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johntully Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:35 AM
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RUDY GIULIANI CALLS LEWIS LIBBY SENTENCE "GROSSLY EXCESSIVE"
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 12:36 AM by johntully
 
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RUDY GIULIANI THINKS SCOOTER LIBBY IS GETTING ROYALLY SCREWED.
He states that the sentence was "grossly excessive"

John Dean takes him to school.
The rule of law seems to disappear when it comes to the Republican Party.
Weren't these same Republicans screaming about Bill Clinton lying about a blowjob?...
...that it in fact wasn't the blowjob per se but the lying about the blowjob...
Right?
Aight....

Shameless...
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:37 AM
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1. For some reason, johntully,
They certainly appear to be.
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johntully Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:42 AM
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3. I've always been a fan of Bill Maher because he once said
that he didn't understand why more people AREN'T angry.

My theory:

Video games
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:40 AM
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2. Is Rudy worried about a possible sentencing in his own future nt
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:43 AM
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4. Maybe they just shoulda shot him 40 times or shoved a plunger up his ass
That seems to be more Rudy's style.
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 06:54 AM
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19. You're a day ahead of me, but that's what I thought too.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:59 AM
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5. He didn't mention Weinberger.
Another presidential pardon before sentence served - before trial even!
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johntully Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:05 AM
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6. Good catch!
Good Ol' Casper!
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:07 AM
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7. Everyone I've talked to thinks it was excessively leinient
30 months for what amounts to treason (and no, that's not just a nasty word, Plame's status and position mean people have probably died over this little trick) is actually extraordinarily leinient.

They're also lying about Clinton's lying. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure articles of impeachment were being drawn up before the interview in which he lied ever took place. Someone with Lexis access want to check?

But, since it seems obvious that he will be pardoned before he serves even a fraction of that, perhaps teh R's are just getting their alibi out in the open?
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johntully Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:32 AM
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8. Gene Lyons
is always a good place to start

I think you're right Prophet but let's Nexis this important point.


BTW
What are all your thoughts on Cindy Sheehan's and Crooks and Liars' bashing of Democratic Underground?
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 04:06 PM
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17. I don't have an opinion tbh
Cincy Sheehan might be the public face of the peace movement but it was always bigger than just her.

Also, this is politics. If you're not pissing someone off, you're doing it wrong.
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johntully Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:33 AM
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9. Gene Lyons work....
is always a good place to start

I think you're right Prophet but let's Nexis this important point.


BTW
What are all your thoughts on Cindy Sheehan's and Crooks and Liars' bashing of Democratic Underground?
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 10:08 AM
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10. Sure. Aldrich Ames is glad to hear that Rudy's on his side. n/t
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:21 PM
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11. I hate pointing this out, cuz most consider it sophistry
but Clinton never actually lied, he decieved and he dissembled, but he answered the question honestly given his understanding of the meaning of "sexual relations." I think it was stupid and ultimately self-defeating, but it goes to show how much Republicans wanted to "get" Clinton they thought they had the noose around his neck and when he slipped out the Republicans were so frustrated they decided to impeach anyways.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 04:04 PM
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16. Point well taken
But the perception (which is all that matters in politics these days) remains nonetheless.
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skul_Donteecha Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:32 PM
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12. Grossly excessive? How can he say that?
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 01:33 PM by skul_Donteecha
The sentence that was grossly excessive was the 46 day sentence handed down to that sweet love child Paris Hilton. My God man, do you realize she had to suffer thru 4 days in a special celebrity cell and wear an orange jump suit?????? And she had a medical condition so hush hush, they wont even talk about it. Hang nails? Thats why they had to set her free and send her home where it is hoped she will learn her lesson by watching HD TV, having her chef cook for her and the ability to have her friends over in the evening for Party Time.
My God man how cruel can they be?
I wonder if Louis Libby has her cell-phone number. Ya think?
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:30 PM
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14. In my experience
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 02:38 PM by ProudDad
When one has a medical condition in jail or prison one either suffers or dies.

Pain, mental anguish, depression -- the response of the prison/jail medical establishment is "What do you expect, you're in jail!"

Ah, but the rich don't live in the same world we do...


On Edit: this REALLY PISSES ME OFF. The little rich pissant can't even do 23 days in her "special cell for special people"!!! God Damn!!! If she'd been a black girl driving her Toyota, drunk, at night with the lights off and on probation, she'd be doing 6 months in PRISON and if she had a medical condition, TOUGH SHIT...

That's how the REST OF US are treated!!!

Double-standard anyone?

We need a LOT more of this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2867955
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SethInUpstateNY Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:28 PM
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13. Isn't Rudy being
just a tad over dramatic? He said a man's life is at stake. Unless I missed something, I don't think Libby is going to be executed.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:27 PM
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15. rudy is excessively gross
and the rest of the repukes and their mindless lemming followers are as well
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 09:18 PM
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18. Being someone who was involved in outing a covert CIA agent
that cost the lives of people who were connected to her when some governments found out she was CIA...I think he got off pretty lightly; certainly better than those who were lined up and shot because of his disgusting behavior...x(
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