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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 09:39 AM
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Cop turns off camera & beats up female
 
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Cops excuse? She beat herself up.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 09:47 AM
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1. The attorney for the cop should be embarrassed...
... That story he gave was ridiculous. He looked like he could barely keep a straight face.

I hope she sues that cop in civil court. And the city, for ever hiring him.

TYY
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 09:53 AM
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6. Yes. This is the vid they should play when it's asked why people hate lawyers.
What a disgusting situation.

And I'm sure Rush and Glenn are ready to take the cop's side.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:50 AM
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124. No...The lawyer is following the Law...Everybody (yes everybody)
is entitled to a defense...That's simply the system..How many possiblilities did this jackass cop leave the lawyer?
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 03:24 PM
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131. Wow. I didn't know lawyers were required by law to talk to the press. Thanks. n/t
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 03:40 PM
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132. Wow. Are you sure you're
not STILL a Dittohead?....Sounds like you've kept the same degree of pleasantry.:eyes:

As for hating lawyers, yeah..Everyone hates lawyers..until they need one.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 02:12 PM
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143. I'm sure there's no law that says they have to.
But if he's a good lawyer, and if he respects the oath he has taken, he would do anything and everything he can, within the law, to defend his client.

That's the American way, bubba - EVERYONE is entitled to a good defense. At least in theory...
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:37 PM
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147. You know what? The video is edited so much I really don't know what the lawyer said.
Because if it WASN'T edited, what he said was one lie after the other, and lying is NOT a "defense".

It's not the right of a defendant to have his lawyer lie ("the defendant got those bruises from falling") for him. It's my understanding that the rules of law say lawyers aren't allowed to lie in court.

But because the video was edited so much, he could have interjected so many weasel words which were later edited out, I have no real idea what he actually said.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 12:21 AM
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154. Don't misunderstand me...
I think he's guilty as sin, and that poor drunk woman probably wasn't the first female he beat up on.

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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:52 AM
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125. He probably is.....Defense lawyers don't always get to "pick and choose"
their clients and some of them hate them as much as the general public.
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quark219 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 09:50 AM
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2. Good God. [N/T]
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 09:51 AM
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3. POS Cops!
K&R
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 09:52 AM
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4. It was something that needed to be handled internally? Bullshit
It is a total cover up.

The gal probably was wrong in resisting as much as she did. But the police officer has no right to beat the crap out of her. There is no way she could have suffered those injuries by falling as they state.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 09:52 AM
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5. She clearly fell.
Clearly.



Clearly.



(Do I need a sarcasm smiley.)
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 12:39 PM
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42. lol
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 09:53 AM
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7. As usual we do not have the full story.
It's too bad that the policeman turned off the video. If it had shown that she fell, he would have been cleared. If he truly beat her up he should be prosecuted. We can have our own opinions but in the end we will not know what really happened.
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BakedAtAMileHigh Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 09:55 AM
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9. riiiiiight
We'll never know. :eyes:
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #7
35. Forgot the meds today, huh?
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 01:48 PM
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49. But we DO FUCKING KNOW the ass hole turned off the camera.............
.........Wake the fuck up!
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 07:12 PM
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65. Did you actually watch the video?
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 07:16 PM by Incitatus
I'll save you some time, go to 2:09 and tell me that was just from a fall.
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DesertDiamond Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 09:55 PM
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72. Sure! Maybe he turned off the camera so there would be no evidence she beat herself up?
Yes!! That makes sense!!!
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #7
74. There isn't a facepalm picture big enough. n/t
n/t
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 01:05 AM
Response to Reply #7
102. sorry people just don't get that beat up
from a fall. She wasn't on a wall or something. Look at the pool of blood on the floor.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 03:07 AM
Response to Reply #102
114. Well, to hear Duh-byuh tell it,
he got beat up pretty bad by a rug after fallling a foot off the sofa during his infamous battle with the killer pretzel.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 09:55 AM
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8. The thing that gets me is that she is in the police station screaming and no one comes in.
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 09:56 AM by Jim__
If the cop was screaming, there would have been 10 cops in that room instantly. To me, that's the problem with police brutality. No matter what they say about what percentage of cops are involved, they all accept when other cops do it.
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hmorehead Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:12 AM
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14. Then why are you defending this piece of shit? This guy needs to be put in jail. For a LONG time.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:19 AM
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18. Where am I defending anyone? - n/t
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hmorehead Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #18
68. I meant for the twit below you called us cop bashers. sorry.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:01 AM
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10. Cop bashing.
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 10:29 AM by OneTenthofOnePercent
Do you know what it's like to be in their shoes and deal with the threats and stress!
Morning keyboard commandoing, all. Decisions have to be amde and there is no time to waffle.
The important thing here is the cop went home at the end of the day (safely) to his family.

