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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:04 PM
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TYT: Cenk's Heated On-Air Debate w/ Conservative On Muslims!
Edited on Fri Nov-13-09 12:07 PM by ihavenobias
 
Run time: 06:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6je4QqZedo
 
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Posted on DU: November 13, 2009
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Summary: Keep in mind the above video is just a few excerpts from a 21 minute segment where Cenk debated conservative commentator Joy Tiz (you'll be amused by ) after her Ft. Hood inspired piece, which was a little different thank Cenk's piece on the topic (featured on the front page of both DU and DailyKos this week), '. BTW, if someone has time to do a full transcript of the full interview (or any interview on TYT Interviews), please email tytjobs@gmail.com. Note: After you watch Cenk's debate, check out .

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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:12 PM
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1. K&R
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:38 PM
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6. Don't forget to vote for TYT from today through 11/30/09! (We can't let Rush win)
Yes, I'm referring to what I put in the message body, but a surprising number of people probably still won't see it.

http://tinyurl.com/yf6ulw3
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 07:56 PM
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21. voted!
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 11:33 PM
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23. Awesome! BTW, I just found out there is ANOTHER award you can vote on...
Edited on Fri Nov-13-09 11:34 PM by ihavenobias
There is one other potential award that TYT could win, if nominated. It's through Mashable's 3rd Annual Open Web Awards where (despite us not asking anyone to vote) The Young Turks is in the top 10 for Best Political News Site. At any rate, the voting started weeks ago but I believe it ends Sunday night. You can vote twice a day, once with your Twitter account and once with your Facebook account.

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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:19 PM
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2. K&R n/t
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:20 PM
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3. K and R.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:27 PM
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4. She is a tiresome IDIOT.
I could only take a few minutes of her idiocy.

Good for Cenk! I felt like punching her!

K&R

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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 05:39 PM
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17. Ha, ha...I guess that means you don't have the patience for the full 21 minute debate (link here)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 06:30 PM
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19. Um, that would be HELL NO!
The three minutes I did listen to nearly drove me over the fucking edge, lol!

:P
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:29 PM
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5. Wow she is stupid n/t
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:40 PM
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7. "Joy Tiz, quoted by Ann Coulter, as heard on Lou Dobbs radio,..."
Kinda says it all. What a nut case.

K&R!

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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 07:19 PM
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38. Yeah, that caught my eye too. n/t
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 12:40 PM
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8. K&R Looking forward to hearing the full exchange n/t
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 01:01 PM
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9. Frustrating Dingbat
How does Cenk stay so calm?
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rickford66 Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 01:12 PM
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10. her own facts
7 million Muslims in the entire world??? How could you accept anything she says?
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 01:21 PM
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11. K&R
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 01:28 PM
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12. Oh this is sweet!
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 01:45 PM
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13. Just another wing nut.....just another day.
Once again...we see a total bimbo butt head that bloviates bull shit through her mouth and the written word, and there are enough phobic, shit-lappers to keep her in business. she thinks there are 7 million Muslims worldwide...oh, maybe there are more??

Jesus...why did you make OUR NATION so f*cking stupid? How can this nation, this ONCE GREAT NATION of leaders and innovators be so saturated with dumb ass, moronic, phobia spewing idiots as this dumb bitch??? Why did you forsake us? Is this how Rome fell? I seriously don't think so, but possibly? The nation just went stupid??

I'm ashamed to be American at times like this. We truly are a sick nation. I have such ZERO respect for the right wing nut balls. They are our cancer.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 02:44 PM
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14. What a piece of shit!
Edited on Fri Nov-13-09 02:55 PM by Enthusiast
I can't stand these RW propagandists.

Her world, the world she advocates for, bears a strong resemblance to 1930s Germany where minorities could be abused and attacked. This is a world without "political correctness". Like Limbaugh, she wants to use inflammatory words like nigger, spic and fag on the radio. These propagandists have already made "liberal" a dirty word. They demonize anyone that doesn't embrace the "Party Line", their party line. Just listen to Limbaugh and wait for the unfortunate fool(ditto head caller)that says the wrong thing. Limbaugh abuses them worse than a hated liberal.

