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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 10:51 PM
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Countdown: Will Canada Arrest Bush for Torture?
 
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MSNBC Countdown w/ KEITH OLBERMANN - March 16, 2009: Keith speaks with Gail Davidson of Canada's Lawyers Against The War, who wrote to Canadian PM Harper to request the Canadian law be enforced that specifically prohibits anyone reasonably suspected of war crimes from entering Canada.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 10:55 PM
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1. It's certainly a lovely thought
K&R

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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 11:13 PM
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2. We DO have the laws in place for that - NOW we just need leaders with balls
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National Legislative Framework

There are several remedies available to deal with alleged war criminals and persons who have been involved in crimes against humanity. The decision to use one or more of these mechanisms is based on a number of factors. These factors include: the different requirements of the courts in criminal and immigration/refugee cases to substantiate and verify evidence; the resources available to conduct the proceeding; and Canada's obligations under international law. These remedies are:

prosecution in Canada under the Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Act;

extradition to a foreign government (upon request);

surrender to an international tribunal (upon request);

revocation of citizenship and deportation;

denial of visa to persons outside of Canada;

denial of access (ineligibility) to Canada's refugee determination system;

exclusion from the protection of the 1951 United Nations Convention relating to the Status of Refugees;

inquiry and removal from Canada under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act; and/or

the designation of governments considered to have engaged in gross human rights violations under 35(1)(b) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act.

The decision to utilize a particular remedy is carefully considered and is assessed in accordance with the Government's policy that Canada not be a safe haven for war criminals.

Extradition to a foreign government or surrender to an international tribunal occurs only upon request and is considered in accordance with Canadian law. The provisions contained in Canada's Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Act govern criminal prosecutions in Canada. This relatively new statute strengthens the legislative foundation for criminal prosecutions in Canada.

The following Canadian statutes authorize enforcement action against alleged war criminals or persons who have committed crimes against humanity.

The Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Act:

provides for the prosecution of any individual present in Canada for any offence stated in the Act regardless of where the offence occurred;

codifies offences of genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes, and breach of responsibility by military commanders and civilian superiors;

creates new offences to protect the administration of justice at the ICC, including the safety of judges and witnesses; and,

recognizes the need to provide restitution to victims and provides a mechanism to do so for victims of offences (regulations to implement these provisions have not yet been passed).

http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/pi/wc-cg/rlf-rcl.html

OK Harper, show your cajones . . .

or not . .

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BobTheSubgenius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 11:13 PM
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3. As ashamed as it makes me as a Canadian, it will never happen.
Harper has made it clear that he is a big admirer of all things *. Hopefully, he's enough of a pragmatist to know that you don't hitch your dory to a sinking ship and actually DOES something about it.

At best, I suspect they'd have quiet communications back and forth in which they'd agree that perhaps a visit wouldn't be the best idea.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 04:54 AM
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10. Your Shame for Your Country Cannot Possibly Exceed Our US Shame, So Be Comforted
Individuals without state power cannot solve state problems. It takes a massive number of individuals working together, and grabbing those levers of power.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 09:02 AM
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14. Much as I admire my fine Canadian cousins..
I agree with you that it's probable nothing at all will be done.

Although you needn't be ashamed.



Mr Pip and I each have our "flag time". His is the flag of Scotland, mine is Canada. We switch off flags every couple of months. I'm always very proud to fly the Canadian flag outside my home.

:)


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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 11:25 PM
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4. K&R nt
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 11:28 PM
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5. do they have 'citizen's arrest' in Canada?
talk about a good way to endear themselves to the American population!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 11:34 PM
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6. Can someone help me
find out why any online video I try to watch is muted. Volume is all the way up, but nothing.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 11:58 PM
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7. Well, there's your master volume and then the YouTube video has a volume control, too.
One could be up and the other down?
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 12:37 AM
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8. I can hear music from itunes fine
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 02:22 AM
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9. They ought to arrest him
But I'll be pleasantly surprised if they do.
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RJ Connors Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 04:56 AM
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11. Follow the Rule of Law, eh?
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newmac Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 05:30 AM
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12. We don't have the balls to do it....
but maybe Canada does; and will show the world they mean business. Keep an eye on this one....
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oedura Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 05:59 AM
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13. It'll never happen. (nt)
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 09:08 AM
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15. Nope.
Harper is a big Bush fan.

BTW,thanks to all the idiots who voted for the Conservative Party in the last elections.

You voted against your own interests.At least Harpo doesn't have a majority Government.

:grr:

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 09:33 AM
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16. we are the only ones to handle the crimes of the Bush Administration.
the home of the brave??? not our Congress.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 03:37 PM
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17. Love Keith, but why is this even on the news? Will aliens land in Iowa tomorrow? Well maybe, but...
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 04:22 PM
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18. Because it is NEWS!
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