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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:15 AM
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Human Rights Day 2009 in Minneapolis Waiting for Justice (of torture)
 
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Please watch this at least 1/2 through and there is great speech at the end.

This group in Minneapolis, has been protesting St. Thomas law professor Robert Delahunty who was a co-author of the torture memos.

But when the group was alerted that there is a statue of limitations on prosecuting those who authored, ordered, and participated in torture.

different members in this group have been protesting out front of the Federal court house every work day around the noon hour.

Sen Franken is on the Judicary and Human Rights committee.
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youmayberight Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:54 AM
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1. Senate Judiciay Human Rights and the Law Subcommittee hearing
This Wednesday, the Human Rights and the Law Subcommittee of the Senate Judiciary Committee is holding its first-ever hearing on implementation of already-ratified human rights treaties. Any written statements can be sent to Heloisa at Heloisa_Griggs@Judiciary-dem.senate.gov . Any statements received by December 14 will be entered into the record at the hearing but the record will be kept open for a week after the hearing for additional statements. Please write.
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 06:48 PM
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7. thanks for the info.
if Minnesotans take the time and energy to stand out in the freezing wind and cold.....
you would think the news would cover it.

We are such a nation that tortures.
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Coleen Rowley Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:50 AM
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2. Human Rights Activists to Vigil at U.S. Courthouse every weekday
Volunteers are needed to conduct a daily "waiting for justice" vigil at the U.S. Courthouse in Minneapolis. If you're interested, contact us at Tacklingtorture@gmail.com Please joing the "Tackling Torture at the Top" group on Facebook but there's not much posted yet there as the page was just begun.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 12:10 PM
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3. Thanks for posting Ann, that was I great event and I was proud to take part
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Redwoodhippie Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:13 PM
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4. Thank you for calling out for accountability for torture.
Thanks to all who participated in this event to bring attention to the need to have some accountability for the crimes committed related to torture in the last eight years. If we are to have a society of laws then everyone who ordered, enabled, encouraged, or participated in torture needs to be held to account with prosections. This is especially true for those at the top to clarify that they are not above the law.
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tb1988 Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:37 PM
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5. Great action!!!
I will try to make it once a week - there has to be accountability for torture!
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MNmom Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 04:09 PM
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6. If no one is held accountable,
it will happen again and again! Torture in our name is not acceptable!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:27 PM
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14. If the statue runs out, will torture become an accepted method for investigations in this country?
If we all "condone" torture by permitting the statue of limitations to expire, then how long before torture becomes standard method for US police departments conducting investigations on US citizens?
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 06:50 PM
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8. Please send this video to your Represntatives
And Post any one else we should contact
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:02 AM
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9. Sen Al Franken, What is he doing to restore Justice ?
Folks,

Senator Franken sits on this subcommittee. So may I suggest that anything you send to the subcommittee, you also send or cc to Senator Franken. I don't have an email address for him other than through his website http://franken.senate.gov/ or for scheduling a meeting with him. Or consider even calling his office: 651-212-1016, 202-224-5641. He has not been good on torture issues. Since July 2, 2009, when he was sworn in, I have called his office about 20 times, trying to get someone simply to say the Senator supports the prosecution of torturers. I have had no success in that endeavor.

Chuck
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:09 AM
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10. Wed 12/16 Judiciary Subcommittee to hold hearing on .... (torture)
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 12:15 AM by annm4peace
" The Law of the Land: U.S. Implementation of Human Rights Treaties "

Most of you are probably aware of this upcoming Senate Judiciary Subcommittee hearing, but for those of you who are not, I enclose the following information.


This hearing will consider implementation of already-ratified human rights treaties. Please, please submit a statement from you or your group's perspective.

Link to the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee.
Please email this video and what other info you wan to those on the Subcommittee

http://judiciary.senate.gov/about/subcommittees/humanrights.cfm

link to the date and time hearing
http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/

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Here is what Chuck wrote;

Senate Judiciary Committee
Subcommittee on Human Rights and the Law

Dear Committee Members:

"We have met the enemy and he is us." That is the first thing that came to my mind when I heard your subcommittee was holding a hearing to examine United States implementation of ratified human rights treaties. My comments will only be with respect to the Convention Against Torture.

