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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:42 AM
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Obama Drug Czar and Bill Bennett Defend Marijuana Prohibition on CNN
 
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It's funny. We're supposedly taking this "new approach" and it's actually been discovered that money is still largely being allocated to enforcement not prevention and the current anti-marijuana system is being kept in place. I think that is perfectly clear after watching this clip. The only thing Obama is doing is changing the wording of the War of Drugs (since they know it's become largely unpopular now). This is what you call a hit piece. Two pro-marijuana prohibtion people on with no other conflicting opinions. Bennett repeats the myth that marijuana kills people and the Drug czar repeats that legalization is a "non-starter" and doesn't make sense. It's clear the government (and other interests) is making more money from weed being illegal than legal.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:50 AM
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1. This is just about the most two faced adminastration I've ever seen.
I've never seen one guy say one thing and do another quite as much as our current President.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 06:15 PM
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33. I hate to say it but...
I have to agree. I voted for him because I truly believed he was a smart and honest man who'd do what's right for the American people and bring change for the better. But that's not what I've been seeing! WTF happened? :shrug:
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 10:02 AM
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2. Always amusing hearing a drunk like Bennet defend marijuana prohibition.
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JackDragna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 10:05 AM
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3. I love it. Legalization doesn't make sense.
What DOES make sense, apparently, is our willingness to allow some drugs (booze and cigs) while not allowing others, using a rationale that cannot stand the scrutiny of high school students. :P
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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 10:17 AM
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4. talk about stupidity and misinformation
Saying pot kills and causes violence is completely ridiculous. The kids have figured it out already. This kind of bullshit is destroying their credibility with every word out of their mouths. By law the present drug czar must support the "war on drugs" so we shouldn't expect anything else from him. The President needs to examine the issues around legalization and do what a clear majority of people in this country want which is legalization. But we all know all this already here at DU, I have seen many many discussions that are fact based.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 10:27 AM
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5. tobacco kills 400,000 EVERY year in the US - where are the drone attacks on tobacco? nt
Edited on Sat May-22-10 10:27 AM by msongs
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Obamaknowzz Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:39 PM
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37. .....
:rofl:

It is all about markets. Pot wasn't illegal until about 1937 after Dupont and William Randolph Hearst saw a threat to their environmentally very unfriendly wood-pulp paper interests. Even back then their were alarms sounded about the devasting effect of the wood-pulp sytem with its heavy chemical use. Hemp paper was a much more sustainable system.
The same thing applies to oil and other fossil fuels, vs. Tesla's electromagnetism. IMO his project at Wardenclyffe towers was destroyed by JP Morgan, then in league with Rockefeller (Big Oil), who saw a lot more long term profit and power (keeping the peasants dependent on fossil fuels).
It's concievable that the torturous path the human race has been down trying to "electrify" itself was not neccessary.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 10:27 AM
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6. We can't wait for the government to legalize. We The People must legalize it by referendum.
My favorite part is where the say we need to trust them to educate us about drugs. After they have lied through their teeth to us for almost 100 years now and even engaged in terrorism to create the political change in making marijuana illegal. Now all of a sudden we're supposed to trust them.

:wow: :banghead:

Ooookay, right after they start trusting Osama bin Laden to provide for America's national security. Why not? Osama can tell us exactly what we've been doing wrong all these years....... or maybe Bennett and Kerlikowske are just dumbasses.


I say We The People should file an official response to our Governments declaration of war against us. We should declare war on Marijuana prohibition.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 10:57 AM
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9. Yep, take to the people and SCREW the Gov't on this issue...
No one can afford to take the stand of legalization and expect to win.

But the people, as we are proving everyday here in California, can and will overturn the dumbest law in the history of the US.

So contact NORML, Form a group, pass petitions and get it going.

