Highlights From the Religious Right's Anti-Islam Prayer Rally 9/24/09

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Highlights From the Religious Right's Anti-Islam Counter Offensive
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/highlights-religious-rights-anti-islam-counter-offensive

White House and saying that their time has come. :eyes:

I replied to the sender that considering how the Islamic faith and its followers have been demonized so often over the last 8 years, I can see why the President is making this effort. I think it is a thoughtful gesture, much like the one Mr. Bush made when hosting a Ramadan dinner at the White House last year. If we are to expect the citizens of the nation to treat each other better and with respect, then it falls to the leader of the country to set the example.

:crazy: I wonder how many of these leaders truly believe the stuff they are spouting and how many just want to whip of a frenzy of fear to keep their followers hanging on their every word...

be planning a mission to try and convert these Muslims "before its too late". Good luck with that...They have no respect for any other religions nor people who don't maintain one. Conversions usually end up being confrontations... Not good!


P.S: This is NOT a "Christian Nation" !

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/religious-right-mobilizes-fight-muslim-prayer-rally

A few weeks back, we noted that there is a national prayer rally scheduled for Washington, D.C. this weekend that organizers expect to attract tens of thousands to pray for the soul of America. The only difference this time is that the organizers and participants are Muslims, and so of course the Religious Right is upset and voicing concerns.

And so Lou Engle is now rallying his own forces to counter the rally: http://www.charismamag.com/index.php/blogs/712-in-the-news/23416-urgent-call-to-prayer-signs-of-the-times

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This convergence, I believe, is urgently summoning us in the midst of the rising tide of Islamic influence in America to recognize that our God is above every god and that if we return to Him with all of our hearts and call upon Him with fasting and prayer then God could use what the enemy meant for evil to bring about a great day of salvation for Muslims in America.

First of all, we cannot be passive as a Church to let these kinds of developments go on without being challenged in the spirit. Our fight is not against Muslims, it is against principalities, powers, and forces of darkness. We are calling the Church of America at the end of Ramadan, from September 21st through 25th, to five days of concerted prayer ... On Friday, Sept. 25, the Muslim Day of Prayer, we are calling the Church of America to fast and pray that Muslims would be moved by the Holy Spirit, convicted by the testimony of Christ, and even be visited by Jesus in dreams. We must pray that God would restrain the spiritual powers behind Islam and grant us the great awakening that we desperately need for America.

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And the Family Research Council is getting in on the act as well, urging its activists to use the gathering as an opportunity to pray for the conversion of Muslims: http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=WU09I16&f=RF07B06

Muslims are preparing for a Friday gathering on Capitol Hill. Group organizers are touting a possible 50,000 attendees for what they say will be a peaceful assembly for purposes of prayer only. We shall see ... Will any of the expected 50,000 attendees affirm loyalty to the U.S. and our constitutional liberties? Or will they pray for shari'ah law to come to America? Join us in praying that the conversion of Muslims to Christianity would not only continue, but accelerate.

From Islam to Christianity, they are deluded. Most people who have grown up in a religion, unless they have some
kind of major influence that touches them deeply will not convert, just because some one whispers in their ear and tells them they are praying to the "wrong" god(s), goddess or spirits.

In fact, it might be considered an unforgivable insult... one that ends up in possible violent confrontation. You don't walk naked into a wasp's nest carrying and a jar of honey hoping to convert them to Bees.

I won't say it will be violent, (Unless you get some crack pot like you had at the Holocaust museum) But there will be some arguments. Christians can be very aggressive themselves..

You have to remember one thing...this Nation has changed since the last eight years of George W. Bush. We can thank Fox News, Glenn Beck, etc for educating people to be more intolerant. Even the face of Christianity has changed..with more of the Christian "Taliban" demanding their own rules and ethics into the mainstream.

I saw a poster of what "Jesus" would be like, if he was around today. The guy was Caucasian, almost Nordic, (?) wearing a suit and tie, and had a US Marine haircut. He was also wearing a Ronald Reagan campaign button..to my surprise, thus indicating that He was a staunch Republican. Maybe this is the new fundie image of him...

And after all..In Asia, Buddha had many faces.. the statues of the Thai buddha are different then the Buddha
in Japan or China. As the saying goes.."God is made in our own image"

Still, not being Christian... It makes me wonder if people would be upset by this new "Republican Jesus".. as if
the Republican party was claiming him entirely as their own. They, after all tried to steal the US flag and nations symbols for their party as well, as if Democrats didn't have a claim to those precious items.

What is about Republicans that they have to OWN everything? Its kinda like that little rich kid you meet when
your about five or six years old, and they won't let you touch their toys!

when someone does something they consider sacrilege. The xtians may get pissy but no one dies, a significant difference.

