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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 08:42 AM
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Secret Jail Uncovered In Baghdad
 
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According to Human Rights Watch, in Iraq, elite security forces controlled by the military office of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki of Iraq are operating a secret detention site in Baghdad. The group also says the elite forces are also torturing detainees with impunity at a different facility in Baghdad.

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forty6 Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 08:46 AM
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1. Just plain revolting that this would go on. All those American lives ..
lost, and a trillion dollars later there's less democracy in Iraq than there is in Egypt today.

That a secret jail is allowed to exist so many years after Abu Ghraib? Just nauseating!
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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 08:47 AM
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2.  Secret Jail Uncovered in Baghdad
Detainees Describe Torture at Another Facility Also Run by Elite Security Forces

BAGHDAD - February 1 - Elite security forces controlled by the military office of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki of Iraq are operating a secret detention site in Baghdad, Human Rights Watch said today. The elite forces are also torturing detainees with impunity at a different facility in Baghdad, Human Rights Watch said.

http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2011/02/01-5
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 08:52 AM
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3. I really don't understand. ONE of the reasons bush gave for going into Iraq
was that Saddam was a brutal dictator who tortured his people. HOW can that still be going on? What is the U.S. role in this? We spend mindless amounts of the treasury in Iraq and human rights are still grossly violated.

Thanks for posting this video. I had no idea. Thought at least this aspect of the old Iraq had be eradicated.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 11:20 AM
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4. First of all, the multitude of reasons that Bush gave
for invading and occupying Iraq were lies. And the reasons changed on a weekly basis, as we all remember.

We invaded Iraq because we wanted to control their oil, among other things. I'm not saying that you don't already know this. Saddam was, at one time, a CIA asset (wasn't everybody?) and we were instrumental in bringing him to power. Then, when he displeased us, his days were numbered.

The US Corporatocracy hasn't ever given a rat's ass about democracy anywhere in the world, and that includes, most recently, in Egypt. We were perfectly happy to support the torturer Mubarak and his thugs for 30 years, as long as the natives didn't get restless. When things started to get dicey, though, we started bleating about "democracy". As if. My fear is that the new regime will look very much like the old, just as we have ensured in Iraq.

Which brings me back to the point of the OP....A couple weeks ago there was a segment on NPR - a reporter in Iraq talking about conditions there. A woman approached him. She was sobbing. She said her son had been taken away; she hadn't heard from him in over a year. She didn't know if he was alive or dead.

Here's the kicker...She said that conditions in Iraq, now, were the same as they had been under Saddam. Heartbreaking!

So, here we are...eight years on. All the lives lost - both American and Iraqi. All the tens of billions of dollars thrown down a rat hole, that could have provided a safety net for our own people. And essentially nothing has changed.

And Pres. Obama says, "We don't torture." Of course we don't, Mr. President. We just rendition people to another country, or avert our eyes while others do our dirty work for us.

Sickening!





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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 03:04 PM
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8. I agree with all that you have said. I think of the families, both U.S.
and Iraqi who have lost family members to this debacle and it's gut wrenching. We need to be out of Iraq....yesterday.
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WhoIsNumberNone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:41 PM
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5. "Camp Justice"? "Camp Honor"?
What sickeningly ironic misnomers!
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:49 PM
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6. K&R.
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floriduck Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:56 PM
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7. I just wrote to both of my senators and included a copy of the
link to view it. I told them I expect this torture practice to stop now.

At least I took some action. I encourage all of you to do whatever you can.
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