... Cop Bashers.

edit:
man, the poutrage knob must cranked to 11 today.
Do people really need a sarcasm gif to read between the lines? :eyes:
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hmorehead Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:13 AM
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15. see above.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:25 AM
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22. Check your sarcasm meter.
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Mumblefratz Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:30 AM
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27. Sorry if your intent was indeed sarcasm ...
however you should give folks some kind of hint like ending in /sarcasm or even a winky emoticon.

There was nothing in your original reply that indicated that you were just being sarcastic.
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hmorehead Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 08:29 PM
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69. OH and calling us cop bashers was reasonable.
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hmorehead Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #22
127. And please check your own gross exageration and foundationless accusation meter. Cop basher, indeed.
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nyc 4 Biden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:18 AM
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17. that cop i would love to bash.
just like any other large group of individuals there are some good and some bad, but with someone is in a position of authority and trusted with the security of our citizens there should be outrage when they abuse that authority. And I dont want to hear about stress, you know what to expect taking a law enforcement job, if you cant handle the stress and have to beat up unarmed, handcuffed women every once in a while to let out steam, you need to be held accountable.
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hmorehead Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 08:30 PM
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70. That cop needs a little cop bashing and a complmentry tasering.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:23 AM
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21. I would love a chance to really bash a couple of the mutherfuckers.
Are you a fucking pig yourself? Why else would you defend this kind of shit?

Oh yeah, it really looked like he was threatened. Thank Dog he made it home safely. :rofl:

I hate fucking pigs. I always will. :mad:
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:34 AM
Response to Reply #21
29. I am not a cop.
I do enjoy subtle sarcasm though.

IMO, this officer should be thrown in jail for aggravated felonious assault.
The inmates of the jail should all be emailed this video.

Also, I do not hate cops but I try to avoid them.
I can take of myself without risking coming across some jack-boot authoritarian.
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 02:37 AM
Response to Reply #21
110. We've had six cops killed in the Seattle area in the last year...
One of the killers claims watching the video of a cop beating a woman in custody, that was broadcasted
often, prompted his crime. While the people that commit these crimes are unhinged, cops like the one in
this video should be weeded out and rarely are. All it does is create more bad blood out in the streets.
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quark219 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:26 AM
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I find your post almost unbelievable.
 
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Here you are on a progressive website that champions individual rights and protections from the state, and after watching a video where a cop violently jerks a handcuffed woman around, shoves her with little provocation against a wall, and TURNS OFF A CAMERA, and then viewing horrific images of the battered, bruised, and swollen face of the same woman whom the cop left in a pool of blood, your response is:

"The important thing here is the cop went home at the end of the day (safely) to his family."

Honestly: *That's* your response?
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Mumblefratz Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:27 AM
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24. Yeah right ...
You have a woman in handcuffs against an experience male cop. He must have felt very threatened.

There are certainly cases where I can understand that a cop needs to make a snap decision but this was not one of them. The cop deserves to lose his job, spend some time in jail, hopefully receive a bit of jailhouse justice *and* lose his pension.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:29 AM
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26. Oh spare us the bullshit
I work with a cop. Ive talked to him about police who beat people up. He told me, 'we all knew who 'they' were and we stayed away from them.' Police culture stopped him and others from doing anything about them.

Perhaps you didnt watch the video. The womans face is shattered. This cop is a total coward and deserves the firing he got as well as a prison sentence.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:09 PM
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92. Agreed. Love your Stupidism pic, too. nt
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:20 PM
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94. Im totally stealing that picture. n/t
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 01:21 AM
Response to Reply #26
104. Ha! That's an awesome graphic you got there! n/t
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quark219 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:33 AM
Response to Reply #10
28. Re: Edit. Don't blame the readers. Nothing personal, but your attempt at humor sucked. [N/T]
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:37 AM
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31. Oh ok I re read what your OP was and can see the sarcasm, not a defense but a take
on what folks will slant it on. I find it very odd that they use the stressed out and dangerous job excuse, yet the guy or woman who works a dead end job comes home finds his pay check won't meet the bills and buy food plus on top of that the non worker he/she lives with just went out and wrote a check or used a credit card for expensive non sense that wasn't needed, yet that person isn't allowed to be stressed out and if he/she does lash out they are promptly arrested, charged and convicted. Fucking double standards anyhow.
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #10
36. when dealing with the police... walk a mile in their shoes....THEN SELL THE SHOES
i guess the alleged officer hit the alleged suspect in the alleged face...

they are paid to deal with the threats and the stress
and they are paid to do it following a set of rules

when we break the rules.... we are arrested or punished or taken to court etc...

i don't want to walk in their shoes... i want THEM to honor their jobs and do their F()*$#ing jobs without breaking the rules

when they break the rules.... i want them arrested according to the LAW ... and punished and taken to court....

