Young Turks: School Bus Bullies Confronted By Dad Debate

Run time: 06:53 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZQZJgDCIY0   Posted on YouTube: September 18, 2010 By YouTube Member: TheYoungTurks Views on YouTube: 12168   Posted on DU: September 20, 2010 By DU Member: CherylK Views on DU: 1749

 
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/division-dads-schoolbus-outburst/story?id=11671261

we had a guy come onto our bus in eighth grade because we (not me but other busmates) mooned him.He raged on us and our bus driver got him off the bus and he got cited. I have no idea what happened to the guy. We all got in trouble, but it didn't change anyone's behavior. We were still flicking off motorists. And again, I don't specifically remember if I was a culprit or just an instigator.

We had multiple incidents on my school bus 'back in the day'. Violence, sexual acts and other problems were addressed by various school administrators.

I remember once incident in particular where the Catholic school principle, a nun, got the whole thing wrong. She meted out punishment in a way that included the victims. Injustice by the Catholic Church, imagine that.

I'm sure glad those days are over.

Getting caught and punished?

I'm glad I no longer have to ride a school bus, lol.

wtf else are they both going to say?

That boy isn't going to admit his guilt to anyone, even if he is responsible
for harassing that girl.

I don't believe either of these two.

forbidden; might hurt their tender little feelings) uh... pupils in the school systems.

(That is not to say that all middle school students are mean bulliers, maybe not even the majority. But most will allow the bullies to bully anyone as long as it isn't themselves. And they will not turn in the bullies under almost any circumstances. Even the victims, because they know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that there will be a high price to pay.)

If they are called up for bullying, physically or otherwise, a fellow student, they will makde very sure that the bullied student will pay for the culprit being caught.

Some kids are targeted by bullies (not unlike the child with cerebral palsy). I doubt very much that the teasing and bullying has stopped for her because of her father's (justifiably) angry reaction. The torturous teasing and bullying have most likely just gone underground.

The kids who are targeted by the bullies lose their self-esteen abd feel ashamed for being bullied. They begin to hate school and are left with scars that last for years.

I truly understand that father's reaction. But it didn't do his daughter, his family, or himself any good. I wish it did, but it most likely will not.

so I am on that scene. From what I see, bullies like to pick on the ones that are easy targets. If you fight back (even if you lose) they'll move on for easier prey. I really hope the father scared the crap out of the kids on the bus, and leave the poor girl alone. I know I tell my bookish son (little for his age and wears glasses) to hit and hit hard. I know it sounds wrong, but the kids don't operate under the same rules as the adults.

to take me on. It is not easy to stop a bully with no sense of right and wrong and parents who refuse to believe that their little angel could ever be anything but perfect.

Said child ripped a pair of glasses off the face of another student who was passing by and threw them across the hall where another student, unalbe to stop in time crunched the glasses underfoot. The bully received two days in-school-suspension and the mother insisted that the kid whose glasses were destroyed had to be to blame for the incident.

Said child was probably the easy target because he wore bifocals and wasn't agressive. Kids who are "different" or who have noticeable handicappes, even just an occasional stutter, are "easy targets" for bullies.

in light of the suicides, beatings & even a case where a boy was set fire. Our schools here have a zero policy on bullying and they address it often. My daughter just had to write an essay on it (to start the year). I hope the efforts work.

Otherwise, I think he did good. My kids were all bullied. For my oldest, it stopped when he finally punched one offender. For my youngest, it stopped when my ex hb witnessed my son being kicked by one of a group of three kids, and he confronted the kids very much the way this father did. With my oldest, I pursued all the regular, accepted channels and she was terrorized until she went through puberty and became totally hot and therefore popular. Sad, but predictable.

When the same kids are persistently little assholes and nobody else is doing anything, do we just sit back and wait for them to grow out of it? The kid my older son punched in fifth grade was jailed this summer. He never grew out of it, but he did leave my kid alone.

Intervene early on with counseling or incarceration and the good kids won't have to be tortured by the mentally unstable.

But then I guess we'd cut the CEO and Republican congress critter population in half... :hide:

If he'd tried those other avenues first, and gotten no satisfaction, I would have zero problem with anything this guy did-- including threatening the bus driver.

I told the kids that if anyone laid a finger on my son again, I would press criminal charges.

I'm know the teasing and psychological bullying did not stop, but some of the physical bullying did.

Although I found out when he was a freshman that he was so afraid of what I would do to stop the kids, he stopped letting me know anything about it. Until my son was suspended from school because one of the other kids pushed him into the path of a moving car in our neighborhood no where near the school. Apparently, expressing outrage to himself (after he jumped out of the way of the car, dropping all of his belongings) at what could have ended in my son's serious injury or even death is a punishable offense ... As bad as the reckless endangerment of my son by the bully.

My son fianlly stood up to the bully in his junior year when the bully started picking on a sophomore with cerebral palsy. "I don't care what you do to me, but when you start picking on someone I look on as a younger brother, you've gone to far. Stay away from ***** or I will stop you." Another student did similarly and the bully stayed away from the sophomore. Sometimes, the only way the bullying stops is when the studentes themselves stop the bullies. Sad as that is.

The condom part sickens me. What horrors must that little girl have been thinking during this ordeal? This is not normal and those responsible should be prosecuted.

And why aren't there any video cameras on these buses? And why were these "children" totally unsupervised to the point of -dare I say it- sexual abuse against this young girl? What is wrong with our society.

America needs jobs..who not hire a part time attendant...planted in the middle of the bus.

living wage some bennies.

just saying.

put an adult in the middle of these kids...you would stop seeing these school bus altercations.

Four hundred teachers in two years in my school district. The district is now hiring associate teachers at just over half the pay of a regular contract teacher to meet the requirements for the classroom size amendment (much needed, by the way).

Text book prices have gone up to the point that they are close to unaffordable. (Text book companies are going to price themselves right out business if this keeps up. There are many other means of getting less costly but just as, if not more, effective as the text books.)

Our schools have reconfigured heating and air conditioning to say amazing amounts in electric power needs and it is all being eaten up by costs and by the failure of the state legislature to adequately fund education. The school taxes we pay as a separate tax does not go directly to the schools.

Many school districts across the country are limiting bus transportation because they cannot afford it. If they can just barely fit in bus transportation, how the heck can they afford to pay bus attendants? Maybe something could be worked out so that volunteers could take on that duty, but I believe there are some liablility problems that keep school districts from using that means of bus monitoring.

But unfortunately the Seattle School District chose to eliminate my union job in 2002, cutting loose hundreds of very experienced bus drivers - I was still considered a "junior driver" at 7 years - and bring in a non-union contractor whose most senior driver MIGHT have had 7 years.

I don't know whether the situation in the OP is similar, but I can just say that bullying on school buses is preventable with a good, experienced driver who cares about the well-being of the students they are transporting.

If it was happening to my child, I'd first find out exactly who the culprit was and then would arrange to humiliate the parents & their child in front of all the kids that were on the bus.