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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:13 AM
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Bill Maher Real Time: Oct. 9, 2009 ~ Bill Frist Interview
 
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:50 AM
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1. Wherein my head explodes! Frist (winger) pleading with Maher (liberal?) to look at the science
Maher has a whacko side. I'll bet he has that little spot on his shoulder and still argues wholesale against the vaccines. He's just nuts ..
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 12:18 PM
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3. It was like a Colbert skit
Truthiness!
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 05:34 PM
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9. Bill was wrong on the flu
Edited on Sat Oct-10-09 05:35 PM by MadMaddie
The Flu Pandemic of 1918 dropped healthy young soldiers coming back from WWI and many healthy young civilians. It's this kind of talk that leads to people dying for no reason except misinformation. I just read that something like 76 kids have died from this flu.

Frist seems to have gotten some of his common sense back since leaving politics .....I agree with him people should get vaccinated.

(I will not forgive Frist for his Terry Shiavo diagnosis without actually examining her)
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 12:05 PM
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2. Normally,
...I'd enjoy seeing Maher grill Frist, but in this case, I have to side with the former senator. Maher doesn't know what he's talking about. Indeed, his blathering is dangerous.
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 01:54 PM
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4. Tennessee
What a used car salesman. "that's a great question".....blah, blah, blah. What a jerk off.

Is this ass hole still in Congress? What an embarrassment.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 03:44 PM
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5. I thought Bill's discussion with Frist on health care
in this country was right on - Frist had trouble defending some of his positions. I would rather see the evidence on the swine flu and I would also like to ask Frist who funded the studies that he says proved that the science of the vaccine was safe and prevented the disease. I do not regularly read the NEJM and do not have the time - would like some more definitive explanation of the science. I find doctors to be patronizing to the rest of us outside the medical field. Maher could have asked better questions but I don't think he was wrong for questioning Frist.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:10 PM
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11. The science shows vaccines' success in building antibodies is dramatically declining.
Vaccines have actually advanced the kind of rapid adaptation of viruses we have been witnessing for decades. They are a sword with the edged side hurting humankind.

It would be better to invest in treatments to assist humans' immune defense with something other than the actual viruses attacking the system. I am not saying I know what that is,...but, clearly, vaccinations and immunizations are showing serious consequences to our health in the long term.
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 03:46 PM
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6. Weird that I found myself agreeing with Frist more than Maher.
On the vaccination issue, Maher is on the crazy side. You can always find anecdotes of people hurt by vaccines. But the data is firmly on vaccination's side. Polio and smallpox don't happen here anymore. They used to kill thousands every year. Smallpox killed more people in the 20th century than war, and there were some pretty good size wars in that century. Now smallpox kills nobody.

Maher's opposition to vaccination is actively dangerous. Some years ago, polio was on the verge of being wiped out in Nigeria. Then someone started a rumor that America had poisoned polio vaccines in order to kill Muslims. Thousands of Muslims died . . . from not getting vaccinated. Polio came roaring back, and the program to eradicate polio lost ten years of progress.

Something similar happened in Scandinavia. Somebody got a lot of press saying pertussis (whooping cough) vaccine was dangerous. Many parents refused to get their kids vaccinated. Pertussis cases increased tremendously, causing far more sickness and death than the vaccine.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 04:15 PM
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7. Frist was weak
in his defense of health care in this country. He said he didn't support the public option but he didn't explain what reforms he was in favor of.

I would like to see the swine flu evidence debated. I don't believe that just because some doctor tells me that 'studies support this' that the studies are necessarily objective and without bias. Who funds these studies? The corporate investments in our institutions of higher learning ares powerful incentive to support the scientific conclusions that benefit those same corporations.
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rexcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 04:35 PM
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8. Bill Maher is an typical anti-vaccine idiot...
Ignore the science and play to the stupid!
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 07:41 PM
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12. Maher doesn't "believe" in vaccines
I wonder if he believes in the germ "theory" of disease?
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Beacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:49 PM
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13. He's actually stated he doesn't accept germ theory
Ironically he used the same logic of the Creationists that he's made a living mocking and doesn't realize it. He even uses a version of 'Darwin recanted on his deathbed' gambit regarding Louis Pasteur.

"I don't believe in vaccination either. That's a... well, that's a... what? That's another theory that I think is flawed, that we go by the Louis Pasteur theory, even though Louis Pasteur renounced it on his own deathbed and said that Beauchamp(s) was right: it's not the invading germs, it's the terrain. It's not the mosquitoes, it's the swamp that they are breeding in."

From Real Time, March 4th, 2005

That's right the same fucking theory of 'bad air' (aka 'Miasma') that went out with the theories of phlogiston and the four body humors


At least with Creationists, their lunacy doesn't get anyone killed via their disinformation. He's no better than that other imbecile, Jenny MacCarthy

Jenny MacCarthy Body Count

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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 07:59 PM
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10. Wasn't this the congress-critter that testified on Congress floor, Shiavo was still cognizant?
Maybe, he's trying to earn back his ticket to heaven, or something.

I am just sayin', after his spectacularly brazen bullshit for political manipulation, he will have to do decades of real "service" before he has any credibility, whatsoever, with me.

Until then, Frist can still go to hell, as far as I am concerned (and his being a doctor or former congress-critter does NOT dictate my respect for him).
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:04 AM
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14. He really trashed the NHS. nt
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