WEARING A BADGE IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR BEING AN ALLEGED ASSHOLE
THERE ARE MANY GOOD AND GREAT OFFICERS... AND A FEW THAT DESERVE TO GET THEIR ASSES HANDED TO THEM
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:56 AM
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100. I don't get it!! If I lose my temper with an unruly child or adult and hit them even once
that selfsame cop would be happy to slap me in cuffs and lecture me on the need to hold my temper. We, the public, are not allowed to claim that we have too much stress in our jobs or lives to obey the law. They should be given the same treatment we would have, arrested first and lawyer up later.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #10
37. Rule 1 of DU posts: NEVER omit the sarcasm smiley
Rule 2 of DU posts: if your post is so OBVIOUSLY, UNAMBIGUOUSLY sarcastic that no one could possibly think it to be serious, see rule 1.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #37
79. Oh sure.
Like you know what you're talking about.
:eyes: :hi:
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #10
46. yeah, that 90 lb woman in handcuffs was a real threat.
i bet she beat him with her nose. yeah, that's it, he's the victim!

that said, i don't know why people act like she did in the first place. they gotta know it won't help them.

ellen
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:14 PM
Response to Reply #10
77. Yeah, 99% of cops give the rest a bad name.
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pezDispenser Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:12 PM
Response to Reply #10
93. did the woman go home to her family safely?
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 04:47 AM
Response to Reply #10
115. Yes, you must always use the sarcasm gif.
I usually put "For the sarcasm challenged: :sarcasm: " in my sarcastic posts. With righteous indignation in overdrive. Some people around here wouldn't know sarcasm if it heaped irony upon them.......and then bit them on the ass.

For the sarcasm challenged: :sarcasm:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:06 AM
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11. You don't get those damages in a fall unless you fall into a robot of a cop designed to punch a
human with arms handcuffed from behind - in the face and head. Where did the blood come from. I hope she has insurance to cover this and someone to pay for the best medical analyst we have.

It would help if there are video clips of this inhuman creature who posed as a cop after he stopped and opened the door.

Was he legally at right to turn off the camera?


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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:08 AM
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12. Yay, cops!
They're the best!
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:12 AM
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13. You guess which.
Some cops tend to be unstable authoritarian personalities who have poor social skills, carry guns and are more than wiling to use their legal authority to force your compliance by any means they deem necessary. Others are socially conscious, use their authority with restraint and are dedicated to protecting and serving the public. They also carry guns. Since you can't tell a good cop from a bad cop, it's best not to antagonize them too much.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:13 AM
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16. Since you can't tell a good cop from a bad cop...
...it's safer to assume they're all bad cops.

That's the sad truth.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:21 AM
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20. And sadder than that. Good cops will stick up for bad cops most of the time.
n/t
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #20
23. Making them bad cops, too.
Fun, fun, fun!
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Mumblefratz Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:21 AM
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19. I'm glad the cop got fired ...
I hope he has to spend some time in jail and loses his pension over this as well.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:27 AM
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25. It would be nice if what happens to the cop...
...is the same as what would have happened to the woman if she'd beat the cop instead of the cop beating her.

Ya know? Actual justice?

Ah...I can dream...
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:35 AM
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30. Shit-stain sadist. These bully/cowards LOVE inflicting violence upon the helpless.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:41 AM
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32. Bad cops give good cops a bad name.
On the other hand if this woman, in handcuffs is too much for this guy to handle why didn't he call another officer to help. How about a woman officer? This is really sad and women should be afraid when they are in the company of police. Especially if they are in handcuffs and see the camera being switched off. I realize this woman was not cooperating but physical violence was not the answer. He is lucky that he didn't kill her.
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:27 PM
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95. There aren't any good cops. They wouldn't be cops if they had something valid to offer society.
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 11:29 PM by D23MIURG23
They are the worlds largest protection racket; a plague of insular parasites.
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 02:31 AM
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109. +1
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:20 AM
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33. Turned off the video? Then she "fell?" Then he turned the video back on?
They must think they're talking to children out here...
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 01:07 AM
Response to Reply #33
103. Yeah...
Pretty convenient that she "fell" when the tape was not rolling isn't it ?
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:22 AM
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34. 3rd strike he's out? He shouldn't have gotten a second strike.
The fired officer also received at least two other excessive force complaints, according to a report in The Shreveport Times.

Darlene Atkins, a Shreveport resident, filed a lawsuit in 2006 alleging Willis threatened her son with a gun to his head, according to a report in The Shreveport Times. Willis said he would shoot the boy if family members came closer, according to the lawsuit.

Tomeka Bush, another Shreveport resident, claims in another 2006 lawsuit that Willis seized her car after she filed a complaint against him about the Atkins incident.

