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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:53 PM
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Hey Joe Lieberman! The REAL Reason You're Against the Public Option?
 
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Video by Lee Stranahan.

Lieberman says he's against a public option to compete with a public plan because there is already enough competition.

However, there has been consolidation in the health insurance industry.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:58 PM
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1. The Insurance Cos have had free reign to all the competition for
all these past years. Guess what competing with each other
has done---Made the Prices go UP UP UP.

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 02:25 PM
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34. Truth is, they've never really competed. They're a cartel, with tacit
agreements on the bottom line, and to never undercut the opposition. That guarantees profits for all (insurers).
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 05:03 PM
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2. The REAL REASON he opposes healthcare reform? Hadassah Lieberman, his wife. . .
Hadassah has worked for the lobbying company, APCO Associates, that had many pharmaceutical and healthcare corporations among its clients, as well as four major drug companies such as Pfizer. In March 2005, Hadassah was hired by Hill & Knowlton (another healthcare lobbyist) as "senior counselor" in the firm's "health care and pharmaceuticals practice." Hadassah's close relationship with pharmaceutical and healthcare corporations while her husband introduced legislation benefiting these exact companies has raised questions about improprieties and conflict of interest. (Wikipedia -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadassah_Lieberman --though there are substantially more sources for her and Joe's perfidy.)

But it's all the same, what Lee Stranahan illustrates -- follow the money and you'll learn why healthcare reform (to say nothing of public option) is opposed so adamantly by those who "work with the public's interest at heart."
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 12:42 AM
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18. SUCH A SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS WE HAVE
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:15 AM
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24. And even that is an understatement.
Essentially we have a fascist government for the corporations and by the corporations. Is there any doubt?

I'm watching C-Span's Washington Journal right now. They just had on a retired colonel representing a right wing think tank (probably tax payer funded) telling us all how wonderful the Iraq War was/is. Basically he is an advocate of staying longer. Of course the host cited several articles in support and even played Dick Cheney's brilliant proclamation from yesterday. C-Span won't reply to my e-mail suggesting a bit more fairness would be warranted.
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 04:05 PM
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37. What I don't understand is how people SWALLOW the lies.
I mean imagine I came out tomorrow, and said "Hey, I built a better mousetrap. I'm going into business to sell it". Somebody might warn me that there is a lot of competition in the mousetrap business, but if I said I had a better product that I think will do fine on the market and I'm not going into debt to start my business, anybody would say "Okay, good luck with that!" Because if people didn't like my mousetrap over the others, they wouldn't buy it no loss. On the other hand, if I make it, its because I bought something better than what's already on the market. So its a win-win situation to try, to put my product on the market and see if people like it. At best a better product is offered, at worse nothing changes

In fact, the ONLY people who would EVER tell me absolutely NOT to go into business would be the mousetrap companies, because they know they have an inferior product which would be threatened and they know they cannot compete. Republicans have overtly said that private sector could not compete with a government option. But when you can't compete on a free market where people have choices of which product to choose, its because you have an inferior product, period. There is no other explanation. And the fact that private health insurance is an inferior product undermines all the arguments against public health care. So which is it? Private health insurance is better so people will choose it if they are given the choice and nobody will want the public option, or private health care can't compete with the government option because everybody will want it? The only alternative to those two is the belief that people, if given the choice, will choose an inferior product...and that belief undermines ALL free market thought, and is essentially an argument for centrally planned socialist government.

Sorry to rant at you, but imagining half of Americans nodding to the nonsense repug arguments puts me in a tizzy.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 05:16 PM
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38. I'll join you in your tizzy.
Every day I hear some TV talking head telling us how bad the public option would be. They are ramping up the anti-public option adds on TV now. Fewer people buy into their crap this time around.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 05:14 PM
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3. That ad is right on target.
You can be sure I will be making a call to Senator Liberman.

Great job Lee. You are amazing. Don't stop.
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quidam56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 05:37 PM
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4. Politicians and Profit Machines.
As a former health care giver and after seeing what is deemed, defended and supported as "the acceptable standards of health care" in Tennessee and Virginia I support public option. http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=62 Clearly profit care comes ahead of patient care.
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pkdu Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:26 PM
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5. ..and part of each premium paid , goes thru their hands into Joe-L's pocket
..and to think he could have been our VP. :puke:
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:25 PM
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6. This guy is going places with his cyber ads against these
ugly politicians.

