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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 01:41 AM
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Anderson Cooper Ruins Reasonably Good Exposé Of Breitbart With Yet More False Equivalencies
Edited on Fri Jul-23-10 02:21 AM by Turborama
 
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I used to really like Anderson Cooper but what he's been saying over the past 2 days has really infuriated me. :banghead:

Is there any way we can make him take notice of http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x487755">the challenges we've been giving him to back up his accusations with evidence?

ETA Here's the link to AC360's "Contact Us" page: http://edition.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?10

If enough of us write in to complain hopefully he'll take up the challenge and do some research into it, find his premise is based on a downright lie and retract these false accusations.

To paraphrase what he himself said below when raving about Frum's take on all this, how about admitting when YOU have made a mistake?

And to use Cooper's own favorite phrase...

"The Truth Matters!"



COOPER: Well, before this week, Shirley Sherrod certainly was not a household name. But Andrew Breitbart, the conservative blogger who posted the video that cost her, her job, is a star in conservative circles, a popular speaker with a big book deal.

The Sherrod incident is not the first story like this that he has been involved with.

Randi Kaye tonight takes us "Up Close."

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

KAYE (voice-over): In 2009, conservative blogger Andrew Breitbart made his first big splash. It was then he and a pair of conservative activists publicized a series of undercover stings against the federal housing group ACORN, a housing initiative that had publicly supported candidate Obama's campaign.

Breitbart posted videos of the stings on his Web site, BigGovernment.com. ACORN staffers were seen offering to set up a brothel for underage prostitutes. The video went viral. And a conservative star was born.

STEVE ADUBATO, AUTHOR, "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?": We're talking about a guy who, frankly, has an agenda, who -- who is not that concerned about context or facts.

KAYE (on camera): There were questions about the legality of the videos and whether they had been selectively edited to make ACORN look bad. Sound familiar? But it didn't matter. Breitbart got results. ACORN lost its federal funding and collapsed as a national organization.

(voice-over): Eric Boehlert from the progressive watchdog group Media Matters for America calls Breitbart a misinformation czar.

ERIC BOEHLERT, SENIOR FELLOW, MEDIA MATTERS: A propagandist and a bit of a charlatan and, as we have seen this week, sort of a character assassin. I mean, he likes to pretend he's doing journalism, but there's nothing he's doing that is remotely to journalism. He knowingly publishes false information, never posts corrections, doesn't retract. It's really -- he's really a one-man wrecking ball.

KAYE: We called Breitbart to get his take.

Do you consider yourself a propagandist? And do you have an agenda?

BREITBART: Somebody has to stand up to this type of bullyism that happens in the press and the journalism is corrupt. And I'm out there, to the best of my abilities and with my conscience, trying to right the wrong.

KAYE: But the ACORN and Shirley Sherrod incidents aren't the only times Breitbart has pumped out misleading information. In 2009, he posted videotape of community organizers praying, he said, to then president-elect Obama. He later conceded, after posting more of the tape, they might be praying to God.

(on camera): Breitbart has built up a small empire of Web sites, Breitbart.com, BigGovernment, BigJournalism, BigHollywood, and so on. Hits against the left translate directly to hits online. According to Breitbart.com, he serves up more than 20 million news page views each month to about three million unique visitors.

ADUBATO: We're talking about someone who understands our addiction to powerful videos, salacious video, audio taken out of context that says something dramatic. We take it. We use it. He loves it. He gets more attention. He understands what our hot buttons are.

KAYE (voice-over): That makes Breitbart a star in the conservative conference ticket. In the last year, he's spoken at, at least six Tea Party rallies and two big mainstream conservative conferences.

BREITBART: I love confrontation, by the way.

(LAUGHTER)

BREITBART: And, by the way, by the way, by the way, you should, too, because it's the only way we're going to win.

KAYE: Seems, the more controversial he gets, the faster his profile and profits grow. He got half-a-million dollar advance for his upcoming book, and says his Web sites are fully funded by advertisers.

He admits the reaction to how he handled the Shirley Sherrod tape has been mixed, but don't expect a mea culpa from him.

(on camera): Do you plan to apologize to Ms. Sherrod, or no?

BREITBART: Under -- what would -- what would warrant an apology?

