Rep. Dennis Kucinich on Health Care Ed Show - State single payer stripped from bill

Run time: 09:06 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP2rpbwn02M   Posted on YouTube: October 29, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: October 29, 2009 By DU Member: slipslidingaway Views on DU: 1056

 
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6880388&mesg_id=6880388

by David Swanson

"Healthcare Hoax from Hell

Lies, damn lies, and promises from Democrats. An amendment allowing states to create state-level single-payer healthcare has been stripped out of the House healthcare bill, after having passed in committee back in July by a vote of 27 to 19. And rumor has it that a vote on national single-payer that was promised in July in exchange for skipping a committee vote on it will now be denied.

First, the state single-payer amendment.

Back in July, the House Committee on Education and Labor did something right, something that could have made all the difference in the world to millions of Americans. Congressman Dennis Kucinich introduced in the committee an amendment that would have effectively allowed states to improve on our healthcare system if they chose to, allowed them to create state-level single-payer healthcare. There are bills to do this in several state legislatures already. Such a bill has passed and been vetoed in California twice, where a change in governor is imminent.

President Obama told the committee chairman, George Miller, to oppose Kucinich's amendment, and he did so, leading off the voting with a resounding "No." But the Democrats voted 14 to 14 with one member passing and two failing to vote. And the Republicans voted 13 to 5 with one member failing to vote. That added up to 27 yes votes and 19 no votes. Some Republicans may have voted yes simply because the chairman voted no, but they said they were voting yes for states' rights. And that would be a sensible, decent, and constitutional position. Why shouldn't states be permitted to do better, as well as worse, than Washington, even if the insurance companies bring in less blood money? ..."

passed by 2 to one, and was removed because?
I just lost ANY confidence I had left.

But we have individual mandates, no negotiation on drugs for Medicare, the data exclusivity provision that Bio wanted, rates negotiated separately for providers by regions and an option that will not available to everyone.

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California the campaign is ready rolling and would pass. The citizens WANT single payer. How dare they?

amendment passed with a large majority in committee.

in which the data used to make the biologic does not have to be shared with anyone. They run concurrently, but can essentially sit on the data for 12 years. This provision was passed by in the House and Senate bills, a few senators voted against the amendment...Harkin, Sanders and Brown.

The Biotech Index (BTK) went up 16% in one day as these amendments were approved back in July.

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Links in thread below...

"Sen. Tom Harkin: Keep in mind what we’re talking about here. We’re not talking about patents. Everybody gets a 20 year patent… What we’re talking about here is data, data exclusivity… How do you get that data? You get it through FDA supervised trials… Where do they do those clinical trials? Academic health centers. Who supports academic health centers? Our taxpayers… When should that data be released so that another company out there, some other entrepreneurs, can look at the data and say… I’ll bet if we changed this and did this, we might come up with a new formulation that might actually help something else. They’re still going to have to go through their clinical trials… At least they’ll be able to look at the data. If you don’t do that that means that the company can sit on that data for 12 years. Then they let the data out. Clinical trials will take another 7 years or more, so you’re going to have at least a whole 20 year run in there… before anyone can ever surface with anything even comparable to what that drug or that biologic is..."


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6848443&mesg_id=6848443

"The question before Waxman's committee last summer was this: How many years of monopoly protection should be afforded to biotechnology drugs, known as biologics, before cheaper alternatives are allowed on the market? These miraculous drugs — which differ from traditional, chemical-based pharmaceuticals because they are derived from living matter — are widely regarded as the future of the pharmaceutical industry and, indeed, of medicine itself. While only 20% of drugs on the market today are biologics, it is expected that, with 633 biotechnology medicines in development last year for more than 100 diseases, half the new drugs approved in 2015 will be. Biologics average more than 20 times the cost of traditional drugs: treating breast cancer with a year's worth of the biologic Herceptin can cost $48,000; Remicade, for rheumatoid arthritis, can cost $20,000 annually. For other, rarer diseases, the price of biologic treatments can be as high as $200,000 a year..."


More here...

FDL - Are You Or Someone You Know Paying $50,000 A Year For Drugs?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6866481&mesg_id=6866481

"...But young medical and public health students across the country feel their hands are being tied as healers of the future, and they are coming out in protest. Eric Butter, a biostatistics major at UNC, led one of many such protests around the country last week.

“It is a really important issue that might not affect us now, but 10 years down the road it will be huge,” Butter said..."


and here...

Senate HELP amendment on "data exclusivity"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6164248&mesg_id=6165037

and has there been any coverage on the liberal cable shows.

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that they aren't!

only one thing they forget..WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE FUCKING BOSSES...and their asses can be sent the fuck home!

purchase insurance most Democrats would be screaming...but now it is OK.

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