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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 09:04 PM
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Iraq for Sale - - Banned Excerpts
 
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http://iraqforsale.org/ On May 10th, 2007, this video was banned in Congress

Robert Greenwald, the director of IRAQ FOR SALE, was invited to testify before Congress by Rep. Jim Moran. He prepared four minutes from the documentary to show.

Republicans insisted this not be shown.

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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 09:05 PM
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1. K&R
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 09:20 PM
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2. War is a Racket...we need to have the whole video of Iraq for Sale posted
<snip>
WAR IS A RACKET
by Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient:

Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC
About the Author


Chapter One

WAR IS A RACKET

WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.<MORE>

http://lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm
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mattomjoe Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 10:44 PM
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9. In other words....
the Iracket War
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:00 PM
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29. Smedley was the man. n/t
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:36 PM
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33. Your wish is the command
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 09:47 PM
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3. Wish I could recommend this more than once - K&R!!!
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 10:07 PM
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4. Here you go
My pleasure.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 10:10 PM
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5. Since when did the minority get to give orders about video clips
If they don't like it they can piss off out of the hearing room
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 01:30 AM
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13. How did republicans get away with it
I would really like to hear their arguments for refusing to allow this excerpt to be seen. How could they stifle it? Don't Dems hold the chair? What could possibly be their reasoning...that it might incriminate?
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:05 PM
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30. Complicity.
They profit. Corporate Oligarchy...not 2 party system.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 10:24 PM
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6. WHY
What was their reasoning for it not to be shown?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 10:25 PM
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7. This is JUST infuriating!!
Edited on Thu May-10-07 10:25 PM by proud2Blib
:grr:
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 01:34 AM
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15. And guess what
The government has known all this from the beginning and they encouraged it. Makes ya see why Iraq is really so screwed up
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piesRsquare Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 10:25 PM
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8. Holy Shit!
Burn pits?! Blowing up trucks?

Good God Almighty!
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:09 PM
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10. That's what I say! No wonder Halliburton moved to Dubai.
I'm ready to make war with the mo-fo's my own self!

:kick::kick::kick: & R
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:14 PM
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11. Can't Remember Who Did The Interview...
Might have been on the Sam Seder Show, but somebody returning from Iraq said that the burn pits were 18 football fields big!

:shrug:
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:19 PM
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12. "6 Times The Money"
just advance to 3:11 in the video and simply digest the sentiment the soldier expresses..

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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 01:32 AM
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14. K&R n/t
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 04:02 AM
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16. damn.
:(

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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 04:12 AM
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17. Simple case of transfer of funds
from taxpayers money to the corporations. Not surprise really that Dimson intends to veto caps on continued spending.x(
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rossmonster Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 04:41 AM
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18. Now back in wwii
Back world war 2 in britain, raqueteering or war profiteering was stomped on with both feet hard. You got caught doing it you went to jail. In the US i dont know, there was some pretty dubious stuff before 12/41 by the likes of standard oil but dont know how big business behave from then till 45.

For a government to let such obvious rubbish go on implies either:

- they are particpating in it (either directly or indirectly via company profits/shareholdings)

- they dont think "the war on terror" is partcularly serious so this isnt a real danger to military performance or security (as it was in WWII)

or both...

The other point is using foreign contractors rather than iraqi ones. If they had spent the money and time on putting iraqi's in jobs and getting them doing something rather than sitting at home with no job and no prospects with nothing to do but figure out how to ruin some GI's day or mug the local mullah from an opposite sect, then they wouldnt be in the crud they are in now. I clearly remember chinese, nepalese and other cheap asian labour being brought in to contract. No doubt they were getting stuff all but whoever was pimping them was making a fortune. Why werent they forced to use iraqis??????? In this case the likes of KBR may have actually physically accellerated the disaster in iraq, post invasion, due to their hiring practices.




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blondie58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 05:24 AM
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19. good point, Rossmonster
those jobs, if given to the Iraqi people, would have benefited the people of the coutry.

This is an outrage.

And how does the minority party call the shots?

Welcome to DU, Rossmonster!
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:33 AM
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24. Well...
>Back world war 2 in britain, raqueteering or war profiteering was stomped on with both feet hard. You got caught doing it you went to jail. In the US i dont know, there was some pretty dubious stuff before 12/41 by the likes of standard oil but dont know how big business behave from then till 45.

Prescott Bush was the managing director of Union Bank, which was charged with trading with the enemy in 1942. He got away clean, and even got a tidy profit (after the war).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100474,00.html

IBM sold punch card technology to the Nazis throughout the war, which allowed them to identify the Jews, and kept the trains to Auschwitz running on time.

http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/

Ford and GM had some connection to the Nazis, with their German subsidiaries arming Germany. Henry Ford funded Hitler in the 1920s, and continued after Pearl Harbor.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20000124/silverstein

Chase Manhattan, and Standard Oil as you say, the list goes on. Halliburton is not the first.