KAYE: I'm asking you.

BREITBART: Did I even ask for an investigation of her? I am not the one that threw her under the bus. The Obama administration and the NAACP, which was in possession, according to itself, of the full video.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: Well, that's been his line all along, basically, since this has unraveled, that this wasn't about Shirley Sherrod; it's about the NAACP and says more about the Obama administration.

But, so, he has no plans, obviously, to apologize?

KAYE: Absolutely no plans, and he doesn't think that he needs to. I mean, he actually said it was the Obama administration's fault. It was not him that threw her under the bus.

But one thing that really struck me on the phone with him, Anderson, is how paranoid he seemed to be. He kept saying when we asked him about his funding and where his -- who his advertisers are, he kept saying to me, oh, are you going to start a campaign, stop advertising on Breitbart.com?

COOPER: Right.

KAYE: And -- and he was accusing us of looking into his background and...

COOPER: Right.

KAYE: ... and maybe he had racism in his background. He kept blaming the NAACP.

And I thought for sure you would have some questions for him tonight, so I invited him to come on the show live. And he said he couldn't. He was somewhere in the woods.

(CROSSTALK)

COOPER: Well, I think -- I read in Politico he started a three- day vacation that was long-planned. And fair enough.

KAYE: Sure.

COOPER: I'm glad we were able to have his voice on the program.

And we should point out, this is not necessarily even about Andrew Breitbart. I mean, this is not about conservative or liberal. There are many liberal bloggers who do the exact same kind of stuff.

KAYE: Absolutely.

COOPER: And it is just as odious. And -- and if a story like breaks on their side, we will point that out as well.

You know, it's not about targeting Andrew Breitbart.


KAYE: Right.

COOPER: It's about -- it's about this -- this -- what we're in now in this age, where it's all about factionalism.

KAYE: Yes.

COOPER: It's all about, you get hits to your Web site. The more outrageous you are, on the left or on the right, the more popular you become online.

KAYE: And he knows it, too.

COOPER: Yes.

Randi, appreciate it.


This segment is just as bad, if not worse...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0ksZqyRxW8

But first the blogger who slammed Shirley Sherrod, we're "Keeping Them Honest." He is the only actor in this dismal drama that has not apologized to Ms. Sherrod. And, in fact, he says he is the victim and that the Obama administration and mainstream media are out to destroy him.

He told Politico today -- quote -- "I am public enemy number one or two to the Democratic Party, the progressive movement and the Obama administration based upon the successes my journalism has had."

Now, calling what Mr. Breitbart does journalism is hard for those of us who actually check and try to be fair. I'm certainly not perfect, and have made mistakes, and have apologized for them. But journalism shouldn't be about left and right. It should be about the truth.

What Mr. Breitbart does and what others on the left and the right do may very well be what journalism has become, but it isn't certainly not what it should be. Mr. Breitbart also Politico -- quote -- "The desire here is to make it about me and not the Democratic establishment and the NAACP vs. the Tea Party."

That's been Mr. Breitbart's excuse since it was revealed that his video was not what he said it was. He claims this was never about Shirley Sherrod. In fact, he said to Sean Hannity -- quote -- "I could care less about Shirley Sherrod, to be honest with you."

That is the one thing he has said that is indisputable. He does not care about Shirley Sherrod, doesn't care about making false allegations against her or ruining her career. Andrew Breitbart has his ideology. He believes he is right. And in his mind that justifies any action he takes.

And that's how ideologues think on the left and on the right. Post a video clip that's misleading? No problem if it helps you make your argument, if it helps boost visitors to your Web site. Make false claims about a person? Why not, if it gets you more Web traffic?

That is where we are today. Andrew Breitbart is conservative. But, as I said, there are liberals online and on TV who do the exact same things. They cherry-pick the facts that prove their arguments, not the facts that reveal the truth.


David Frum, a conservative, said on this program last night the problem is not liberalism or conservatism. It's factionalism, seeing the world through your own limited political lens and never admitting when you have made a mistake, never admitting the other side may be right some of the time, never doing anything that damages your faction.

