BUT the merchants of death and big business were lucky that WW II kept them in power . .and they haven't lost their grip since. . .through one fake-war after another.

Wow. . .glad I got that off my chest! Now I can go eat some turkey and burrow away in my little liberal memory hole. . .ahhhh yes, those 60s when the damn liberals stopped the war and Nixon.

Hey, Le Taz Hot. . .thanks for igniting my nostalgic rant.

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How uncharacteristic of me. :evilgrin:

I held no great hopes for a progressive Obama -- he just doesn't have the history and I listened VERY closely to him throughout the election. What I didn't expect was Rahm Emanuel, Hillary Clinton, his new economic advisory team (as one columnist put it, these guys still have the bird feathers in their mouths) and GATES for goddess sake!

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm in need of my "breakfast roll" right about now.

LTH, just another "damn liberal idealist gadfly for the 60's."

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what we most need to do. Barack isn't really in a position to really judge him too much till January, but sure congress and governors do need to answer questions They're not really tough they're fair questions from the boss, the people.

Let's get rid of NCLB, which does not work,
also.

K&R

(unlike she who will remain nameless) would qualify him for almost anything inside or outside an Obama administration. He's a team player, but very, very principaled. And common sense doesn't hurt, either.

I think he is still leaving the door for Obama to ask him to do SOMEthing.
That is probably why he says he doesn't know yet. He doesn't. If Obama and
Rahm close the door on him completely, it'll be the country's loss. Obama is
certainly smart enough to realize that, and the only reason I can think of
for him to shut Howard out completely would be Rahm's bad feelings toward
Howard. However, if petty old grudges are more important to Rahm than the
talent Howard would bring to a cabinet position, then Rahm wasn't the right
man for the job. If Howard is shut out, I REALLY hope there are better reasons
and we deserve to hear them (and be convinced by them).

First off, I agree that they appear to be shutting the door on him...not just for a position but for any acknowledgment of a job well done. I think it may partly go back to the primaries, the big Clinton donor fundraisers who attacked him and got donations back because he would not play ball with them.

Many of them carry great sway in the party with their huge fortunes. Also people here joked about the puma groups making it their goal to get him out of the party...but between them and the big fundraisers...well...they have big money, many of them. They have taken great joy in these events.

I got a chill when I heard Rahm was CoS. It was like a message sent which way we were going.

It is like they are shutting so many others out of any influence on the party. Time will tell, but something odd is going on.

Even with the need for some pragmatic competence on the economic front, Howard's
skills and credentials on the social side are certainly worthy of consideration,
and even if rewards for past services rendered are not a big factor in selecting
his cabinet and advisers, it is inconceivable to me that Obama would completely
shut Howard out, not matter what Rahm says. Obama is smart enough to know that he
if Howard had not been at the DNC for four years, he may well not have been president-
elect now. If he feels that Howard's efforts and hard work as DNC chairman have not
been sufficient enough to warrant bringing him into the administration in some
capacity, I'm sure he'll have his reasons, but if the main one is Rahm's grudge,
it's a bad reason. Maybe Howard will get some lucrative offer from the private sector,
but he practically stated flat out he is interested in further public service. If
Howard offers and Obama refuses, the country loses, and I don't think it's just a
few people on DU that realize that.

knows that the next important issue he could help are the schools. What the Good Doctor says should be hailed as the right perscription to the problem.

Honest, compassionate, intelligent and free of encumbrances, the last being the most important. He really doesn't care about the effects of his statements...that's how he feels.

What kind of analysis did Dean mention? Never heard of such a thing and can't google it without spelling.

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