And welcome to DU. :hi:

Bill
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rossmonster Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:26 PM
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39. IBM and the Holocaust
I read this book back in 2001 and was stunned by it. It connected all the dots. Explained why tattoos on contentration camp victims were done. Why germans always went after the census cards when they conquered a country. Why when there wasnt a census they just shot people en masse.

A very interesting insightful book, a bit long winded towards the end but pretty good.

cheers

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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-12-07 10:17 AM
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40. 'cheap asian labour' - that says it all, corporate profit put before everything else n/t
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:53 AM
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20. Banned? By Republicans? In a Senate controlled by Democrats?
Something is wrong with this picture.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:27 AM
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21. Exactly, we need to find out which Dems. UFB.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:31 AM
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22. But us Republicans will cut your taxes!!!!!!!
:sarcasm:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:32 AM
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23. A video of what we have known from the get go.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 09:10 AM
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25. testimony was infront of the house appropriations defense subcommittee
Edited on Fri May-11-07 09:12 AM by orleans
"Contract workers in Iraq are wasting millions of dollars, committing crimes — including killings — with impunity, and undermining the efforts of U.S. military personnel to develop trust with Iraqi people, Scahill and filmmaker Robert Greenwald told the House Appropriations defense subcommittee May 10."


http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=2750348&C=america

so...who runs the house appropriations defense subcommittee that wouldn't allow this video to be shown?

on edit
looks like murtha is the chair for this subcommittee
http://appropriations.house.gov/Subcommittees/sub_def.shtml
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:11 PM
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31. They dance
Edited on Fri May-11-07 12:19 PM by saddlesore
and prance and make a good show
for the people to see at night
while the war profits continue to grow
and we look like the fools in their sight

it means nothing you see
for the show to go on
when power is easy to wield
it means nothing you see
for the people to frown
for their fear will make them yield

the power they have to distort and lie
the truth is plain and free
just open your eyes and turn off the tv
and awake to ignore the lies

me...edited a bit...it was a little dodgy at top...;-)
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MikMouse Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:56 AM
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26. Military No Longer Training For Civilian Employment
The primary reason many join the military service is their
outstanding training and experience for civilian jobs as
mechanics, administrators, cooks, truck drivers, electronic
technicians, etc.

Today those jobs are outsourced at tremendous cost. Soldiers
now leave the service with little or no usable job skills. The
impact on those people and society in terms of future
unemployment, homelessness and family destruction is probably
going to be horrendous. 

This is one more reason why young people no longer want to
serve our country. Do you want your children taught nothing
but how to kill, how to torture, and how to break down doors.

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petunia.here Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:22 AM
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27. K&R
If anyone hasn't seen this yet, it's a must see.

Free at google video. For those of us who are broke ass po' during this super great economic boom. :sarcasm:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6621486727392146155&q=iraq+for+sale+duration%3Along&hl=en

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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:43 AM
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28. War for profit? Just keep it going and let the bucks flow in....grab that 124 billion dollars more
from congress and say it's all to fight terrorism.

War for profit!
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:20 PM
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32. Repugs complicit in crime..
Why? What are they afraid of? The truth!! Heads should roll!
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 03:06 PM
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34. War profiteering. It's what the Bush family does best.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 03:23 PM
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35. war is profitable!
I love how the average american is so stupid about this! they don't get it - they don't see that fighting phantom bad guys in Iraq not only takes our eyes off the real bad guys, and weakens are military, and worse, destroys families there and here, death - destruction - torture.... sigh.

John Edwards - "be patriotic about something else other than war"

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- check it out, top '08 stuff
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 04:08 PM
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36. How do YOU spell corruption? R-e-p-u-b-l-i-c-a-n
This video should be aired in prime time on every PBS station.
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porque no Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 04:15 PM
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37. Didn't Halliburton buy KBR when Cheney was CEO?
Bold foresight.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 05:26 PM
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38. If you haven't seen the entire documentary, I highly recommend it
It will make your blood boil, but it is worth seeing.
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mckaan Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-12-07 11:49 AM
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41. Ok....
Couldnt even get through the whole segment! It makes me too angry..much like, I cant watch Resident Bush on TV...his face and expressions make my blood boil...

For those of you who have an hour...here is some interesting history on KBR..LBJ..and the history of the *Great White Fathers* from Texas...who pretty much started this whole warring fiasco. This is the money trail:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1929769365635576415&q=mistress%20LBJ
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