It's a game for people like Mr. Breitbart and others. They don't go out into the field and meet the people they're supposedly reporting on. They don't go out and challenge their assumptions. They stay behind a desk and see the world as black or white, left or right. And it's a lot more complex than that.


See how reichwing "contributor" Erick Erickson goes unchallenged when Cooper "tries to understand" this in the studio...


COOPER: Erick, you wrote on your blog that both sides of the political aisle are engaged in a tit-for-tat war of retribution -- and I quote -- "That war has casualties on both sides. Ms. Sherrod is the latest. It is not fair, but that's how the left plays, and the right must fight on the offense or not fight at all."

I mean, I don't -- I don't get -- as somebody who is not particularly partisan on the left or the right, I try not to view things through the lens of being liberal or being conservative. I don't get -- it just seems like, whether you're a conservative or whether you're a liberal and you have a blog, it doesn't seem like the truth really matters.

It's just, you say whatever you want to say, whether you're on the left or the right, to prove your point. And, if you're wrong, no one ever says they're wrong. No one ever seems to apologize.


(CROSSTALK)

ERICKSON: You're right. And, you know, that's -- the right is now having to deal with this conversation. And that's another conversation that needs to be had.

I think the right needs to fight back, because I believe this happens routinely, from left to right more often than right to left. But, at the same time, I don't think the right needs to adopt the tactics we condemn on the other side. I think that's wrong.

You -- you become the people you attack when you use their tactics over time. I just -- the whole situation, I find distasteful. But I'm -- I'm not going to condemn Andrew Breitbart for it.


BRAZILE: Well, I'm going to ask him to step up.

COOPER: But it seems like you're -- it seems like you're not going to condemn -- but it seems like you're saying you're not going to condemn him because he's on your side and that doesn't serve your overall purpose.

I mean, if somebody is wrong, I'm not saying condemn, but, if he's wrong, shouldn't he apologize?

ERICKSON: Yes, I said Andrew Breitbart was wrong. Maybe, if he thinks he's wrong, he will apologize. But he doesn't think he's wrong. And I'm not the guy to convince Andrew Breitbart of that.

I definitely think Shirley Sherrod was mischaracterized in the video.

COOPER: Donna, at the same time -- let me just argue the flip side of this -- this is also an opportunity that some on the left now are using to hammer conservatives and to hammer their enemies, to hammer Andrew Breitbart. It seems like both sides play this game, and I think a lot of people in America are just kind of sick of the game.

BRAZILE: Of course, Anderson.

Full transcript: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1007/22/acd.01.html
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 01:48 AM
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1. Write to him. Tell him he seems not to have benefited from his travels.
Edited on Fri Jul-23-10 01:49 AM by EFerrari
lol

There's a form linked at the bottom of the show's front page.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 01:59 AM
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2. I'm adding to the OP a link to the contacts page
Thanks for the suggestion.
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 04:15 AM
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5. done. nt
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 02:01 AM
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3. Wow, that is really bad. It's as if he couldn't say it enough.
Hi again, Turborama and thanks for this. I've been looking more into Breitbart and have found out a few interesting things that might explain why he gets away with so much in the media. I'll post it later or tomorrow when I have time. But he has friends in the media, that much I think is true and although they know he is a complete lunatic, once you have made some friends, you get a little more slack apparently, no matter how insane you are.

Someone must challenge AC to prove that there is a single blogger on the left, or in the media, who has deliberately set out to destroy the lives of tens of thousands of people, knowing that they are lying, but not caring.

There are tough bloggers but they don't lie, they don't edit tapes to create false impressions, they don't destroy lives.

AC needs to look a little deeper behind Breitbart who is merely a front for what has been a decades long movement to totally destroy the left in this country. Not just to win elections, but to destroy it.

I'm really disappointed, if he's not going to investigate this story fairly, and present Breitbart as some kind of 'star' which he is with the far right fringes of society only, then it would be better if he didn't cover it at all.

