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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 12:55 PM
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Nazizona
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Posted on DU: April 21, 2010
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Arizona has become a hotbed of hate and racism! Here is our toughest Sheriff in America Joe (says he's running for Gov.)and his lackey Candy Andy, former Count Attorney now running for Az AG. New legislation was just passed and and is outlawing just being brown in AZ. Protests like the 60's are happening at the capital. People chaining themselves to the capital doors, arrests, marching, you name it.
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 02:20 PM
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1. IF THIS DOES NOT RALLY THE BROWN VOTE IN ARIZONUTS nothing will...they have the numbers and power
i hope this is the point at which our fair state turns BLUE
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 02:26 PM
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2. Me Too
I came here 3 years ago when KPHX was a powerful station and Nova M was on the rise. I saw a state that was turning blue and was so proud to be out of Mississippi and in a state that was getting away from such stuff. I even thought Saban would beat Arpaio, but sadly it all fell apart. We can bring back that spirit again and make things better.
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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 06:14 PM
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9. God, I hope so....
..it has been difficult here in AZ, I was part of the civil rights movement in the 60's.....we have regressed 40 years.....it is sad to see.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:25 PM
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13. It's tragic and I hope the Pendelum swings
back to sanity soon!..and stays there.
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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 02:36 PM
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3. Highlights of the Bill
The bill directs police to determine the immigration status of noncriminals if there is a 'reasonable suspicion' they are undocumented. Immigrant rights groups say it amounts to a police state.

Arizona lawmakers on Tuesday approved what foes and supporters agree is the toughest measure in the country against illegal immigrants, directing local police to determine whether people are in the country legally.

The measure, long sought by opponents of illegal immigration, passed 35 to 21 in the state House of Representatives.

The state Senate passed a similar measure earlier this year, and Republican Gov. Jan Brewer is expected to sign the bill.

The bill's author, State Sen. Russell Pearce, said it simply "takes the handcuffs off of law enforcement and lets them do their job."

But police were deeply divided on the matter, with police unions backing it but the state police chief's association opposing the bill, contending it could erode trust with immigrants who could be potential witnesses.

Immigrant rights groups were horrified, and contended that Arizona would be transformed into a police state.

"It's beyond the pale," said Chris Newman, legal director of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network. "It appears to mandate racial profiling."

The bill, known as SB 1070, makes it a misdemeanor to lack proper immigration paperwork in Arizona. It also requires police officers, if they form a "reasonable suspicion" that someone is an illegal immigrant, to determine the person's immigration status.

Currently, officers can inquire about someone's immigration status only if the person is a suspect in another crime. The bill allows officers to avoid the immigration issue if it would be impractical or hinder another investigation.

Citizens can sue to compel police agencies to comply with the law, and no city or agency can formulate a policy directing its workers to ignore the law -- a provision that advocates say prevents so-called sanctuary orders that police not inquire about people's immigration status.

The bill cements the position of Arizona, whose border with Mexico is the most popular point of entry for illegal immigrants into this country, as the state most aggressively using its own laws to fight illegal immigration. In 2006 the state passed a law that would dissolve companies with a pattern of hiring illegal immigrants. Last year it made it a crime for a government worker to give improper benefits to an illegal immigrant.

Mark Krikorian at the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington, D.C., think tank that advocates tougher immigration enforcement, said the legislation was a logical extension of the state's previous enforcement efforts.

"It makes sense that they would be the first to do it since they're ground zero for illegal immigration," he said.

Krikorian added that he doubted the law would be used much. "Obviously, their prosecutors aren't going to go out and prosecute every illegal alien," he said. "It gives police and prosecutors another tool should they need it."

Opponents, however, raised the specter of officers untrained in immigration law being required to determine who is in the country legally. They noted that though the bill says race cannot solely be used to form a suspicion about a person's legality, it implicitly allows it to be a factor.

