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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 09:54 AM
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There's a Conspiracy of Silence Against Single Payer!
 
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 10:12 AM
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1. Thank You Kpete for posting this.
This has been an issue that I have been involved and advocated for since 1991.
It is and will always be for the lack of political will.
We must all continue to educate our politicians on this issue.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 10:21 AM
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2. Right On! Kick And Rec! Nurse Practitioner John Russell Is Out There Leading The Charge!
Edited on Thu Jun-04-09 10:21 AM by DaLittle Kitty
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 10:26 AM
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3. Single Payer Proponent For The Last SIX Years... The Plan!
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 10:53 AM
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4. there's political will..then there's political shills
Senator Max Baucus met Wednesday with advocates for single-payer healthcare, including Senator Bernie Sanders, and told them that he might drop criminal charges against 13 people arrested for speaking up in his hearings, but that he would not include any supporters of single-payer health coverage in any future hearings.

Senator Sanders said after the meeting that if healthcare reform did not create a single-payer system it shouldn't be done at all, and that within three or four years we would realize we'd solved nothing.

Sanders has a bill (S 486) that makes some of the changes he advocates, as well as a bill (S 703) to facilitate the creation by states of single-payer healthcare systems.

Sanders opened the press conference with a statement on the domination of the private for-profit health insurance companies wasting $350 billion per year in billing, profiteering, and complexity. If we were serious about healthcare reform, he said, we would be having a serious discussion of single-payer.

Dr. David Himmelstein, co-founder of PNHP and associate professor medicine at Harvard Medical School has announced the release of two new studies. The first, being released Wednesday, reportedly finds that some of the largest investors in tobacco stock are private health insurance companies. The second, to be released Thursday, reportedly shows that not only are personal bankruptcies increasing, but 62 percent of them are now due to medical debt.

http://www.democrats.com/node/19684


Since 1990 HMOs have bribed members of Congress to the tune of a cool $59,090,991, the biggest year of all being... 2008 ($10,342,979). Not counting presidential candidates, the biggest recipient of their largesse is none other than Max Baucus (both this year and cumulative years).

In the same period, Big Pharma ponied up $162,360,555. Take out the defeated and the retired and the presidential candidates and Baucus was the 5th biggest recipient (cumulatively) and second biggest recipient this year-- right after Mitch McConnell.

And in that period from 1990 the uber civic minded Insurance Industry showered members of Congress with $304,486,143 in bribes, $38,231,774 alone this year. Same stipulations and we find Senator Baucus the 4th biggest recipient over-all and the 5th biggest for 2008 (sandwiched comfortably between notorious Insurance industry shills Norm Coleman and John Sununu).

http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2008/11/can-max-baucus-be-trusted-with-crafting.html
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 10:58 AM
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5. Sadly, there are some here on DU who are advocating that those
of us who support single payer should keep quiet. Unbelievable!
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 12:53 PM
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6. It gets confusing. My party has left me
Edited on Thu Jun-04-09 12:53 PM by truedelphi
And you and every one else who understands the need to get rid of the corrupt insurance companies and keep them out of the loop.

The nurse in this video is rightly praising Sanders of Vermont and his help for the cause.

And he is now the closest person I can think of in the Senate who time after time does the right thing. But he is not even a Democrat - he is an Indie!


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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 07:38 PM
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10. SCREAM AS LOUDLY AS YOU CAN BECAUSE THIS IS THE CORPORATISTS TRYING TO RUN US OVER!
BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BASTARDS IN THE SENATE AND CONGRESS!!!
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Swede Atlanta Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 03:52 PM
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7. Max Baucus needs to feel the pain......
Maybe cutting off his tiny shriveled up senior nuts might help him feel the pain that those that don't have his federally funded insurance feel. He is he chief obstacle. Unfortunately he was re-selected in 2008 so we have 5 years of him left. But if we make a concerted effort, appear at every event in Montana end elsewhere with legal, controlled protests we can have an impact.

This all goes to the MONEY. Baucus took huge sums of campaign contributions from the insurance and other health care lobby groups. He must be either turned or defeated.
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 07:09 PM
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8. consider this- there is already single payer medical care for lots of americans
it is the military medical, probably a few million active duty and retired military have single payer health care and the republicans call it the best medical care in the world. Also the president and vice president very often are served at Bethesda Naval medical center and Walter Reed.

Why not single payer for everybody else???
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 07:20 PM
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9. k and r for watching at home. Thanks!! Anyone going to a party this weekend?
The health care parties that Obama's group has set up? I want to go, especially since I heard the last time that the ins industry sent lots of folks to the meetings to steer conversation away from single-payer.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 08:02 PM
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11. K&R
:kick:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 09:12 PM
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12. K & R Isn't Medicare a single payer system?
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 10:12 PM
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13. Part D (the drug benefit) is not. And there were complicated "reforms"
Edited on Thu Jun-04-09 10:12 PM by pam4water
pushed through under Bush that may allow privatization of some of the other parts in the future. It was clear to me what that bill did exactly.

But part D was intention set up to be administer by multiple private insurer so they would have less leverage verses the drug companies to negotiate lower drug costs. It's single payer from the point of view that the government write a check.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:35 PM
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14. ANY requests for money by the DNC, the DCCC -anyone!
I send them back without dough. I scrawl on the back that since it's obvious that the Ins. Cos. are in charge, go see them for these funds. My money buys me nothing!
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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:46 PM
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15. Insurance & Drug Companies own most of Congress
this needs to be exposed. We the People will have to die a terrible death so the drug companies and insurance companies can give their CEO's huge bonuses. In America that's all that counts. Our politicians take us all for a bunch of fools. Voting machines are to keep the powers-that-be in power. We have the numbers, they have the money.
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newmac Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 03:54 AM
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16. Max Bauchus's front lawn would make a fine place for a massive protest camp
If you are gonna take to the streets; it might be better to set up lawn chairs over at Max Bauchus's fine green lawn; there is lots of space and he can hear you much better.
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MicaelS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 06:57 AM
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17. When I first read that....
I saw "There's a Conspiracy of Silence Against Silent Prayer!" I went WTF????
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:54 AM
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18. LOL!
Thanks for the comical relief MicaelS.Badly needed. :rofl:
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 09:07 AM
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19. "There's a Conspiracy of Silence Against Single Payer!" . . . of course there is! . . .
universal, single payer health insurance essentially cuts out the middle men -- in this case the insurance companies and HMOs, who each year make hundreds of billions of dollars for . . . for . . . for . . .

well, I don't know what they do for the money . . . but you can bet your boots they don't want to lose it . . . which is what will happen with single payer . . .

these are very powerful companies, with very powerful friends in high places (i.e. Congress and the White House) . . . their very survival depends on this country NOT adopting a single payer system, so they're exercising every bit of their power to not only stop single payer, but to ensure that it's not even on the table for discussion . . .

the only chance single payer has of ever being adopted is when a very powerful person of great influence -- say, the President of the United States -- gets behind it and pushes it . . . apparently that's not going to happen with President Obama -- which means that the issue is dead and buried before it even has a chance to breathe . . .

RIP, single payer . . . we hardly knew ye . . .
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eagertolearn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 09:22 AM
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20. Thanks for this. More medical people should get involved.
Do you think pushing through a public option will help us eventually get to single payer? We all want single payer but can our economy handle the big jump?
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