As far as I'm concerned Cenk was far too cordial with her.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 03:24 PM
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15. What is this, "diversity in extreme"? Me don't get it.n/t
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 03:37 PM
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16. K&R
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MrObama Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 05:39 PM
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18. K&R - LOL She's An Idiot!
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 06:31 PM
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20. K&R. Nobody is better on this than Cenk is!
And he's got my vote, too... :thumbsup:
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 09:15 PM
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22. k & r
.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 11:56 PM
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24. K&R
What a condescending little twit.
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tempelton1 Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 12:58 AM
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25. Cenk handled that ignoramus beautifully :)
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 02:22 AM
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26. k*r Amazing
I'm so amazed that it became cool to be stupid in this country. Nice job Cenk.
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TommyPaine Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 04:08 AM
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27. 7 million Muslims worldwide?
Such ignorance immediately invalidates any arguments this woman makes. Just laughable.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 04:39 AM
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29. maybe in the US. how clueless of this person to say worldwide. that just ends the debate for me,ha
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 04:27 AM
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28. when conservatives think someone who thinks there are only 7 million Muslims in the world is an
expert on radical Islam - well, what can we say?
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 08:37 AM
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30. It's another example of where they don't use logic and facts in their arguments.
They just throw anything out there, knowing that a percentage of the listeners will believe it.

I think it often puts their opponents at a disadvantage. Whenever debating someone, you try to anticipate some or all of their major talking points so you can rebut it with facts and data. Often, these radical conservatives will throw out something so off-the-wall ridiculous you can't rebut it, and because of it, they often scored points in the debate in the eyes of some.
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 09:44 AM
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31. People actually think this way. Really. She's just 80% bigot and 20% stupid.
They substitute bigotry for reasoning.

Except, of course, when their own lives depend on logical thinking.
Then their IQ immediately jumps 50 points (to about 80).

I find it fascinating. So it appears that we actually CAN
"reason" with such people, but only when their lives
depend on them engaging in rational and critical thinking.

There is only one hope.
A maze. We need to design a sophisticated human maze
that requires logical thinking at IQ 80 to get through!
The reward: Those that make it through, can procreate.

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Stellar Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 11:47 AM
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32. That pig face heifer!
She doesn't seem to know the difference between *extreme* Muslim or just a Muslim. Maybe she doesn't want to know the difference.
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 04:00 PM
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33. K&R.
Edited on Sat Nov-14-09 04:01 PM by 20score
Have to listen to the rest of the debate now.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 10:26 PM
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34. People who use the word "stipulate" more than once every couple years and
are not attorneys really bug the shit out of me.

nice of her to "stipulate" there are 1.5 billion muslims in the world.
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 10:39 PM
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35. kicked n/t
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 01:49 AM
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36. I would have recommended this if I'd seen this in time, so here's a kick n/t
Edited on Sun Nov-15-09 01:50 AM by Violet_Crumble
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 10:48 AM
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37. Oh, no- you blew your cover here Liz!
Edited on Mon Nov-16-09 10:50 AM by Kajsa
" Seven million Muslims in the world"

Ah- NO- you're off by a few billion.

WTH? Did Cenk even know what an ignorant dingbat
she was beforehand?

I don't think so.

I recommended this on Friday.

:kick:
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 08:44 PM
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39.  Major Hasan Sought War Crimes Prosecution of U.S. Soldiers
Major Nidal Hasan's military superiors repeatedly ignored or rebuffed his efforts to open criminal prosecutions of soldiers he claimed had confessed to "war crimes" during psychiatric counseling, according to investigative reports circulated among federal law enforcement officials.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/officials-major-hasan-sought-war-crimes-prosecution-us/story?id=9019904

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4148620&mesg_id=4148620


....
But a counterterrorism analyst who examined the messages shortly after they were sent decided that they were consistent with AUTHORIZED research Major Hasan was conducting and did not alert his military superiors.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/us/15hasan.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

....
From March to May this year, Major Hasan was sent back to work in an inpatient psychiatric ward at Walter Reed in what colleagues saw as a remedial stint. Lt. Eric Notkin, a nurse, often joined him on rounds, seeing many patients who had been evacuated from Iraq or Afghanistan after suicide threats or attempts.

....
“The worst we saw were the patients who had shot themselves in the head or face and survived,” Lieutenant Notkin said. “They’d be stabilized and come to us.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/us/15hasan.html?pagewanted=3&_r=1
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