"A lot of U.S. citizens are going to be swept up in the application of this law for something as simple as having an accent and leaving their wallet at home," said Alessandra Soler Meetze, president of the American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona.

The ACLU and other groups have vowed to sue to block the bill from taking effect should Brewer sign it. They note that a federal court struck down a New Hampshire law in 2005 that said illegal immigrants were trespassing, declaring that only the federal government has the authority to enforce immigration. Another provision of the Arizona law, which makes day laborers illegal, violates the 1st Amendment, critics contend.

The issue of local enforcement of immigration laws has been especially heated in Arizona, where Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has taken an aggressive stance, conducting sweeps in immigrant-heavy neighborhoods to round up illegal immigrants.

His actions have drawn a civil rights investigation from the Department of Justice but strong praise from Arizonans. Other agencies have argued against Arpaio's stance, saying that they need illegal immigrants to trust them enough to report crimes.

Brewer, a Republican, has not taken a public stance on the bill. She replaced Janet Napolitano, a Democrat who became President Obama's Homeland Security chief last year. Napolitano had vetoed similar bills in the past. Brewer faces a primary challenge next month; most observers expect her to sign the measure.

Some Republicans have privately complained about the bill, which Pearce has been pushing for several years, but were loath to vote against it in an election year. The House was scheduled to approve it last week but the vote was delayed until Tuesday to give sponsors a chance to round up enough votes. It picked up steam after the killing late last month of a rancher on the Arizona side of the Mexican border. Footprints from the crime scene led back to Mexico.

In an impassioned debate Tuesday, both sides relied on legal and moral arguments.

"Illegal immigration brings crime, kidnapping, drugs -- drains our government services," said Rep. John Kavanagh, a Republican. "Nobody can stand on the sidelines and not take part in this battle."

Democrats were just as passionate. "This bill, whether we intend it or not, terrorizes the people we profit from," said Rep. Tom Chabin.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:20 PM
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4. I just posted about this a couple days ago...our kids will have NO IDEA what naziism actually meant.
Or racism. Or sexism. Or fascism. We've used these words as political tools of convenience for so long that they're virtually meaningless now. Completely diluted of any substance for the majority of Americans.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:47 PM
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5. I'm not too worried.
They still show Hogan's Heroes on TVland.

And besides, most kids can't point to Germany on a map. Of Germany.

And I'm only a little sarcastic.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:48 PM
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6. :) Nice post donco
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 05:53 PM
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8. Seriously, though, you're right.
"Nazi" is a bogeyman anymore - just a vague scary thing under the bed. It's lost all meaning because it means everything.

Plus, I don't think that era will repeat itself in exactly the same way. There will be nuances that seem to "make it OK." But screaming "Nazi" at everything doesn't help.
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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 11:05 AM
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12. Unfortunately, living in Arizona...
...is becoming quite oppressive for Latinos, even us native born, and are reminiscent of the first race laws passed under the Nazi regime. See the prewar laws passed in the 30's here at Wiki....

"Anti-Jewish legislation in prewar Nazi Germany"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Jewish_legislation_in_prewar_Nazi_Germany

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AzJusticeFreedom Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 03:51 PM
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22. Thank you
for the link.
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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 02:14 PM
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25. You are welcome!
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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 09:27 AM
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15. Arizona's 10 year pattern of legislation...
.... is reminiscent of the Nuremberg Laws of 1935. Hitler made a speech before the Reichstag in Nuremberg, introducing the laws and their alleged motivation, before the laws were formally read and proposed for adoption by Goring, the President of the Reichstag: ...Bitter complaints have come in from countless places citing the provocative behavior of Jews....a certain amount of planning was involved.... vigorous defensive action by the people, we have no choice but to contain the problem through legislative measures....it may be possible, through a definitive secular solution, to create a basis on which the German people can have a tolerable relationship with the Jews.] ... This law is an attempt to find a legislative solution....if this attempt fails, it will be necessary to transfer ... to the National Socialist Party for a final solution.
I am a 5th generation US citizen and have been singled out many times for the color of my skin. I have no accent, but am of Latino origin. I have been pulled over and asked what I am doing in the neighborhood. I point across the street and say I live there. This law allows racial profiling under color of law. What is "reasonable suspicion"? Accent, brown, black, clothes?
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 01:22 PM
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16. Racial profiling? Because the President has to be an American citizen? Wow, delusional. nt
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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:37 AM
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23. I agree the chicken little syndrome runs rampant
but I live in oppressive Arizona: the sky is falling!
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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 05:06 PM
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7. Ariz. Demands Obama’s Birth Certificate

