Gibbs: Obama Willing To Be One-Term Prez Over Health Care?

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Democrats will be back to a minority party, too.

Remember 1994.

They are doing it again now.

And THAT my friends, is why Obama can KMA!!

able to get any REAL answers, while "those people" in D.C. screw around with the rest of us. Floating a balloon, putting suggestions on the table, saying we want this but might settle for the other, parsing words and all the other crap keeps going on. Meanwhile, we are unable to REALLY get a CLEAR answer out of Obama about what exactly he wants.

I see it all the time here on D.U. Maybe he's smarter and is going to pull a rabbit out of his hat, maybe he's making some sort of deal, maybe he's really going to give it to the Repukes, maybe this, maybe that... STILL I don't know shit from apple butter WHAT deals are being made.

I'm thinking they don't include me and the rest of us all that much!! How I WISH, and I really really do WISH I was wrong. But I DON'T THINK SO!!!

I'm so FED UP!! Back to reading books and watching alternative TV! Been doing THAT now just to keep from getting an ulcer! I do have insurance, but maybe it doesn't cover ulcers!!!!

I'm sorry but it just is.

There was a huge "throw the bums out" movement based on the fact that Congress was full of spineless do-nothings.

Those do-nothings were Democrats who failed to work on the health care mess, most of all. Democrats were demoralized and didn't vote. Republicans were swept into office on their promise to enact necessary reforms.

We know what happened then. We don't want to repeat it, not if we're sane.

Clinton's health care initiative died in committee without any attempt to work on an alternative. At least this time they're bothering to do some work.

However, if they wimp out on a final bill again, they're gone.

a big stinking SHITPILE, of MANDATED purchase of an inferior UNREGULATED product that enriches the coffers of the already well "coffered" (read: already OBSCENELY PHUCKING RICH) and leaves us still basically uncovered because of ridiculous premiums for anything resembling basic coverage, or a "catostrophic" coverage that leaves us UNCOVERED for most basic care - sort of the equivalent of basic "liability" only coverage in the auto insurance industry mandates.

Of course they will {probably} include the bullshit Co-Ops as the "public option", but these will be designed to FAIL (they would fail of their own accord anyway, as the majority of previous efforts have, but you can bet there would BE plenty of poison pills to ensure the eventual failure just to be sure),and would give the Private FOR PROFIT leaches something they can point to and say how BADLY the "Public option" has failed.

Single Payer should have been on the table, but since it wasn't a strong PUBLIC option IS the compromise NOT BULLSHIT Co-OPs (Cop-Outs)

If a STRONG Public Option that can and does contain the cost and PROMOTE competitiveness and cost reduction in the Insurance, medical, Pharma and medical equipment industry is NOT part of the program, then I will stay home next election. Let the Phucking rethugs take control again - then the ultimate IMPLOSION of the economy will be on THEIR watch - as it should be, since it is ultimately Rethuglikan policies which has put us where we are, and if the Dems are to SPINELESS to actually do what the vast MAJORITY of Americans WANT, then PHUCK tehm too - including the corprotist Prez!

(that's funny peculiar, not funny ha ha), but I honestly think even a piece of shit like national Masscare will be enough to keep the Democrats in power. At least they'll have done something, even if it's the wrong thing.

With Democrats in power, when the scam fails the way it's failing in Mass, they'll be forced to tinker with it, probably allowing a Medicare opt in at the very least.

Remember, conservative Democrats are still Democrats. They'll do the right thing after all the wrong things have blown up in their piggy faces.

right first and politics being the obstacle to navigate, in order to get those things done. I think the way President Obama views things, with his education he shouldn't have to get down in the mud to be on the level with Republicans, he has the qualifications to out wit them. He doesn't have to prove himself a heavy handed steroeo type he has prove himself as elevated role model. He's always thinking about the future and this he wants future gneration Obamas male or female to emulate with dignity. Sometimes sure he'll lose his cool, but feel he more favor to win the battle of ideas.

termers, so it doesn't matter. He's already reached the goal.

Colin Powell wouldn't run for the job because he knew what he'd be up against and he served in war. So I personally feel it's more the wealth and glory in his objective to be President.

I didn't think he really cared if he was a one-termer.

The so-called public option has been gelded/demasculated to the extent it can hardly be recognized as reform. Furthermore, if he were to be a one-term president, he would just retire to write a tell-all book and earn $$$ or cash in on his connections and become an influential snake-oil salesman, I mean public lobbyist. Jimmy Carter defies the norm and has been the only former president that has applied his public service to try to make the world a better place.

Energy efficiency WAY BACK WHEN!!! Carter was and remains a truly dedicated man! Just up the road there is a new Habitat For Humanity home being built. Some people in my neighborhood came around with a petition wanting me to sign so that it wouldn't get built!

I live in a very small nice community, close to the Gulf of Mexico and many around here didn't want to "muddy up" our little haven! I told them no and I guess others did too because it's being built right now!!

I'm sick to death of all the FIGHTING and BACK ROOM dealing that goes on in D.C.! I know it's been done for decades, but each year it seems it gets worse.

In other words, as I used to say about Ronnie Ray-Guns... I GOT MINE -- YOU GET YOURS! Just one huge problem with that, too few people are getting ANY!!

Have been relegated to some museum.

If Obama wanted to make a statement about his environmental advocacy why doesn't he put solar panels on the White House.

I firmly believe, that there is no more 'public' in public option - as you note, it's all done now by back room dealing in DC.

Saddly, this is such a disappointment. There was some much hope - I mean, realistically, we knew Obama was a moderate - but here we were - a genuine mandate two houses of our legislature dominated by Democrats. What do we get? Whining about a few ignorant loud mouths at a bunch of town halls - and accomodtions as if these people had any decent ideas worth compromising on. I actually think that the DP doesn't want reform and exploits the tea-bagger faction so that they will have an excuse to maintain the status quo.

In terms of management style, I have to give Obama an F - I heard an interesting discussion of the Obama Administration's entire health care legislative process today on an independent radio station. He and the house and senate never really came out and said what was in 'the bill'. Furthermore, they totally mismanadged its marketing. At this point it's been drowned out by misinformation and issues having nothing to do with the health care debate....(Again, I'm wondering out loud whether or not this was deliberate - they have had more than enough opportunities to put this through given a vision...but I don't see a clearly articulated vision.)

I don't think that he would necessarily be a one-term president if the health care reform tanks - I'm a cynic and unfortunately, I don't believe our electoral process is efficient enough to get anyone to replace him, or at least anyone that could do better.

I plan on using this energy in ways that make noise.