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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 10:36 AM
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Texas Sovereignty or Secession Rally - Larry Kilgore
 
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 10:44 AM
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1. go here
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 10:48 AM
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2. worth a look-see

I should send to all my republican texans. breathtaking in its stupidity, and yet funny somehow
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davidhilton Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:43 AM
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3. give it to em...
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 07:33 PM
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12. I agree and here is why...
...the GOP would never win another presidential election without Texas' Electoral votes.

Let Texas go and then give statehood to DC and the Senate will be ours for a generation at least.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:20 PM
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15. Texas IS part of the USA
and we are not going anywhere.
How would you feel if we said we wanted you and 'your' state to no longer be part of America?

It is illegal for any state of the union to secede.

Obama won Austin, Dallas, Houston, El Paso, San Antonio and many other cities/counties in the 2008 election.
There are many democrats down here in Texas.

A recent article showed that Texas is now more PURPLE than red and many of us believe that Texas will be BLUE in 2012

Please stop your Texas bashing.
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:37 PM
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18. As far as I know...
... there is no such thing as an active and vocal Michigan secessionist movement. You can't say that about Texas.

I hope you are right. But if you aren't and the wackos take over down there, then you will be welcome to join us up here. I'd be more than willing to let a few Texas refugees sleep in my spare room till they can get settled.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:51 PM
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19. Hahahaha!
Well that is nice of you to offer your spare room.

The 'majority' of Texans do not agree with the nutty secessionists.
and even the majority of Texans did not vote for Gov. Perry, Perry was voted in with only 30 something percent of the vote.

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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:05 AM
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21. don't confuse a few idiots as representing the whole population,truth of the matter
is by design the democratic party basically gave up years ago investing into the Tx political structure. For yrs there was no get out to vote effort or good organization. Basically what you have here is Big Oil and Big Construction controlling the interests. No liberal talk radio. Its changing
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KrazyinKS Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:59 AM
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4. Texas secession
I have a question. How much of the Military Industrial complex is in Texas? How much do they get yearly in military contracts. I think it is a LOT. I read somewhere in my Bush book that Dresser industries is based in Dallas and they are heavily involved in Military contracts and such. Do they really think they can do without our tax money?
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 12:05 PM
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6. There is a lot of military in Oklahoma too nt
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rexcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:56 PM
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11. Welcome to DU!
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:01 AM
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20. everything military wise is made in Texas checkout a few
Military & Defense Electronics in Northern Texas
Bell Helicopter in DFW metroplex
Armor Holdings, Inc., a leading manufacturer and distributor of military vehicles Sealy Tx
Top Military Supplies Wholesale & Manufacturers Texas college station
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Crowman2009 Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 01:52 PM
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22. Send it to Michigan! We have both the land and facilities.
Hell you could probably take all of the land for industrial use in Detroit, because it's already been evironmentally contaminated at one time. So why bother tearing down forests or farmland.

Plus you could also expand the Selfridge and Alpena to accomidate the Air Force.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:15 PM
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23. freaking Nafta screwed you guys over something fierce
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 12:05 PM
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5. They can keep Texas
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:03 PM
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7. Please....just leave already!
Why does anyone care what these morons think or say? Such dumb asses, making such fools of themselves. Sad that others follow...but hey, we are a nation of morons. PLENTY to go around. TX has more than their fair share of them. But hey...that's a big state, no?
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:21 PM
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8. Many people consider Texas to be a bit of a foreign country, anyway.
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byebyegop Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:41 PM
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9. Enough talk. JUST DO IT! n/t
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rexcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:55 PM
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10. Secession didn't work in 1861 and it won't work now...
Any military personnel actively supporting secession as this "gentleman" has suggested would be advised to keep it to themselves. I don't think the military upper echelon would think highly of active military personnel supporting a secession movement, especially in time of war. On the other hand we could move out NASA and all government installations out of the state of TexAss. Having lived in TexAss for a short time and visiting many times (business and family) I would not miss it.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:18 PM
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13. Texas is TURNING BLUE
It is illegal for any state of the union to secede.