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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 06:36 PM
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34. NORML!? Fuck no!
How long has NORML been in existance? It's $25.00 for a basic membership. And geeze, for ten extra you can get a friggin lapel pin? Give me a fucking break.
NORML is just a con-game and won't ever accomplish anything IMHO!
"Form a group, pass petitions and get it going." Now that's good advice. We the people have to get it done. Educating the public about the suppressed history and benefits of cannabis and the real reasons they want to keep it illegal is the way.
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Mike K Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 06:08 PM
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19. The problem is Reefer Madness propaganda has been
amazingly successful in that there remains a surprisingly high percentage of Americans who continue to believe marijuana is harmful, addictive, and is a "gateway" drug. And for the most part their minds are closed to even the most logical, sensible and well-documented arguments.

I live in a middle class retirement community where I occasionally try to reason with a brainwashed neighbor on the subject of marijuana prohbition. Some go blank and others react as if I'd recommended molesting children. One grandmother told me rather condescendingly how I can't possibly be right because she knows a uniformed policeman who "goes around to schools warning kids about that stuff" (obviously referring to the D.A.R.E. program). When I told her about one of those D.A.R.E. cops who was busted for statutory rape she refused to believe me and hasn't even said hello to me since.

Drug war propaganda has been very successful in brainwashing a significant percentage of Americans over the years and I recently learned that Obama has authorized a $66 million expenditure for anti-marijuana advertising.

President "Change."
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:24 AM
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27. Obama had better be careful in how he spends that 66 million.
Bennett was dangerously close to repeating the brain waves commercial when he said we've seen what it does to teenagers minds. The brain waves commercial is banned as false advertising. See: NORML v. Partnership for a drug free America.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 10:32 AM
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7. Now that the war on drugs is over. We The People can review it to determine if the "war" was treason
Let the treason trials begin! We can start with Bush I & Bennett.
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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 10:55 AM
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8. Typical Wolf Blitzer and CNN to put two people on that totally agree
and fail the correct their mistakes and inaccuracies. Putting someone on that supported legalization would mess-up their propaganda message. Why would i expect any different?
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:16 AM
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10. Well I doubt the Drug Czar would have come on with someone
challenging the current drug policy with FACTS!!
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Mike K Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:40 PM
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17. Exactly my thought.
This has been a technique employed by the corporate controlled media for as long as I can remember. I have never seen a true debate between one of these lying sonsabitches and a legalization advocate.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:12 PM
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11. Well,I managed to listen to this BS for almost a minute but couldn't make it any further
didn't even get to Bennett; hearing Obama's guy spew this crap was enough....I did like CNN's banner, alcohol vs. marijuana...sounds like a fun ballgame to watch. I always liked Bill Hicks' commentary on the war on drugs; that if we're losing the war on drugs, that means people on drugs are winning, and what does that tell you?
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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:35 AM
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24. You did better than I.
I can't even click on the video, I go into a fit of blind rage and start screaming, and my wife starts asking me who I am talking to. It is kind of embarrassing.
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BakedAtAMileHigh Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:55 PM
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12. The Only Prohibitionists Left Are Bloated Pus Bags like Bennett
Edited on Sat May-22-10 12:55 PM by BakedAtAMileHigh
and clueless clowns like the "Drug Czar', who is legally required to lie about marijuana as part of his job description.

Legalization is coming whether these asshats like it or not; the thing they should spend time worrying about is receiving forgiveness from all the innocent families whose lives have been ruined by their incompetence, prejudice and greed.
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 02:44 PM
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13. Questionable
I think the timeline that Bennett talks about where Marijuana use went from the mid-30% to 11% are at best questionable. I think the numbers being reported are much more a reflection of those doing the reporting than the number of people actually using the drug, in this case pot. There is also the chance that the numbers change not because more or less people are consuming but that more or less people are willing to admit they consume. How does the drop in admitted use correspond to the rise in drug testing in the country? Since the emphasis a criminal punishment in many areas of the country hasn't changed much over the years their claim that the dramatic fall in supposed use statistics is due to 'the war on drugs' is also questionable. Finally it amazes me that I have never seen a supporter of the war on drugs on tv that didn't lie to support their claims.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 03:19 PM
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14. May I add
who gives a crap whether legalization leads to slightly more or slightly less pot smoking? What the hell is wrong with smoking pot in the first place?
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Mike K Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:50 PM
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18. I don't know what timeline Bennett is referring to
but I regularly enjoyed marijuana throughout the sixties and seventies when it was decriminalized in New York City. I stopped using it when Reagan brought the hammer down by escalating the drug war. And I'm not the only one who stopped because of fear of arrest and because the bootleg prices went through the roof.