The police department did not discipline Willis after its investigation into the 2006 incident. The city denied Willis acted inappropriately.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331490,00.html
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bpj62 Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 12:03 PM
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38. Listen to the Lawyer
The lawyer said that she got the injuries when she was arrested for DUI. Not when she was in the interview room. Unless you pass out and do a face plant you are always going to try and fall in a way that protects your face even if you are handcuffed. The amount of blood that is on the floor in not from someone falling and hitting thier nose. The cop turned off the video tape which clearly means that he did not want anyone to see what he was going to. That women was clearly beaten by someone. She didnt do herself any favors by not following the officers instructions, but police officers are trained how to properly handle obnoxious people.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:53 PM
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97. For god sakes, what am I missing here?
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 11:55 PM by ooglymoogly
The woman has a right to demand a phone call and a lawyer.
Anyone defending this police officer is a fool and doesn't know his ass from his elbow. She will of course sue the bastards and she will win. The circumstances are just too obvious of this woman's brutal beating for even the stupidest amongst us.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 02:21 AM
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107. Actually. I don't believe that right kicks in UNTIL you have been read your rights...
...in full and indicated that you understand them. It stops situations where the aleged offender interupts with "Yeah, yeah I get it. Give me a phone." and then later argues that they were not properly mirandized. Even cops who might inform perps of their rights a dozen times a day are themselves very carefully "read their rights" in full on the rare occasions that they themselves are arrested.

And as a matter of fact, the right to a phone call is not universal. The right to a lawyer is.

What the cop appears to have done is wrong, absolutely wrong even in the moments before he turned off the camera he clearly "helped" her into the wall once or twice. Unfortunately, because she was argumentative and physically uncooperative, while on camera, it is impossible to rule out the cop's story entirely. Bruises and injuries to her arms might be consistent with her continuing to struggle after the camera was turned off, and there is a slight possibility that in those struggles she managed to wrench herself free and faceplant on the floor, causing the facial injuries. It's not likely, unfortunately it's not impossible.

What the woman did prior to the camera being turned off demonstrates ignorance at best, and probably a fair degree of stupidity as well. You don't resist and if you're smart you comply with any reasonable request. Then you ask for a lawyer and shut up until you are alone with that lawyer.

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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 12:15 PM
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39. There are many unanswered questions
Was she given a field sobriety test?
Why was she brought to the station?
Why was there no female officer present? or any other officer present?
Why did he turn the camera off?
When was she arrested and given her rights?
I find it very hard to believe her face would look like that after falling to the floor. Clearly she was beaten. He should be in jail.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 12:31 PM
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40. Looks virtually certain he beat her, and I won't defend him, but I have a question.
What gives fuckwits the idea that they have any right to override or control the booking process.

Screaming at a cop 'I have a right to call someone I have a right to call someone RIGHT NOW', and trying to work your way out of the officers custody, through a door, is complete horseshit. You are GOING to be physically restrained at that point, even by the nicest officer with only the best of intentions.

She didn't deserve what happened, but come the fuck on, stop behaving like an idiot when arrested. Makes it a lot easier to champion your defense when you don't paint yourself as a total jackass.


I'm not going to blame the victim or say she had it coming. No one does. Obviously I'm glad the officer was fired, and I hope she gets her day in court with him at the defendant's table. She looked like she was 'resisting arrest' by running her face into his knee, the edge of a table, or the floor, repeatedly. Blatant bullshit.
The department also has something to answer for, for not sending in an additional officer to observe when she started screaming.


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Mike K Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:59 PM
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59. That woman should have been handled by a female officer -
- or there should at least have been one other officer present, preferably a female, to restrain her.

Screaming at a cop 'I have a right to call someone I have a right to call someone RIGHT NOW', and trying to work your way out of the officers custody, through a door, is complete horseshit. You are GOING to be physically restrained at that point, even by the nicest officer with only the best of intentions.

That is the kind of manifestly uncompromising authoritarian attitude that too often results in exactly this kind of avoidable situation -- which tends to reflect badly on all cops.

I have met thousands of (NYC) police officers as well as some from other jurisdictions and in my opinion the vast majority of them are decent people who just want to put in their eight and go home. But there are the ten percent for whom that badge becomes an important component of their personality and this incident is a perfect example of what comes of it.

If a man behaved toward that cop the way that woman did the cop had cause to rough him up. But women are known to behave irrationally at times, especially when they've had a few, and the way to restrain them without having to hurt them takes two people. And if that cop was properly trained he should know that. As a man he has no business treating a woman that way.

He's a police officer, not a pimp.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 02:40 AM
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111. I don't believe I just read that
Especially this part right here "If a man behaved toward that cop the way that woman did the cop had cause to rough him up. But women are known to behave irrationally at times, especially when they've had a few, and the way to restrain them without having to hurt them takes two people. And if that cop was properly trained he should know that. As a man he has no business treating a woman that way.". Yeah, if a man acts like that, whup his ass, but a woman, well, they do that ya know. Gotta take it into consideration. Next you are gonna suggest that she might have been on the rag right?

For fuck's sake...
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 07:13 AM
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119. There is a difference between a pig and a pimp?
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Quasimodem Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 07:49 PM
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66. The law and legal procedures.
"Screaming at a cop 'I have a right to call someone I have a right to call someone RIGHT NOW', and trying to work your way out of the officer’s custody, through a door, is complete horseshit."