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whose actions are often defended here as being cultural, not tied directly to islam. Its also accurate.

Think back to the Danish cartoon riots, which occurred in multiple nations, during which people died. People killed for purportedly desecrating the Koran. The teaching that any apostate must die. Pretty serious stuff. Then there is the lack of outcry against such atrocities. Who denounces the fatwas that are clearly incompatible with human rights and civil rights? Where is the condemnation of the stoning of gays and Baha'is

It is not saying that all muslims are that way, and I am sure most of the ones in the US are good people as you state. But what would have happened if anyone had worn a shirt that had one of the Danish cartoons on it near their rally, or what would have happened if someone waved their shoe at the imam? Unfortunately islam preaches violence at a level that no other major faith comes close to in the modern world. Until it cleans up its act, islam remains the largest threat to humanity of any other major religion.

respect than anywhere else on earth.

The Muslim world comprises one fifth of the human race - most of it in the third world where human conditions are rough, regardless of the dominant religion - so it would not be hard to come up with anecdotal examples when one is dealing with 1.3 billion people scattered throughout dozens of countries and cultures.

Most Middle Eastern cities these days, are modern and cosmopolitan. Most young people have a knowledge and interest in the world that would put most American youth to shame.

What good could possibly come out of berating on fifth of the human race?
The last time there was a major project in the Western world to demonize and marginalize a group of people far smaller, we ended up with millions of people dead and catastrophe that lives in its after effects to this day.

The consequences of an ever antagonist relationship with the world's 1.3 billion people could very well be far, far worse.

The people meeting in Washington D.C. to pray for America represent one of the most positive trends I could imagine among American-Muslims, people who are loyal to America and seek to be make a positive contribution to America. It would seem to be that they should be applauded - not scorned.

or islam will continue its downward spiral. They need to stop the extreme islamists from attempt to extend and exert control on non-muslims. They need to start understanding the right of others must be respected.

The holocaust analogy is specious. No one is setting up ghettos for them or concentration camps. The rest of the world needs them to back off the militancy and come into the 21st century.

I do recall the thread where you appeared to support the extremism of Geert Wilders, so nothing surprises me anymore. You speak of the entire Muslim population being 'kind and generous' as though you think the complete opposite about them. There really is something very wrong with the sort of attitudes you display regularly about Muslims. And before you start with 'but look over there! so and so does it about Christians and Jews!', I want to make one thing very clear. I have nothing but contempt for those who make sweeping negative generalisations about any group of people based on their religion, and don't think someone else doing it excuses you doing it....

What I also find very wrong is yr demand that ordinary Muslims have to do something about Muslim extremists (btw, I recall you saying in another post at DU that there's little to no moderates when it comes to Muslims). You don't demand that ordinary Jews do something about their violent extremists, and even if you did, it's so wrong to demand that only members of a religion have responsibility for dealing with the extremists in their religion. And when it comes to it, there's been much speaking out against Islamic extremists by normal Muslims....

When you're living under a tyrant, whatever the persuasion, it's not that easy to 'speak up and do something'.

The people of Iran HAVE recently attempted to 'speak up and do something' about their regime. Without success as yet, and at considerable risk to themselves.

Same sort of thing goes for the people of China, Burma, and many other non-Muslim dictatorships.

Even in democracies, it's not always as easy as it should be to influence what the people in power do - what about our own countries re the Iraq war?

ETA: if you're referring to ordinary Muslims living in non-Muslim states - plenty of them do speak up. Here's an example of a progressive Muslim organization right on my doorstep:

www.meco.org.uk

Or on anyone.

Anyone who practices violence and oppression in the name of any religion, or for that matter any ideology, is evil.

My country suffered from terrorism and violence from warring Catholic and Protestant groups, based in Northern Ireland but spilling over onto the mainland, for decades. In Europe, by far the most serious atrocities were committed by non-Muslim political/tribal tyrants, from the Nazis and fascists of 70 years ago, through the long tyranny of Stalin, to Milosevic and other war criminals in the former Yugoslavia in the 90s.

Let us condemn ALL violent extremism, whether Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Hindu, or committed by worshippers of the Greek God Zeus, or in the name of any political ideology.

Let's get spiritual and defeat those demons who pray to God differently from us. If we all can just hate enough, Jesus will surely be proud.

Actually I am wondering where the muslim prayers are going to be. Is it on the mall or other large area or is it going to be blocking streets and sidewalks?

Thank you for posting this.

I NEVER knew that God hated me soooo much.

Oh, wait, 'Jesus loves me this I know', 'For the Bible tells me so.'

What are the 'evil' 'others' praying for?

ludicrous doesn't begin cover it

What a bunch of asshats and all the real Christians need to publicly denounce these assholes or understand that their silence is taken as approval.