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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 10:20 PM
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American against American, government orders.
 
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Barack Obama is now allowing troops and other government agencies to target and kill suspected Americans that are linked with terrorist organizations. Matthis Chiroux joins Lauren Lyster and says although this was not started with this current administration, the government now has an unchecked ability to assassinate US citizens, with no judicial process.
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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 10:25 PM
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1. Saddening
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 10:56 PM
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2. Frightening.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 11:27 PM
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3. They make it sound like a bad thing
just don't call it a broken promise.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 12:00 AM
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4. I had a cop scream at me, that I was the american terrorist, and he could send me to guantanamo.
He said that since the Patriot Act, he could send me to Gitmo. I laughed. He was not amused. Fucking nazi.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 01:16 AM
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5. Trained by Xe aka blackwater no doubt. n/t
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 01:31 AM
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6. It is completely unconstitutional.
Compare being gunned down in a foreign country to DUE PROCESS. Not quite the same is it.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:32 AM
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7. The Constitution is not proving to be quite the obstacle we thought it once was
What we do to those least able to defend themselves will follow us home.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 05:36 PM
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9. The con. only protects you in court. As to thwarting tyranny, NOT.
When they deny my con 14th, they do as they will, cuz they didnt expect to get stymied. I twisted them in semantical knots.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:16 PM
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10. Share more. I want to hear more of the story. Did you post it already?
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:39 PM
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11. I have MaNY stories.
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 06:51 PM by Gman2
One, is how a guy that tried to cause a pileup, on purpose, on the freeway, I followed. Till the punk got scared and called police. I had no cell, so wnated it. The cops made a funnel. I pulled up, and started telling them what he had done. They called me a vigilante. They said that since the Patriot Act, he could declare me a terrorist. I scoffed,and laughed. He so much didnt appreciate it, that I Let them off the hook, after telling them they were less than useless. They let him go ahead, so I wouldnt take his head off.

Another story is, I was awakened at midnight, to pounding and doorbell. Open the door, after seeing a badge thru the peep. For cops, guns drawn and pointed. They said that I had to let them in. They said I was beating a woman. I finally said that I cannot stop them physically, so do what they had come to do. They freaked. Noone has done that. They KNEW they were on notice. I am a me marijuana patient, and grow. They slapped handcuffs on, and started searching. They made RUDE right wing comments, and I went off. I had two cops with me, and I schooled them in md mar, as they said they were entirely clueless. I ran their right wing shit right down. Finally, they said they had taken pics, and needed one of me, then I could get back to sleep.This, after one of the pigs asked me who I had in my crawlspace. I said noone. He asked again. I said Jimmy Hoffa. He said, OK smart ass, that entitles me to search there. They were tyrannical pigs on holiday. It was a lark for them.


I also got one of those same substation pigs in BIG trouble. They were running a scam ticketing operation. I fought it in court. The crooked judge convicted me, after I tore the pigs testimony apart. The judge made comments that were verbatim, the same as the pigs on the street. They had colluded. I appealed. They wouldnt help me on how. I wrote that they had a mordida scheme going, that is when in mexico, they pull you over, and offer a head pounding and jail, or all your money. The AG tore their shit apart. That could be why the scam search. This was a MADE UP LAW, a scam.
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 09:10 AM
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8. I think it leaves out a lot of nuance to the situation. The ways it's described is very inflmatroy..
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 09:12 AM by ProgressOnTheMove
It's not an ideal situation, but if someone who has become radicalized with US citizenship but maybe afghan roots ends up in combat this might occur. But to phrasing just killing Americans indescrimately is kind of dangerous. Sure there is an issue but I wouldn't want to feed into Beck paranoia too. Coming to get our guns and grandma.
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