I wonder why he is making such a big deal over including liberals? He's actually doing what he says he so against, he is not telling the truth. So sad. Rachel and Keith are the only real journalists who are fearless as far as telling the truth. I suppose we are lucky to at least have two since there used to be none.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 07:44 AM
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12. Yeah, and it got even worse
Hi Sabrina. I'm not sure if you caught it but I added another segment of the transcript where he expresses faux naivete and exposes where he's picking this stuff up from, reading right wing blogs like the one Erick Erickson runs, redstate.com. I've found the video of that section, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJRWkTa0zYo

I agree, he seems to be all about making it a celebrity match up thing rather than thinking and actually 'looking deeper', another tagline he loves to use. After this I have lost any respect I ever had for him as a journalist. Which is a shame because I thought he was one of the only few real journalists on CNN.

As you say, this is all a part of a decades long movement to totally destroy the left. And, sadly, it seems Anderson Cooper has become a part of it. Just look at how he converses with Erickson as if he's some kind of political sage when in fact he's just another master of reichwing doublespeak.

It's such a shame that the White House gave up it's attempt last year to counter Faux's continuous barrage of disinformation. Look how well caving in worked out for them.

This should be inserted as a signature in all of the administration's emails:

"Fox News is not a legitimate news organization. Legitimate news organizations do not assert their First Amendment right to lie to the American public."

:hi:
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 01:43 PM
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26. Yes, I just read the second segment. It's as if someone
wrote it into the script over and over again. Maybe the fact that they are even dealing with someone like Breitbart makes them nervous, because they certainly haven't done it before. So they feel compelled to show how fair and balanced they are.

It is terrible journalism. He is reporting on a story and that's all he needs to do without veering off into apologizing for having to do it in case the right gets upset. Bad, just as bad as what he is criticizing.

He certainly cannot criticize the WH for reacting out of fear of the right when he is doing the exact same thing.

As for him interviewing Erik Erikson from Redstate, why would he go to such a partisan source to cover this story? What a distraction from the real story.

He should stay with those directly involved in the story and not bring in this left/right spin to try to deal with it.

I agree, losing respect for him. He is either frightened of the right, as the WH appears to be, or he is a conservative trying to be fair in this case.

My opinion, CNN has been trying to be like Fox for a long time now. They have lost rather than gained an audience as a result. If they used people like AC to just cover the facts, to get back to real jounnalism, they would leave Fox in the dust.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 02:08 AM
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4. If there are bloggers on the left who falsify videos or edit them
so that the videos do not represent the truth, I haven't heard of them. They don't seem to be on TV.

How does the treatment of Dan Rather after all his years at CBS compare to Breitbart's at Fox News.

Dan Rather did one piece that was questioned, not really ever disproved, yet he lost his job at CBS. Just wait, Breitbart will be back on Fox News with more of his absurd reports in the future. Would love to see what Jon Stewart would do with this story.
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 04:35 AM
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6. He sounds afraid to me
Maybe that is why it's easier to go after people on the left. And if you do go after the right, you better soften the blow. Or else.
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pearl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 05:27 AM
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7. My thoughts on AC from last night
It sickened me to hear him say the left has done the same thing which is a Lie.
I just thought AC is either stupid or he's lying. I guess I would prefer stupid. Then there is the concept of "Willful Ignorance" or "criminal stupidity" I also have little confidence in these feedback emails even getting read by human eyes.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 09:12 AM
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18. That's my take on it. My first thought on viewing the OP was
that somebody got to him. It's not over the top, IMO, to compare the extreme RW to Nazi thugs. Vicious and without compunction.

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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 06:33 AM
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8. Cooper has been promoted beyond his level of competency. nt
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 07:10 AM
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9. Yes, let Cooper know how you feel
Sent him a little e-mail and politely asked him to put up or shut up. What I asked him was that if he had examples of left wing bloggers doing the same kind of editing of audio and video to give false impression then show us. I also pointed out that it is not balanced journalism to point out false equivalencies.

Another point I made was that even if there are left wing bloggers doing this there is one big difference. Unlike Mr. Breitbart they don't have a cable 'news' (and I use the term lightly) company to run with their lies.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 09:23 AM
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19. just point out hes dong EXACTLY what breitbart is doing!!
Edited on Fri Jul-23-10 09:24 AM by iamthebandfanman
claiming something is news without proof!!
and im not talkinga bout some fringe guy who nobody pays attention too


i want him to find someone on the left who gets as much traffic and as many views and is as 'mainstream' as this guy likes to think he is.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 07:23 AM
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10. OK, I get what AC is trying to do...
However, if it is truly fair and balanced reporting AC is after then he should GIVE EXAMPLES of how those on the left are manipulating facts to destroy people's lives!Instead of just saying the same conduct exist on the left as much as it does on the right that is not fair and balanced reporting that is just a milder version of what Brietbart is doing.

