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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:02 PM
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Dr. Howard Dean on Dr. Nancy today: Co-ops Don't Work; Public Option is the Only True Reform
Edited on Mon Aug-17-09 12:03 PM by madfloridian
 
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Dean really argues back with her. Haven't had time to transcribe any of it. He does have a chance to say that it would be easy just to extend Medicare.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:03 PM
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1. K & R n/t
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:11 PM
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2. i can't help but wonder.... is she just playing devil's advocate, or is she trying to
sell this stupid co op thing??? obviously the co-ops couldn't possibly compete with private because the power is in the numbers.... the more people in the pool the better for everyone. I am at the point i can't even hear this stuff anymore I am getting so anxious and upset.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:15 PM
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3. Hard to tell.
Edited on Mon Aug-17-09 12:49 PM by madfloridian
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 02:45 PM
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12. Can somebody explain this Co-Op thing to me?
I have heard the term recently, but to be honest I have no idea what it is.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 04:05 PM
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13. as far as i know a co-op would be small groups of people
as opposed to one group. perhaps regionally?? i am not sure, but there is no way small groups in a pool can compete with the big guys. We need one big pool. the bigger the pool, the better the price will be for everyone in it. that's why big companies can get insurance cheaper than small businesses.... they have a lot more employees.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:44 PM
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16. She's a straight up Republican, she's anti-health reform.
She said so basically on her show last week. She publicly said that if the debate was on health reform last fall, rather than the economy, we'd have something very different going on today. She even went as far as to say, however we'll never know now. Her guests couldn't even respond to that.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:19 PM
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4. glad he snapped her back about the 'dirty word' crapola

idiots on TV never cease to amaze me
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:55 PM
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9. 'dirty word'
That is straight out of the Republican playbook. The same thing was done to the word 'liberal' they ridiculed and ridiculed and then started claiming it was now a 'dirty word' that no one wanted to be connected to. Being a proud liberal I think that is obvious bull but it is part of their larger propaganda package in controlling the framing and language used in the debate. If they can take our words away from us then the only way an idea can be discussed is the way they frame it. Whether this reporter did it on purpose or is just another dupe of right wing is hard to tell. Personally I don't pay much attention to what most of the talking heads have to say.
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:25 PM
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5. It's a Good Thing Obama Didn't Give Him Any Real Power Isn't it?
BECAUSE THEN WE'D HAVE A FUCKING CHANCE.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:38 PM
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6. Facts have a well known 'doomsayer/circular firing squad/sky is falling/defeatist' bias.
Edited on Mon Aug-17-09 01:09 PM by ihavenobias
;)

Did I cover most of the pejoratives that are sure to come your way?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:40 PM
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7. You are right. Picture of the New Team at the DLC website.
The way this group of spokespersons speak...you would think they were influenced by the DLC.

Oh, wait, they are.

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=254886&kaid=86&subid=85



This group is not about to let Dean anywhere near policy.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:01 PM
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15. They are selling us down the river. Again.
:cry:
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SandWalker1984 Donating Member (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:45 PM
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8. Medicare option for all should be the Public Option
Coops are a joke. They tried them here in Florida and they failed miserably because the insurance corporations killed them. Think $17,000 a year for 2 people with high deductibles is good? THAT's what you get with coops.

We should all have the option to join Medicare. That should be the public option, not the watered down, sell out crap being bounced around by the White House.

If we let the big insurance corporations win this time around, watch what they will do to all of us into the future.

Obama needs to stand up for the people that elected him!
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:59 PM
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10. K & R
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 01:06 PM
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11. We need to remove Baucus from health care talks --
of course, it should have been Howard Dean heading up these discussions --

Baucus is pre-owned and pre-bribed ....

as most of our elected representatives are!!!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:23 PM
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14. Agreed.
:hi:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 10:38 AM
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17. First time I have watched Dr. Nancy.
I find her confusing, perhaps a little condescending in tone.

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 11:20 AM
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18.  Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours Kick!
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