That "right to a phone call" thing stems from "Miranda vs. Arizona.”

Denying a phone call to someone under arrest is often construed in court as equivalent to denying them access to counsel.

It looks like they were in an interrogation room. At that point, if the woman wasn't under arrest, she should have been free to leave. If she was under arrest, she had a right to counsel.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:21 PM
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84. Exactly, he had not read the woman her rights yet.
He detained her, hand cuffed her and refused her council and beat her. Wonder what gave the guy the idea he could do that. How did she get in that room? Why was she not arrested on the spot before being taken in?

This is so bad.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 02:27 AM
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108. I would assume she failed or refused a field sobriety test
however, at this point, I wouldn't refer to a damn thing in that officer's initial report. I don't trust him.


An interesting point, my assumption would be they mirandized her at the point of arrest. If that's the case, she IS entitled to a phone call, but the prisoner does not get to determine when or how to make the call. The call should come AFTER booking, which means after the breathalyzer (which supposedly she refused).

I mean, you couldn't demand to use the officer's own cell phone for your call immediatly after he finishes the last word of the miranda warning. It's arrest -> booking/processing -> counsel/call, right? (I have never been arrested)

Also, your right to an attorney (counsel) or a call does not authorize you to physically obtain either, if the officers have not made it available to you. Just like you have the right to refuse a search, doesn't mean you can physically block an officer from searching something. It just means that they are likely to lose that evidence in court, because it would be illegally obtained. If you are denied counsel, you are not authorized to attempt to physically obtain counsel, by forcing your way off through some door. Your recourse is to present the refusal to provide counsel to the judge, and get your case tossed, and possible sanctions against the officers.
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wolfgangmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 12:38 PM
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41. Reading between the lines this video shows us what to do if we are in a similar stituation.
The second any cop shuts off the video camera after cuffing you run face first into the wall and then beat your head on the floor.

I am not saying that this poor, probably drunk woman did this, but if you want to set up a police department for a lawsuit, here is your opportunity.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:20 PM
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83. She was not drunk.....
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brand404 Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 12:51 PM
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43. My Objective Opinion....
Ok, the way i see it, the cop did things right up to the point when he shut off the camera (which is clearly cuz he wants to do something he shouldnt be doing). And when it comes back on she is clearly beaten. I am sure she was continuing to resist but no way in hell that kind of beating was justified....dude, call another officer in at worst case or put her face to the floor and that is it. That pool of blood is a clear sign this handcuffed woman got a pounding.

This cop deserves to be fired and a lawsuit might be in order.

She was an idoit for not listening but i think the officer used this opportunity to take his frustrations out on a person with full force. If it were a man instead of a woman he might have gotten away with it by making up an excuse that he kept charging but now he is left with the excuse that she fell...wtf!??!

Fire his ass...And chick...learn to listen and cooperate when arrested.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 01:46 PM
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48. What amazed me was that the reason getting for not prosecuting
was that there was no evidence on which to base a prosecution. Of course there was no evidence. The police officer turned off the camera -- thereby, in a sense, destroying what evidence there might have been. Technically, you could argue that he did not actually destroy evidence. But -- I think that a jury would see it otherwise. The officer clearly had something to hide.

Unless the woman beat here head against the floor in a temper tantrum? A doctor would be able to determine that from other injuries that she would inflict on herself if she did that. Her eyes looked like she had been hit really hard. And, let's face it, in the video that we saw, the officer could not keep his hands off of this woman. That raises all kinds of questions.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 04:09 PM
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136. Another interesting question that will never be answered
how does the face get damaged like that? There's a vertical cut in the middle of her forehead, and both eyes are massively bruised. What impacted her face? A fist? Seems unlikely. Can that bruising spread from some other sort of hit than a fist to the forehead? Possibly. I've seen odd bruising around the eyes before, when the eyes were not specifically impacted.

So what was it? A fist? A knee? The edge of a table? Doorknob? Floor?

If it was the floor, could one smack against the floor cause that? Would it have to be multiple?


If I presume innocence, Cop really screwed himself by turning that camera off.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 01:13 PM
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44. Something many people forget -
it is NEVER law enforcement's job to punish anyone, for any crime, ever.

Often law enforcement officers get the idea that they need to administer a little rough treatment for those they judge to be troublesome. This is a clear violation of the law and it is VERY common.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 01:21 PM
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45. Looks like another candidate for "ambush". n/t
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 01:29 PM
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47. Repeated Face Plant... that cop is screwed.. video or no video..
The cop miight even be charged with Agg Battery.