But I continue to be a strong advocate for legalization.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 03:44 PM
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15. Well, arrest Mr. Obama then....
Edited on Sat May-22-10 03:45 PM by liberation
... he has disclosed publicly to smoke dope in multiple occasions. I assume he will have no problem setting a good example, and turning himself in... to give a moral role model. You know, for the kids.
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Mike K Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:31 PM
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16. I'm sure Obama's response to that suggestion
would be to smile, look thoughtful, jokingly refer to the statute of limitations and quickly change the subject -- much in the way the deceitful bastard dismissed the question of legalization during his first Town Hall.

Obama has clearly demonstrated that he is not willing to even discuss legalization or decriminalization of something he has admitted to doing himself -- "frequently." And yet there are many among us who tenaciously defend him and regard him as their savior.

It's time we had a name for these deluded Tories and I suggest, OCIDs: Obama Chauvinists In Denial.

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MarshalltheIrish Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:15 PM
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20. The song remains the same
Makes me hope all the more the Tax Cannabis initiative here in California is approved this year. Looks like more than ever it'll have to be we the people to right this wrong and start the end of the War on Drugs while our government continues to sing the same tune.

Also, even though I didn't watch the clip...ugh, William Bennett?
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:32 PM
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21. 40,000 died from marijuana last year? WTF is this guy talking about?
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:36 PM
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22. He doesn't know...he's making it up as he goes along
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:33 AM
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23. Maybe the cops killed
That many people. It's the only answer that makes sense to me. LOL!
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YouGotRondod Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:09 AM
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30. Pretty sure
that he said 40K died from "drug use" not specifically pot. The excuses these guys are using against legalization hold no water. The people who want to smoke weed are going to regardless of whether it is legal or not, by making things illegal you just increase the desire to abuse it, just like on college campuses which was one of this clowns brilliant examples. They would be happy to put half the country in jail for non-violent drug offenses rather than legalize and control the substances like with alcohol and tobacco.
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skeptical cynic Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:40 AM
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25. Laws without legitimacy
bring the legitimacy of those who enforce them into question.

I'm not even going to waste my time watching the clip. The same old stupidity we've been hearing and ignoring for decades.

Someday the political fools will catch up with the people.

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Oldenuff Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 04:03 AM
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26. Same old tired arguments

How the hell are we supposed to have any confidence at all in our government,when the same old lies are trotted out every couple of years?

I'm sick and tired of the blatant BULLSHIT spread by our government on every topic from financial reform,to the war on terror.It's all hogwash and sleight of hand....maybe it's time to start clearing house...

Change we can believe in huh?
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 08:10 AM
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28. Bill Bennett
An extremely wealthy, gambling addicted elitist, who has lost million$ through his addiction.
His response? I can do what I damn well want.
The American memory is so conveniently short.
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Suji to Seoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 08:50 AM
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29. Hey, Billy. . .I have 10 100 RMB bills in my pocket. Want to bet that you are full of shit?
I heard you are a betting man. Double or nothing if you can prove that you are completely full of shit!
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YouGotRondod Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:12 AM
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31. Check these stats out
Tobacco 435,000
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,622
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
Homicide 20,308
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,000
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600
Marijuana 0
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 06:50 PM
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35. Great post.
Edited on Mon May-24-10 06:51 PM by wildbilln864
Welcome to the DU. Where's you get the statistics from and what is the time period? Annual?
Aspirin has killed more people than cannabis!? Amazing! Thanks. :hi:
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Obamaknowzz Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 04:47 PM
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32. The war on drugs, what a fucking joke!!! The goddamn CIA
runs the show. It is just a racket, like war.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 06:55 PM
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36. Exactly! Thank you.
Welcome to the DU. :hi:
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Obamaknowzz Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:41 PM
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38. Thanks, That PNAC quote you have is a classic.
:thumbsup:
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 08:02 PM
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39. my pleasure man! nt
:patriot:
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