Obama won Austin, Dallas, Houston, El Paso, San Antonio and many other cities/counties in the 2008 election.
There are many democrats down here in Texas.

A recent article showed that Texas is now more PURPLE than red and many of us believe that Texas will be BLUE in 2012

Everyone needs to stop Texas bashing and do something positive to help us Democratic Texans turn our state BLUE!

Obama 2012
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Crowman2009 Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:20 PM
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14. I bet this asshole just loved that flag after 9/11!
Fuckin Hypocrite!
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WhoIsNumberNone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:22 PM
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16. What. A. Maroon.
I 100% guarantee this bozo has not given any thought to what it will mean to him and his dopey state if they do secede.
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Crowman2009 Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:25 PM
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17. Here's how that last Secession movement ended:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_in_the_American_Civil_War#Collapse_of_Confederate_authority_in_Texas

Collapse of Confederate authority in Texas

In the spring of 1865, Texas contained over 60,000 soldiers of the Army of the Trans-Mississippi under Gen. Edmund Kirby Smith. As garrison troops far removed from the main theaters of the war, morale had deteriorated to the point of frequent desertion and thievery. News of Lee's surrender finally reached Texas around April 20, and local Confederate authorities had mixed opinions on their future course of action. Most senior military leaders vowed to press on with the war, including commanding general Kirby Smith. Many soldiers, however, greeted frequent speeches whose theme was "fight on, boys" with derision, or simply failed to attend them.

The month of May brought increasing rates of desertion. News of Joseph E. Johnston's and Richard Taylor's surrenders confirmed that Texas, Louisiana, and Arkansas were now essentially alone to continue the Confederate cause. On May 14, troops in Galveston briefly mutinied, but were persuaded to remain under arms. However, morale continued to sink. Generals John B. Magruder and Kirby Smith (who had already corresponded with Union Maj. Gen. John Pope regarding surrender terms on May 9) no longer sought to rally their demoralized troops, but rather began discussing the distribution of Confederate government property. Magruder pled that the rapid disbanding of the army would prevent depradations by disgruntled soldiers against the civilian population.

The haste to disband the army, combined with the pressing need to protect Confederate property from Union confiscation, created general mayhem. Soldiers began openly pillaging the Galveston quartermasters stores on May 21. Over the next few days, a mob demanded that a government warehouse be opened to them, and soldiers detained and plundered a train. Several hundred civilians sacked the blockade runner Lark when it docked on May 24, and troops sent to pacify the crowd soon joined in the plunder. On May 23, residents in Houston sacked the ordnance building and the clothing bureau. Riots continued in the city until May 26. Both government and private stores were raided extensively in Tyler, Marshall, Huntsville, Gonzales, Hempstead, La Grange, and Brownsville. In Navasota, a powder explosion cost eight lives and flattened twenty buildings. In Austin, the state treasury was raided and $17,000 in gold was stolen. By May 27, half of the original Confederate forces in Texas had deserted or been disbanded, and formal order had disappeared into lawlessness in many areas of Texas.

The formal remnants of Kirby Smith's army had finally disintegrated by the end of May. Upon his arrival in Houston from Shreveport, the general called a court of inquiry to investigate the "causes and manner of the disbandment of the troops in the District of Texas, New Mexico and Arizona." The May 30 findings laid the blame primarily on the civilian population. Kirby Smith addressed his few remaining soldiers and condemned those that had fled for not struggling to the last and leaving him "a commander without an army – a General without troops." On June 2, he formally surrendered what was left of the Army of the Trans-Mississippi.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:19 PM
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24. Let 'em go. I give it about 6 months before they want back in. nt
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Crowman2009 Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 08:44 PM
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25. I'll wait until the citizens hang the President of Texas on the Gallows.
After he tries to implement biblical law and allows the police to kill anyone they want.
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