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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:01 AM
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Passengers grabbed Israeli weapons to stop the killing
 
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http://www.juancole.com/2010/06/raid-survivor-says-he-disarmed-2-israeli-commandos-in-midst-of-shooting-rampage.html
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:11 AM
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1. The Israeli Government is fucked up. Wow. n/t
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:30 AM
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2. K+R This is tremendous video from an AMERICAN VETERAN!!!
Thanks for linking it.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:39 AM
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3. I am waiting for the human rights assessment - it looks like it is going to be
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 09:40 AM by peacetalksforall
a long list. Shame on the Likud Party. Shame on the IDF. Shame on the Rabbis who approve and fight for more war in all of its ugly manisfestations.

Or should we just be thankful that the ships were not blown up?

When was the last time that a military power country took away all possessions? How common is that?

Maybe the US at its prisons?

There is sickness in attempting to own earth resources unfairly.

Gaza - a foreign aid dependent ghetto.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:16 AM
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4. This is the guy who left the blood on for effect?
Okay. He messes with the timeframe BIGTIME. He puts the three Israeli commando prisoners LAST instead of first. But he didn't tell you they captured them last. He lets you assume it. So he not lying, he's just allowing you to get a completely wrong impression.

As for live rounds, damn straight they were. But Al Jazeera reported stun guns and rubber bullets. Riot control equipment.

You want to believe him, fine by me. Do a re-enactment. See if you can make his statement fit. LIVE fire, nine dead, thirty wounded, but plenty of time to grab SHOOTING COMMANDOS and lay them on the ground in fear of their lives surrounded by a hundred people who don't seem to be ducking bullets. Shouldn't they be busy tending to the wounded?

The Al Jazeera reporter gave a different timeframe. Commandos NOT shooting live rounds rappel down and are captured by beating them to a pulp. SECOND wave of commandos arrives shooting to kill because they have no idea how far the people of this boat are prepared to go.

TRY TO MAKE WHAT HE SAYS FIT WHAT YOU KNOW HAPPENED: Nine dead. Thirty wounded. But 100 just standing around staring at three terrified Israelis on the floor? Not bothering about dead or wounded?

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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:57 AM
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5. You know what would clear all this up? Israel releasing all the video, instead of tampering with it
But israel won't do that. To me that means they are the liars.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:49 PM
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8. bingo !
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YouGotRondod Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:06 AM
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6. There is no way you know what happened either
Stop trying to infer what happened on that ship. You don't know, I don't know, no one knows except the Israeli military and the people on those ships. The commandos should never have boarded the ship, I don't understand why they couldn't just escort the flotilla to an friendly port and inspect the ships there.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:46 PM
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7. This guy is such a tool.
Keep spinning, Mr. Human Shield.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:53 PM
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9. WHY WONT ISRAEL RELEASE THE FUCKING VIDEOS?
Why do they instead tamper with it and release highly edited minutes of it that makes them look good?
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 02:27 AM
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10. Well there's a good reason.
"After we started shooting, people started trying to grab our guns to stop us from shooting people, so we had to shoot them." doesn't sound nearly as good.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 03:33 PM
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11. The world, and especially the US, needs to hear this. - n/t
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