Now if we could only do something about the TSA Goon Squad.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:08 PM
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51. Jail is the wrong word! He needs to spend time in prison.
Jail would be a vacation.
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 01:58 PM
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50. And Russian President Medvedev wants to crack down
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:10 PM
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52. Think Gov. Don Siegelman without the blood. The Law is corrupt, we are all it's victims.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #52
86. I was looking at Ted Stevens case yesterday, and it is amazing how
the corruption by the prosecutor bothers our judicial system in Steven's case, but not in Siegelman's case????
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 03:06 PM
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53. The officer need to GO TO JAIL
And that officers boss who is covering up for him needs to be FIRED!
That is just plain bullshit, unacceptable, out of line!
Assault and battery.
This is just horrible...is this what we can all expect from cops now>?
Are there any good cops left who will speak out against this crap?
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 03:20 PM
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54. Well of course she fell
Into the cop's fists.......several times.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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jennied Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 03:53 PM
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55. Fell?!?!?!
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 03:58 PM
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56. I hate cops.
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Mike K Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:19 PM
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61. They're not all that way.
I can assure you that most male cops would not have handled that woman as did the one in the video. They would know better and ask for assistance, preferably a female officer.

This guy is obviously a jerk who would be reading gas meters if he hadn't passed the police test and the badge has gone to his head.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:19 PM
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81. They're not all that way.
99% of cops give the rest a bad name.
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 09:30 AM
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126. VERY democratic of you
:wtf:
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 02:55 PM
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144. I'm not the only one here that feels that way.
Nice try though.
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 03:14 PM
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145. Ahhh. That makes a shit ton of sense
If MULTIPLE people think stereotyping entire groups is okay, then it is. Grow the fuck up.
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 04:30 PM
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146. That wasn't my point. You tried to paint me as an outsider, but I
stated others here feel the same way I do. The "If you don't agree with the collective, you are a freeper" insult is old. I still hate cops btw.
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athenasatanjesus Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:42 PM
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57. there are approx 800,000 cops in the US
Until I see video of at least 8,000 of them doing bad things which is still only 1% I won't even consider insulting cops in general.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:25 PM
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62. You didn't see video of this one doing anything bad..
But it's fairly obvious something bad happened.

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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 07:23 AM
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120. That isn't the problem.
Even if 1% of the cops are like this cretin the problem is 99% look the other way. Just why didn't some of those 99% come to this woman's aid? The 99% are just as guilty as this bastard. Time and time again we have seen where several cops are beating someone up while their fellow cops just look on. It certainly makes me wonder just what type of people are being attracted to being cops.
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bikesein Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:56 PM
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58. Horrible!
She fell on his fists multiple times?
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:17 PM
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60. put me on that Jury - please put me on that Jury!!!!

I'll have that guy in prison for 20 with folks who will love to meet him one-on-one... Attacking a woman in cuffs. That tells you everything.

They need to review all the security tapes wherever he has been involved in processing an arrest. That is serial violent activity. I hope people come forward who have information to provide and who might be in similar taped situations.
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npk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:28 PM
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63. She just fell *wink* *wink* And her face busted open by itself
Except the police department already admitted that the woman was not drunk. So how did she just fall, accidentally. I guess we will just never know since the camera was shut off right before she tripped and fell on the floor. Of course I don't know too may people who when they trip they fall on their face. I mean most people when they fall they put their hands out in front of them to catch themselves and brace for the fall. Of course if her hands were cuffed and she was thrown to the ground I could see her head being busted open.

This cop is lucky he was only fired. He should have been arrested.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:40 PM
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64. Gee golly gosh, the officer stopped dur tape
why did he do that

fuck.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 08:10 PM
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67. Every cop who was in that station at that time who stood by & did nothing
should go to fucking prison.
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whatsthebuzz Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 09:54 PM
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71. How old is this?
How old is this clip? I only ask because the first news anchor shown has been working for a news station in Florida for some time now, not the station shown. But that's minor. It still doesn't make up for what happened.
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:14 AM
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99. it's a couple of years old, I think
I remember when the story broke, and it was quite a while ago.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 09:59 PM
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73. This shit never gets old.
Where are the cop apologists saying she needed beat because she could have injured herself or the officer? Yes, that's their usual line, she needed injured to keep herself from injuring herself.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:05 PM
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75. This video was viral over a year ago. Is there a reason it's being brought back up?
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:18 PM
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80. Because it seems like virtually everyone but you
hasn't seen it before.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #75
87. Well I never saw it...
and I find it outragious....
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Quasimodem Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:54 PM
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89. You are correct, it is an old story. People may like to know the result.
Jonathan Turley's blog had a follow up last August on what happened to Constable Wiley Willis and his victim.

