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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:59 AM
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Young Turks: Should Obama Start Calling Out R's & Blue Dogs By Name?
 
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Jayar rocks!!! :loveya:
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GivePeaceAchance Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:10 AM
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1. A very important commentary this one definitely one to share with Republican aquaintances...
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 11:13 AM by GivePeaceAchance
Tell them the clips about birth cirtificates, I guess vaguely about immigrants birth critificates. At least it might give them a little perspective on what the GOP hoax they're pulling here, also it might not.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:17 PM
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2. Wilson won't say President Obama
Refers to the President as 'the White House'.....this may be typical but to me Wilson this associates Wilson strongly with the vocal minority in this country who won't accecpt leadership by a black man.

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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:49 PM
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3. You cant call someone out for being less wrong.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:55 PM
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4. Rahm screams at Progressive groups to not call out Blue Dogs
think he just pulls that out of the air. Of course, it comes down from Obama.

I would have liked a stronger defense of health care for every one in this country regardless of citizenship but Cenk makes a couple good points so alright.
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 01:13 PM
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5. Okay, let me play devils advocate here for a sec.
I always love Cenk's commentary and there was one thing here that I was hoping to hear but didn't. I am asking this because I have conversations with somebody who makes Joe Wilson look like a liberal and this topic will come up (because I will bring it up). If an illegal alien can buy private insurance is a non-issue because it is their own money... end of story. If an illegal alien can buy public insurance, isn't part of it subsidised by taxpayers? Actually, I am not sure if it is subsidized, so maybe somebody can clarify it for me.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 07:47 PM
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6. Adding illegal aliens would increase the size of the risk pool
and drive costs down even further, no?

Watch the Reich video on public option. It does a decent job of visually simplifying the debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXFHXqrrJ6g

Public Option is just one more choice that can cover people and take out the middle man represented by insurance companies. That's all, one more choice.

Right now the illegal immigrant in your story is subsidizing insurance company profits. If the same illegal immigrant chose the public option, then those profits go away. Does your friend support subsidizing mega corporations or people? I know, your answer is obviously gonna be corporations.

If by whatever bar is set, the person fell below some income threshold, subsidies or tax credits might begin. But there isn't one bill yet, so who knows, right.

We already ignore sick fellow Americans, it must be so much easier to ignore others. What kind of America do you and your friend want anyway?

Why not just read the parts of the bills in question? Doesn't matter what anyone says about them if it isn't actually in the bills.
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