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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 07:26 AM
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BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving Police Encounters
 
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1. I do not consent to ANY searches.
2. Am I free to go?
3. I have nothing to say until I speak with my lawyer.

Be courteous. Do not lie. Do not violently resist.
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Wiccan Warrior Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 08:06 AM
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1. EVERYONE should see this EVEN IN SCHOOL.n/t
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 10:30 AM
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2. Great vid. Thanks for posting it. n/t
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 12:50 PM
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3. EXCELLENT
Should be required viewing for all.
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GETPLANING Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 01:59 PM
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4. Good video
But if cops want to search your vehicle, they will keep you there all day until they can figure out some excuse that gives them cause or a Judge gives them a warrant.
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Wiccan Warrior Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 07:08 AM
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8. I had a cop do that to me
as well kept me there for half an hour wanting me to give up, but at 3am. what Judge is going to want to be woke up for a car search? really?
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 03:16 PM
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5. It underestimates the willingness of some cops to resort to violence to get
Edited on Sat Jul-07-07 03:17 PM by tblue37
their way and prove their power, and then to cover up their lawbreaking after the fact. It also underestimates the willingness of "good" cops to help their bad colleagues cover up what they have done.

But even if the bad cops get nailed for what they do to you, it won't matter if you are seriously injured or even killed during the encounter.

We live in a police state. Obviously it's not as bad as it was for Germans under Nazi rule or for Soviet citizens under the KGB, but it's pretty bad nonetheless, especially compared to the past when for many people (not minorities, of course) cops were the people one turned to for help and protection.

Did you read about the 70-year-old woman who was manhandled and injured when a cop wanted to arrest her for not watering her lawn? Sure, the cop got suspended, she was released and no charges were filed against her. But she still got hurt and ended up in jail, and she was still traumatized by the whole ordeal. I think it is pure luck that her injuries were not more severe.

I have a whole collection of news articles about cops beating, Tasering, and otherwise abusing the old, the infirm, and even very young children. You might remember the boy who was abused at Berkely because he either didn’t have or wouldn’t show his ID card to the library security cop. He was trying to leave the library (in obedience to the cop’s original demand) when they assaulted him. When another student questioned the cops’ assault on the boy, the second student was threatened with Tasering, too.

No matter what happens after the encounter with the cops, merely surviving the encounter is iffy, and unless you suck up and bow and scrape and do everything the cops demand, you could end up severely injured or dead.

This is what it has always been like for minorities in the US. Now middle class whites are beginning to have the same sorts of experiences.
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Phrogman Donating Member (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 06:52 PM
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6. You are absolutely right, in the US cops are not "your friend".....
any I have, and I have known others, that have declined a voluntary search and have gotten searched anyway.

The minute you tell an American cop he doesn't have permission to search your car, you have absolutely guaranteed that your car WILL be searched. And you will be busted for anything you had, and you ain't gonna be able to do a gawd damn thing about it.

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Wiccan Warrior Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 07:09 AM
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9. SMART people would be able to avoid anything you just
have to know how to do it.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:19 AM
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7. Kick.
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ronhardy Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:57 AM
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10. JFK Head In Trunk
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 08:58 AM by ronhardy
I wouldn't give a shit if you had JFK's head in your trunk, under no circumstances do you E-V-E-R- consent to a police search for ANY reason! As long as you REFUSE, DENY, AND JUST SAY NO to a police officer's request to search your vehicle, you can beat the rap in court EVEN IF the cop searching your vehicle finds JFK's head in your trunk! There's a little something called the "Plain View Doctrine (or something similarly named) in most states which says a police officer can ONLY search your car IF there are drugs or weapons in "plain view," or visible evidence of a crime having been committed.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:27 PM
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11. Yes, never give permission
even if they decide to get a warrant, it could be found faulty.

if you give permission, it cannot be revoked.
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