Ariz. Demands Obama’s Birth Certificate
CS - McCain Immigration Law

Can’t wait to hear if John McCain has something to say about this: Right on the heels of passing the strictest anti-immigration laws in the country, the Arizona House has passed a provision that will require President Obama to show his birth certificate in order to get on the state’s ballot. The state House voted 31-22 to add the measure, which will require all U.S. presidential candidates to prove they meet constitutional requirements, to a larger bill, which still faces a vote. One Democratic state rep. said that Arizona is becoming “the laughing stock of the nation,” but the state may in fact be in good company: similar laws have been proposed in Florida, Oklahoma, and Missouri.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheet/item/ariz-demands-obamarsquos-birth-certificate/wingnuts/?om_rid=Cdozw9&om_mid=_BLzvAtB8HRr9Y5&
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 08:18 PM
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10. IN A RELATED STORY --Arizona adopts new motto... The Asshole State==> CHECK THIS OUT--->
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/04/arizona-lawmaker-blasts-cardinal-roger-mahony-for-remarks-on-proposed-illegal-immigration-bill.html

so the gop right wing nutjob teabagging structure is imploding on itself....

"THE CHURCH" is fighting "THE STATE" here..... so WHAT WOULD JESUS DO ? ? ?? ??

well....... says John McCain...... I went to school with JESUS... and he would GODDAMN go to jail if he didn't have his birth certificate!!!


....oh come on.... it was funny.... say it.... it was funny....







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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 10:44 PM
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11. Great post!!!
Just a sample of the article. "Arizona state Sen. Russell Pearce, a Mesa Republican whose bill would require immigrants to carry proof of legal status, lashed out at Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony on Wednesday for his criticism of the proposed legislation, calling the Roman Catholic leader a "guy who’s been protecting child molesters and predators all of his life."
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lob1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 02:35 PM
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18. Unfortunately, the part about Mahony protecting child molesters is true.
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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:57 PM
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14. Hundreds ditch school, protest Arizona immigration bill
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 02:27 PM
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17. Aryanzona! (sorry stole your idea, sort of)
Thanks and welcome to the forum, Arizona Liberal!

:hi:

cross-posted to GD

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8203293
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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 01:10 AM
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21. Thank you!
I really have enjoyed reading and commenting on this site.
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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 03:41 PM
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19. Gov. Signs Law!!!
Damm!!!
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AzJusticeFreedom Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 09:13 PM
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20. Believe it or not.......
Arizona has been a police state for many years.
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cybersapien Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 09:36 AM
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24. Sigh...
This is scary...
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AzJusticeFreedom Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 12:43 AM
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26. Another big rally today!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 01:58 AM
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27. destined to be repealed...how soon will depend on the voters...
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AzJusticeFreedom Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 10:03 AM
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28. Arizona immigration law: Papers pulled to have voters decide
A former Phoenix City Council candidate said he is organizing a petition drive to repeal the state's new immigration law.

Jon Garrido, who produces an Hispanic Web site and ran unsuccessfully for council last year, pulled organizing papers Monday from the Arizona Secretary of State. He said he expects to be on the street gathering signatures in the next 10 to 14 days..........

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/04/26/20100426arizona-immigration-law-referendum26-ON.html
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