As you know, the United States ratified the United Nations Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (CAT) in 1994. That same year, implementing legislation was passed in the form of a Federal Torture Statute (18 U.S.C. Secs. 2340 and 2340A-B). I shall raise two issues concerning the implementation of CAT.

First, it is not clear to me why the statute limits the torture to acts committed "outside the United States" (18 U.S.C. Sec. 2340A (a)). Nothing in the treaty suggests this type of implementing legislation. To rely on states to implement the treaty by passing their own torture statutes to cover their respective jurisdictions is to abnegate the responsibilities of the United States -- the signatory and ratifier of CAT -- under the clear terms of the treaty.

Second, and of greater import, the well-known Pogo quotation above is right on point in describing the actions -- and lack of action -- of members of your subcommittee and the Senate Judiciary Committee as a whole.

The official policy of "legalizing," authorizing, ordering and committing torture began in 2002. The eight-year federal statute of limitations will soon begin to expire on these crimes, yet not one single person has been charged. The coming year is crucial if we are really serious about implementing the CAT. If not, we are about to become a nation that officially sanctions torture.

Make no mistake about it, we have tortured people. The evidence is overwhelming. Major General Antonio Taguba wrote in a 2008 preface to a "Physicians for Human Rights" report that "the Commander-in-Chief and those under him authorized a systematic regime of torture." FBI interrogator, Ali Soufan, reported "borderline torture" to his superiors in Washington. Judge Susan Crawford, the convening authority for the Guantanamo military commissions, said earlier this year, "We tortured Qahtani. His treatment met the legal definition of torture. And that's why I did not refer the case ." (The Washington Post, January 14, 2009).

As you know, under the CAT, it is no justification for torture that the perpetrator acting in an official capacity was seeking information, was inflicting punishment, or was merely attempting to intimidate those being torture. (CAT, Article 1).

The CAT also requires President Obama and Attorney General Holder to investigate allegations where there is a "reasonable ground to believe that an act of torture has been committed." (CAT, Article 12). So far, with respect to this issue, neither of them seems to recognize we are a nation of laws.

The Senate Judiciary Committee has oversight responsibility for the Justice Department. Your committee should be insisting that Attorney General Holder make it a priority to investigate and prosecute these serious and credible allegations of torture and conspiracy to torture. In attempting to avoid Constitutional applications to the detainees, e.g., habeus corpus, the Bush Administration frequently argued the detainees were outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States. That is precisely where the Federal Torture Statute's jurisdiction lies. Furthermore, when it comes to conspiracy to torture, the conspiracy need not have occurred outside the United States. (18 U.S.C. Sec. 2340A (c). This statute is eminently enforceable, and it boggles the mind to try to explain why no prosecutions have occurred thus far.

With respect to the implementation of the Convention Against Torture, your subcommittee need only look inward, not outward. Pogo was right: "We have met the enemy and he is us."

Sincerely,

Chuck
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:13 AM
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11. contact MN U.S. Attorney for the District of MN.
B. Todd Jones is the U.S. Attorney for the District of Minnesota. His name is B. Todd Jones. Their website says you can only email them regarding the website itself,
but it's here: http://www.justice.gov/usao/mn/

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Redwoodhippie Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:53 PM
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13. Letter could be transformed into a petition
Chuck your excellent letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee could be put into a petition form and posted on www.petitionspot.com and/or another petition site.
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:03 AM
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12. Please DU'ers we need your help
with one of the "torture memo" authors teaching here in MN... it makes Sen Franken a better target to try and make Congress call for prosecution of the tortures.

But we need your help to put pressure on him.

Many of us in the Peace and Social justice community will be writing him, and others have gone to his office, and protested there also.. but it hasn't been enough.. we need your help.
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