This is the entire problem with MSM these days they are TERRIFIED of being labeled BIAS by FOX "News" for reporting the facts...Because right now in this moment in time the facts do tend to lean toward the left in many cases. I think this is what scares them! They do their job and see the facts do tend to support what the left is saying but if they report it like that then they will be accused of being bias. So, they have to jump through hoops to make each and every story feel as if it is fair and balanced. SAD!
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 08:08 AM
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14. Agreed 1000%! n/t
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 07:43 AM
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11. I wrote him
CNN has gone downhill since they fired Peter Arnett which apparently came from the Pentagon. Then they let Michael Ware go. I have no respect nor desire to watching anything on CNN.


http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/apr1999/cnn-a22.shtml">Pentagon pressure behind CNN firing of Peter Arnett
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 07:50 AM
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13. And they let Christiane Amanpour go after 20 years
Edited on Fri Jul-23-10 07:52 AM by Turborama
Actually she was there from 1987 but started working as an international correspondent in 1990. I don't know if you've ever seen CNN International but the difference between domestic CNN and CNNI is like night and day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christiane_Amanpour#CNN

PS Thank you for writing to him, hopefully enough DUers will do the same and it will become an irresistible force. :fistbump:
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 08:51 AM
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17. Your comment on CNN and CNNI is spot on. I first saw (and heard of).....
.........CNNI by accident sitting in a dentist office about 4 yrs ago (and I am 63). It showed me at the time that the US media at the very least "self-censors" itself. I was fucking shocked when I first saw CNNI, since I did not know it existed. I believe that Time mag has the same kind of deal with a different version for "foreign" readership. CNN has been shit ever since Ted Turner sold it. Blitzer is a fucking laughable clown and that fat ass Candy Crowley should be getting paid by the RNC. I didn't even realize that Ware was gone, who was an excellent reporter (and a little crazy too). I very rarely watch CNN any more.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 10:20 AM
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21. yes..CNNI as well
Use to watch Blitzer to see Cafferty only. Crowley..well she is as milk toast as Blitzer and yes the bias is pretty obvious. Michael had requested a leave of absence as his time spent in Iraq for so long was taking a toll on him. They refused. Then they did a dance and pony show.

here's some of it here: http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2010/05/03/michael-ware-ptsd-misunderstanding/">Michael Ware PTSD "Misunderdstanding"
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 10:08 AM
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20. oh gosh forgot
about Christiane..Huge mistake on their part..she was great..thanks for providing the link
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 08:15 AM
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15. Anderson Cooper Just Lied about the Left... how ironic
and yes, I believe Breitbart has some friends in the media, and yes the owners of the media are leaning to the right.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 08:18 AM
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16. Hey Anderson and Matt Lauer, and all of you that are saying
that this kinda stuff happens on the left as well, name them please! We want the names of these left wing blogs that are destroying peoples careers over lies. I know you cant name them cause it doesnt exist. These people are fucking liars.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 11:14 AM
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22. Matt Lauer, alsl? It must be yesterday's talking point? Others, too?
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 11:50 AM
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23. Anderson Cooper, that was pathetic.
This was about Breitbart and this was about a sizable percentage of the corporate media willing to blindly promote his race baiting, distorted, out of context propaganda without any consideration as to first investigating the story in depth or getting a rebuttal.

This coming after Breitbart's heavily edited clips of ACORN had already been discredited, even Shep Smith knew Brietbart wasn't a source to be trusted, so it is about Brietbart and it is about the corporate media spewing destructive propaganda; selling the American People down the river by distorting the truth.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x488270

Thanks for the thread, Turborama.

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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 12:30 PM
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24. Yet another reason I won't watch CNN
"both sides play the game"? He knows it isn't true. I think he is saying what his bosses want him to say.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 12:40 PM
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25. I'm waiting for Cooper to provide an example of the left doing anything
remotely similar. :shrug:
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