http://tinyurl.com/yd8g3o4
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 05:37 AM
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117. Thats unreal
I was going to wait an see what the courts would do (we sure didn't have all the facts), now it looks like the union, prosecutor, police and courts are all corupt.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:12 PM
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76. That's head blood, you can see it on the floor.
The fucking prick beat her.
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Delver Rootnose Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:16 PM
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78. if the tables were turned and the cop was on the floor..
...she would have been charged even if 'they didn't know exactly' what happened when the tape was off. The cop should have been charged and let a jury figure out if there was a law broken. This 'there was not enough evidence BS is just a cover up.
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Delver Rootnose Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:19 PM
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82. oh and another example...
...why there should be hidden cameras running all the time in police stations where only the internal affairs people know where.
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:22 PM
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85. Draft the police
Anybody that wants to be a cop probably shouldn't. That 'chief' needs firing too. Lots more of this goes on than what is reported. Beating a handcuffed woman, or anyone, is just barbaric.
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:04 PM
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91. And send them off on a spaceship to invade the sun. n/t
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:49 PM
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88. FEDERAL CHARGES NOW. N/T
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 05:19 AM
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116. Absolutely! Abuse of authority under color of law.
The officer is 100% responsible for her safety while she is in his custody. That does include protecting a drunk from themselves. At worst it's assault. At best it's gross criminal negligence.
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:03 PM
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90. Fuck these cowards.
Society should find a better outlet for the energies of its bullying cowards.

This cowardly piece of shit will get his in prison at least.
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JohnnyHardhat Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:33 PM
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96. POS Officer
That man should not have been in uniform and if it was my sister or mother that was treated that way he'd never of made it home after his shift.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:13 AM
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98. O. M. G. nt
Edited on Fri Feb-19-10 12:14 AM by live love laugh
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 01:01 AM
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101. Not enough evidence to press charges ???
Holy shit ! :grr:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 02:14 AM
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106. Well we don't really know what happened. Maybe her face spontaneously collapsed on itself.
They do that, you know. All the time. No way they'd get a conviction in this midst of this epidemic of spontaneous nose breaking.

Seriously, any prosecutor who wouldn't press charges on this one has just declared themselves completely incompetent and should be packed off to the nearest unemployment office immediately. If you can't convince 12 reasonable people that cop hit that woman after he shut that camera off, your next job should involve a blue vest and a cash register.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 02:04 AM
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105. So neither of these TWO FUCKHEADS are clear on the concept of MIRANDA RIGHTS?
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 02:50 AM
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112. She can sue all she likes but that won't take away the
trauma of such an experience. I don't get why we have all these procedures set in place when nobody ever follows them?
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 02:54 AM
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113. He was attempting IMPOTENTLY to read her her Miranda Rights. He's a fuck up so he beats her up?
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V_Byl Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 05:38 AM
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118. I worked with cops in Louisiana after hurricane Katrina...
...and what a bunch they were. I was an MP in the National Guard at the time, and was going to be a cop, and the 2 months I spent down there completely changed my mind. Went on several patrols where they would just pull people over because they were minorities/young... the profiling was crazy. Pressure kids into searching they're car, basically just doing it without consent.

I don't doubt for a second that she fell, and judging from the way he was moving her around, she had a little bit of help.

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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 07:58 AM
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121. I'm not sorry the cop was fired but honestly I'm not all that sorry she got a busted nose either.
She was obviously shitfaced and behind the wheel, I wonder how her face would have looked like wrapped around a tree or an oncoming car. If I was on a jury she would win her case against the city but I would award her a $1.
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:56 AM
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128. You're kidding ,right ?
Because if you're not then you are no better than this psycho woman-beater cop.Even if she was drunk there's no excuse for what he have done to her and I find you comments damn misogynistic. :(
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 04:05 PM
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134. Oh please
get over yourself. I didn't defend the cop at all but whose fault is it that she ended up alone with the "psycho woman-beater cop"? She chose to get behind the wheel drunk and with that choice came a whole lot of possible scenarios, most of them bad, and she experienced a bad one, fortunately for the universe she didn't kill any innocent people with her selfish, self-absorbed behavior.
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 10:24 PM
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139. Therefore she deserved to be beaten by this caveman ?
Edited on Fri Feb-19-10 10:25 PM by Shining Jack
You're right,after all in certain countries she would have been whipped,lashed or caned for drinking alcohol plus additional punishment for driving a car.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:59 AM
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141. Oh I see
your problem is that you can't process two logical threads at the same time, let's break it down. Thread 1; bad cop, yes I have a problem with that. I never said I didn't. Thread 2; stupid drunk, first of all I couldn't care less what sex the person in the video was which makes you more of a sexist then me a misogynist, secondly, if a driver gets injured as a result of driving drunk I have a profound lack of sympathy for them, whether that injury came from running into a tree or running into bad cop.

