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seraphicx Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 04:36 PM
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Olbermann's wrong about Amish Country...
 
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Keith Olbermann recently featured Lancaster County, Pa. as one of his "Worst Persons" this past Monday. The city here has recently installed 165 public cameras, making it the "most-watched" small cities in the country.

Problem is that the city is facing an enormous budget crunch. Salaries and benefits for police and firemen make up the vast majority of the city budget and the city is facing a deficit. The cameras are a cheap alternative, but critics have rightly criticized the possible invasion of privacy.

Read the original Los Angeles Times article on Lancaster here:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-spycam-city21-2009jun21,0,3641451.story

Watch Keith's Worst Persons from June 22 here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqorZkUBh-8]
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 05:19 PM
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1. So many wrongs here;
I kept waiting for Gil to say, "Just kidding!'

You putz you.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 05:26 PM
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2. Just wait and see what happens when
Jedidiah Yoder gets a ticket in the mail for running a red light. You don't want to see a pissed off Amish dude.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 06:56 PM
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3.  I know... people think the Amish are so quaint and cute.
I find it all oppressive, backward, absurd and just plain stupid.

As for cameras, they may witness the crime but no one is there to stop it.
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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:53 PM
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7. I have. More than once
I have Amish relatives. My father was an excommunicated Mennonite. If you knew me, you'd realize that that explains a lot.
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MarinCoUSA Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:11 PM
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4. Still trying to exactly figure this one out.
If as Gil says, this is the camera eyes instead of the cop eyes, then is it not like living with a cop under every bush?

Am very ambivalent here.
They tore down 100+ year old center city buildings (one of which was the first department store in the US) during the 70's- and put up modern crap- and now they have just opened a big convention center in the downtown central square to try to "bring back" the city. I grew up listening to mom tell me how the Republican's were so popular there because they never raised taxes to build roads. Well the roads there are now much improved and I am sure the city is facing a deficit.
And now my 80+ year old mom and dad live within a block or two of any one of the street signs in Gil's piece. Has it come to this?

Very ambivalent about this.

thanks for the post
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LostinRed Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:41 PM
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5. He makes strong arguments
My problem is the fact there is not legislation how the footage could be used.
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Gamey Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:51 PM
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6. PRIVATE surveillance of PUBLIC spaces is EVIL!
He mentions making government more efficient but it's not government doing this! Once again, an idea which MAY provide fruitful or efficient results for ALL of us is taken away before it ever got started.
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 09:46 PM
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8. The Amish NEED watching
Some of the biggest perpetrators of puppy mills out there.
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seraphicx Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 11:46 AM
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9. city-livin' amish?
It's too bad then all the Amish live in the very rural parts of this area where there are no cameras. The city is the only one with the cameras...
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