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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:27 PM
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7. K&R
:kick:
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:55 PM
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8. K & R n/t
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 08:19 PM
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9. I really hope...
...that this is Joe's last term. Perhaps his constituents have finally had enough.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 10:12 PM
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10. K & wish I could R this 1,000 times. n/t
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 10:25 PM
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11. Thank You, Lee!
We know which side LIEberman is on. And we'll remember when he comes up for re-election, too!
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 10:27 PM
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12. What a douche. I'm ashamed that he is Jewish
There are at least 100 principles of Judaism that he's broken in the last few years... and none of us are sacrificing goats or anything but COME ON!

How can one bag hold so much douche?
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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 11:34 PM
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13. His America is ranked $38 in health care
Greed is the name of his bill.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 12:09 AM
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15. But Mitch the Bitch said we have the greatest health care in the world
:crazy::sarcasm:
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 02:28 PM
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35. Well, it is true - rich americans have the greatest healthcare in the world.
Even if they have fly to Europe to get it.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 12:08 AM
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14. Lobbyist penis must be Kosher then
:puke:
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 12:17 AM
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16. Homophobic and anti-Semitic. Classy!
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 12:31 AM
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17. Actually anti-sycophantic and the fact I'm attacking his religion is a non-factor as well
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 01:07 AM
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20. Defending said homphobia and admitted anti-Semitism, even MORE classy.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:18 AM
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25. There is no one
less classy than Joe Lieberman.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 12:25 PM
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32. Almost true.
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 12:25 PM by Behind the Aegis
But, I find people who post homophobic and anti-Semitic crap to be less classy. Perhaps bigotry isn't as big a deal to you. To each his own.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 07:41 PM
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39. Go back to National Vanguard, pig.
Edited on Wed Jul-01-09 07:41 PM by Jim Sagle
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 12:46 AM
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19. K & R!
:kick:

It's been said before, but can't be said enough, so I'll say it again: LIEberman is a douche bag through and through.

:puke:
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GivePeaceAchance Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 02:41 AM
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21. I think it's clear that his views domestically and international are just bought and sold.
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 02:42 AM by GivePeaceAchance
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:19 AM
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26. +1, pretty clear to me. nt
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 05:11 AM
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22. There's something really sleazy
about Liebermann.
His foreskin should be reattached with staples and no anesthesia.
And that whine makes my skin crawl. You know, the one where he apologizes for being a Democrat.
He has a well deserved place on the list with Max Baucus, the Nelsons, Diane Feinstein, Mary Landrieu and Evan Bayh.
If the Democratic grass/netroots does anything, it should be targeting the aforementioned senators for defeat in upcoming elections. They must be driven from the political landscape, shysters all.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:20 AM
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27. Wizard, you are so right!
They could fit right in, in the GOP.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:10 AM
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23. Kick
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Celtic Merlin Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 11:32 AM
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28. Who voted for Joe Lieberman.....WHO???
I hope they all get sick.

Celtic Merlin
Carlinist
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 11:55 AM
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30. Mostly Republicans, conservative independents & disloyal DLC types. Birds of a feather.
n/t
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 11:53 AM
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29. A corrupt DLCer & traitor? That's gotta be rare.
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 11:53 AM by Dr Fate
;)
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Stranahan Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 12:16 PM
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31. Thanks for all the support!
Been reading comments on my videos here and I can't thank everyone at DU enough....

That part about 'uninsured and unemployed' is 100% true, so let me ask you to do me a favor and help support my health care reform videos because they are starting to get some real traction.

1) Comment / rate the videos on YouTube.

2) Email / twitter any press or health care organizations about the videos. This can help spread the word in a HUGE way.

3) Consider making a direct contribution to help me take on the health insurance industry because when it comes to videos per dollar, I'm your best value. I'm able to crank these puppues out because I do my own everything - writing, production, research, voiceover, music, editing, graphics...all of it.

You can donate via PayPal at my website - LeeStranahan.com

This issue is so important that I refuse to lose. We're in this together and thanks again for all your help.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 02:59 PM
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36. Welcome to DU!!!
Great job, and I will do whatever
I can to help.

:hi:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 01:42 PM
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33. K&R
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