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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 07:12 PM
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Young Turks: Ban On Screaming Kids at Restaurants, Movies??
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjDuWRh2kw0
 
Posted on YouTube: September 22, 2010
By YouTube Member: TheYoungTurks
Views on YouTube: 7103
 
Posted on DU: September 23, 2010
By DU Member: CherylK
Views on DU: 773
 
http://consumerist.com/2010/09/restaurant-bans-screaming-kids.html

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 07:20 PM
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1. Kids are such easy targets. With all the stuff we have going on in the world,
why kids-in-restaurants is such an issue -- I just don't understand.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 08:59 PM
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4. Kids under 3 follow their own inner clock and do whatever they want to
at any given time, including scream. Family friendly restaurants are places people should understand this about infants and toddlers.

Kids over 3 are learning about the world outside themselves and are more amenable to discipline. If a preschool or school age kid is raising hell while the parents are utterly oblivious, then a "KNOCK IT OFF!" from a stranger is indicated.

Getting barked at by a stranger usually packs a wallop, too.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 10:35 PM
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5. My point is I don't understand why children in restaurants seems to be
such a major issue in people's lives. Not when we have so many REAL problems to worry about.

I eat out at a variety of places and other people's kids don't bother me. And in stores, other people's kids don't bother me. And in airplanes, I just feel sorry for babies and their ears.

My own young kids DID cause me stress out in the world, because it is WORK to help them stay calm and behaved. But those other kids -- the ones I'm not responsible for -- I hardly notice. I can't even remember the last time I was annoyed by someone else's child.

One thing though -- when you see a child over 3 that isn't "behaving." You never know the whole story. The child might have ADHD or a form of autism or might have a terrible stress going on at home. Your particular method of handling the situation might actually be the very worst thing for that particular child. Unless they are physically intruding into your space, I'd just leave them alone. Then count you're blessings that you're returning to a quiet home.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:19 PM
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11. Oh, yeah, if I'm in a family friendly restaurant, I cut parents and kids
a tremendous amount of slack. I save the "KNOCK IT OFF!" for the ones who are running around and screaming and pulling stuff off tables, that sort of thing.

After all, I don't have to go home with the leather lunged little monsters.

I'm a little amazed by people who think they have a constitutional right to go through life never being offended. Those are the people who are making a big deal out of babies with sore ears yelling on planes and little kids using their "outside voice" in a family restaurant.

Meh.
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AmandaMae Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 08:06 PM
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2. there are more important things going on right now.
I don't get why this has been talked about so much lately.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 08:14 PM
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3. 3.5
It's a three and a half minute clip (from the social commentary hour which typically has lighter stories) from a 3 hour show. And predictably this video is getting a lot more attention on YouTube than the video about Larry Summers leaving the White House.

Also, there are ALWAYS 'more important things' going on. I understand the sentiment but if taken to its logical conclusion we can never discuss anything other than life or death issues 100% of the time. That's a surefire recipe for incredible stress and eventual burnout. Sometimes it's nice to lighten things up, and besides, it's not celebrity gossip or something along those lines.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 10:36 PM
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6. If you want to lighten things up, let's complain about smokers or drunks.
Not kids.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 10:53 PM
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7. It's not about the kids, it's about parents who don't handle the situation well.
It depends on the restaurant obviously, in some restaurants it's expected and makes sense. If you watch the clip Cenk talks about his experience being a new dad and how he handles things.

And in movie theaters (again, as it says in the clip) it makes no sense.

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 10:56 PM
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8. I see many many more posts every week by people who are annoyed by kids
than I ever actually see any annoying kids. And it's not like I'm hiding in my house all day. Where are these terrible kids? How come I'm not running into them?

Or maybe this has mostly to do with the sensitivities of those annoyed . . . .
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:01 PM
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9. Maybe
I'm child-free and happy so I'm at one extreme (admittedly). Of course in this case it's probably not a good idea to generalize based on personal experiences, for either of us.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:17 PM
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10. But that's what people keep doing -- generalizing about kids,
and in a negative way.

Annoying people come in all shapes, sizes, ages, etc.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:25 PM
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12. ...
Because of their age they're more likely to be crying in public, I think that's a fair point. People don't like loud, obnoxious cell phone talk in restaurants or movie theaters either, and they (rightfully) complain about it all the time.

But the parents of adults can't control this behavior, obviously. In the case of kids the parents have some control (Cenk's example of his baby at the Greek restaurant for example).
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jennied Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:49 PM
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13. If it's too much to ask parents to have their kids under control, then something is seriously wrong
in our society. Forget about the child's situation. If you know your kid has some behavioral faults, prone to screaming, or unfortunately even has autism, etc. Then just don't take your kid to a restaurant where you know you'll bother people. It's common sense, isn't it? Why would you want to sit there with your child screaming in the first place? My first feeling would be embarrassment and awkwardness. How are you as a parent supposed to enjoy a nice family evening out when your kids aren't under control or can't be controlled? If for some reason you know your kid is louder or more hyper than the average child then go to a kid friendly place so all customers know what they are getting into when they walk through the door. Plus kids can let out their energy in a more accepting environment. Win, win. I don't fault the restaurant for wanting their customers to enjoy their meal without screaming, wild kids, especially if that's not the sort of ambiance they want for their restaurant.


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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 12:10 AM
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14. You make a whole lot of sense. More than some others who
seem to think bringing loud kids to quiet restaurants is a Constitutional right.

I have no problem with well behaved kids in restaurants, but if parents can't control kids, they should go the McDonalds or somewhere better suited for loud uncontrollable kids..

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