Now if you actually read my OP and were able to comprehend my statement about being on a jury you would have noticed that I would have found in favor of the driver for bad cop behavior but would have awarded her $1 because the behavior that got her into that situation in the first place was unacceptable and she has to claim responsibility for that.
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 12:51 PM
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142. Why are you so quick to believe the cop's story ?
How do you know that she was drunk ? Does "innocent until proven guilty" sounds familiar to you ?
It turns out that it's old news and the DWI charges were dropped.The city of Shreveport settled with the DWI "suspect" for 400,000 dollars.

http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?s=10917640&clienttype=printable

Oh and read post 137 again.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 11:13 PM
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151. Mmmm because
I watched the video and I know a drunk when I see one. Just because they dropped the DWI charges doesn't mean she wasn't DWI in this case, obviously you never heard of a settlement agreement. The city had a PR nightmare on their hands there was no way the DA would have moved on her case given the situation, it is no way proof of her innocence.
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 12:10 AM
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152. See post 149. n/t
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 02:41 PM
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130. What he did was just as illegal as what she did.
Explain yourself.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 03:49 PM
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133. How much
fucking explanation do you need, it's fairly obvious I wasn't defending the cop, he's wrong, but she's equally guilty, she could have run into a tree or oncoming traffic and her face would have looked a whole lot worse the her running into a douche bag cop. I have no use for bad cops and just as little use for drunk assholes that get behind the wheel, bad things can happen, and they did. Is that enough words for you to figure out what you should have figured out in the first place?
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 04:06 PM
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135. Just wanted to make sure I understood your stand.
You're okay with the crime that was perpetrated on the woman (because she deserved it) even though you have no use for the POS cop who committed the crime.

Is that correct?
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 04:13 PM
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138. OK, what part of
"I have no use for bad cops and just as little use for drunk assholes that get behind the wheel" do you fail to comprehend? Both wrong, I'm just not all that willing to give her a pass for the wrong she did just because she got wronged in the process, clear enough for you now?
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 04:11 PM
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137. Only, she was found to NOT be intoxicated.
So where does that leave your argument?

The hospital had plenty of opportunity to gather and test a blood sample. She was not drunk.


Probably want to re-think your position there.
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jonathan_seer Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:01 AM
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122. This was caused by the cell phone no doubt about it.
It will all come out sooner or later.

The cell phone inadvertently closed shut while she was talking right on her eye with 10gs of force causing black eye #1

Dazed and confused she blamed the innocent, law abiding, justice defending peace offer.

When he extended a kind helping hand to help her, she yanked away like all guilt-ridden, lying criminals do and made another phone call, only to get a second black eye when her seriously defective phone with jackhammer closing joints slammed shut on her good eye causing her second black eye.

Naturally this sent the criminal woman into a frenzy.

The tender hearted cop realized this was all being captured on film and turned off the camera to spare the woman the inevitable humiliation that would follow should this vid reach the public.

By the time he came back though it was escalating.

Fustrated that she couldn't complete a call with her cell phone she threw it violently to the ground only for it to bounce up almost as fast and hard right into her forehead causing that wound, ricocheted off her head off the wall and hit her again and again, breaking her nose in the process.

The good, decent police officer tried to help but the cell phone was like some sort of new military tech able to respond in kind to any attempt to disable it by disabling the owner of the cellphone.

5 minutes later the ricocheting cell phone finally came to stop after the repeated blows knocked her bloodied, to the ground unconscious.

Too late the good peace officer realized he should have filmed this for proof of his good intentions and that is where we come back in after he turns the video back on.

The battery of the misogynistic cell phone had run out though, and didn't attack the woman again.

So naturally when she came to she blamed the good officer who was only trying to help her. Oh yes he was.

Bad bad progressives being so groundlessly suspicious of all our men in blue who spend 24/7 thinking of ways to protect us.

This sounds for more reasonable than the description of what happened given by the police man's lawyer. LOL
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:07 PM
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129. Lol ! Yeah,that makes more sense than the Lawyer's version.
I love your post.You would get a gold medal in the sarcasm competition at the Olympic.
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jonathan_seer Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 05:03 PM
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155. thanks
glad you liked it :)
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penndragon69 Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:28 AM
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123. KKK with a badge and a gun.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 10:48 PM
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140. i hope she sues and gets millions
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 09:01 PM
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148. There is no proof that the officer beat her up.
She could have fallen, and with her arms behind her back she'd have landed HARD on her nose/face. All I could see on that video is that she was being uncooperative with a police officer.

Wonder what the later reports about this incident show. Did she even claim she was beaten?
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 09:59 PM
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149. I checked and It turns out that it's old news...
Edited on Sat Feb-20-10 10:00 PM by Shining Jack
The DWI charges were dropped.The city of Shreveport settled with the DWI "suspect" for 400,000 dollars.

http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?s=10917640&clientt

The cop got his job back because of his union but resigned 2 months later.There are 2 other lawsuits against him women in both cases.He pulled a gun an pointed it at the son of one of the plaintiff.

http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=7905586&nav=0RY5 (Quick googling)

That guy is not a good cop by any means and give all the good ones out-here a bad name. :(

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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 10:16 PM
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150. Thank you.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 12:17 AM
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153. "Beats up female"? How about "beats up a woman"
dehumanization starts with how we use language, and once the process is complete crap like this happens. Use "female" when referring to animals, not people (and yes, I know the author of the OP did not choose the title).
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