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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 09:12 AM
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Ex-Governor Eliot Spitzer - Claims Activities Went On 'Not Frequently, Not Long...'
 
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I have to take exception with a GOVERNOR not getting at least SOME kind of legal punishment for his actions - a fine, community service, SOMETHING... even a speeding ticket gets you a hefty fine and an 8 hour day of class. But from the madam's own account, handing over thousands of dollars to prostitutes on a weekly basis for YEARS by an acting Governor of a state somehow gets you NO punishment whatsoever? Is that any less absurd than the Wall Street folks getting away with their non-criminal financial dealings.

And for him to say it was 'not frequently' when it has been reported by the madam herself that he was there no-less-than-weekly from 2004 to 2006 (and later again) and tended to obsess about a girl and would want to see her on a daily basis in my opinion means that his words on Today Show are suspect. Finally, he says he 'fell into the behavior'. That's a little bit of a cop-out... this was not a random tryst at the office between co-workers after an office party.

If he wants to use his financial smarts and background to help with the financial issues going on right now, he should do so from his column and other means - but I have no interest in seeing a semi-repentent failure as Governor stepping back into a position of trust which he so easily broke the first time.

No need to post this video in the main page - just think it is interesting that he still appears to be dancing around his crimes. A bad sign.

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/02/05/2009-02-05_madams_tellall_book_reveals_eliot_spitze.html
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 09:16 AM
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1. Spitzer was targeted by the Bush* admin because he was effective
in going after their buddies. Is his behavior commendable? Hardly, but his was a victim-less crime. Compare that to these Wall Street and other big corporate creeps who have devastated the entire world economy, let alone aging John Doe who will be eating dogfood into his "glory years."

I could not disagree with you more...
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 09:20 AM
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3. I do not agree that prostitution is a victim-less crime.
Mr. Spitzer's family, most especially his wife, are certainly victims of his frequenting prostitutes.
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 09:31 AM
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4. His wife's hurt feelings don't figure in to the criminal aspect of his crime.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 10:27 AM
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8. If everyone who hurt their partner's feelings had to resign their job ....
That's her problem, not society's.
Society is not supposed to hang out in our bedrooms.

Isn't there a legal right to privacy.
The Constitution trumps the marriage permit.
The wife has no legal right to know!
Her feelings hurt, her problem, in her bedroom!
Society does not get to extract her revenge!!
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 10:52 AM
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9. Neither you nor #4 are a woman or a wife,
n/t
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 09:50 AM
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6. By that bit of "logic"
we should prosecute everyone that has an affair, or tires of their partner. Divorce certainly creates its share of "victims."
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 12:21 PM
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12. The family of anyone, both men and women, who cheat
are harmed by the actions of the cheater. Divorce harms families, especially children. Seeing a prostitute imo, is less harmful as it is far less likely to break up a marriage than relationship that is based on more than just sex.

I suppose we could, taking into account the amount of hurt caused by cheating and broken families, make cheating and divorce illegal, if hurt is the problem. Although I'm not sure how that would eliminate the hurt, as it surely wouldn't stop people from having affairs anyhow.

Personally, I'd prefer to make prostitution legal and let ordinary people work out their own personal problems.

And btw, Spitzers' wife appears to have handled the situation herself. She is still with him, and I don't think it's anyone else's business. She is a very accomplished and intelligent woman. I'm sure she knows what's best for her family and it appears she would very much like her husband not to have his career destroyed by what happened.

If he were a Repub, he'd still be in the Senate. I never had a problem with Vitter or Craig not losing their jobs over what they did either. Let it be decided in an election. I do have a problem with the disparity of it all re these three cases.

We are a very puritanical society. And I know, you will say it was the 'hypocricy' of someone who prosecuted others for what he himself was doing. True, let's hope he learned a lesson from that. And the same could be said of the two 'family values' Repub Senators.

But in the end, it is no more a 'crime' to see a prostitute, if 'victims' is what determines it, than having an affair or any other kind of cheating. So, let the public decide, and the families of those involved, how to handle what are really insignificant matters, considering the major problems facing this country right now. What a novel idea that would be.

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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 09:18 AM
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2. Interesting - prostitution a victimless crime - I won't touch that one
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 09:53 AM
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7. It isn't ALWAYS victimless.... but in the world of high stakes $$$
prostitution, I'd say yes--certainly from our criminal definition of "victim" which can also imply harm to the wider community or society as well.

Quite different from the worst exploitation scenarios seen in the inner city with sex for hire...
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GETPLANING Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 09:41 AM
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5. Spitzer was targeted
When you hear Spitzer speak, it becomes obvious why he was targeted.
I watched the tape slow to a crawl for 30 minutes when they announced that Spitzer had been caught spending his own money on a call girl. The floor traders were celebrating.
And I'll bet the bankers and traders spent a fortune on call girls and champagne that very evening.
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 11:29 AM
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10. I am much more interested in getting the bankers
than worrying about what Spitzer does in his private life. That's his wife's concern, not mine.

I can only hope that his misfortunes will get people to pay attention to what he is saying about the banks because he's on our side unlike Geithner and Summers. We need help to keep Wall street from ripping us off royally. The last thing I can about is a little hanky-panky.
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Democracyinkind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 11:32 AM
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11. Have we on DU generally agreed that the investigation

...that caused Spitzer's downfall was genuine?

I keep hearing these "that wasn't a real investigation" things - especially concerning his negligence on the heavy short sellers and other stuff.... I thought there was some debate about whose side Spitzer was on?

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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 02:21 PM
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13. I want to view this rubbish I can go to RedState.
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