Kid fights back against a bully, gets suspended

Run time: 00:42 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv_oQ9EvIrM   Posted on YouTube: March 16, 2011 By YouTube Member: exklsly Views on YouTube: 305   Posted on DU: March 16, 2011 By DU Member: Very_Boring_Name Views on DU: 4365

 
Clearly self defense. The mom of the bully is trying to sue the victim too.

http://www.salon.com/entertainment/tv/feature/2011/03/15/casey_heynes_bully_fail/index.html

I don't really agree with the author of the article. I don't condone violence, and I'm not one of those people who argues the old lame line that it would put an end to the problem of bullying if we just taught all the kids how to fight, but I have no problem with this guy fighting back. The bullied kid fought back, got it done, and walked off- it's not like he even started taunting the bully or kicking him when he was down or anything.

And, hey, maybe the cocky little shit of a bully won't keep acting like such a cocky little shit, if only because there's now video of him getting his ass kicked that's traveled all over the world.

the bullying victim was supposed to do. We are told only that isn't the whole thing a sad case.

Bottom line is that the author thinks it's sad that the bully has to live with the consequences of his actions, and somehow that's not right because he is only 13. Horse poop. A grazed knee and wounded pride is a small price to pay for picking on someone of whatever size.

I highly doubt the author would say the same thing if the body type of each kid fit the stereotypical mold (bully being the big, overweight one, and the one being bullied the skinny kid). Since the bully was "scrawny" it was somehow wrong for the victim to have fought back.

But i dont think anybody would have believed that the tiny cockroach was the bully in the situation. I picked on weaker kids in my grade school but I always respected weight and size difference.

Bullying in schools is a huge political issue, especially with the white house launching anti-bullying initiatives. Part of the problem is that when kids actually stand up for themselves, they get in trouble.

They don't tolerate bullying or violence but the boy's father and many students say it's a regular occurrence.

If someone walks up and punches you in the face, you shouldn't be required to "take it" for fear of the school coming down on you for defending yourself.

Everyone has a tipping point where they "see red" and primitive survival and violence instincts kick in. It's human nature and really natural. I suppose rules are rules and the school has to abide by the rules that are set down.

A call home to inform the parents of the situation, yes, but considering this kid was being punched in the face, pushed up against a locker and surrounded by the bully and 3 or 4 friends, how else do they expect him to respond?

Applies to both bullies and victims.

They expect the kid to take it and then run to the school administrators and tell them what happened at which point it becomes a he said/he said situation and nothing is done.

X_X , although seriously I only had one bully who was smaller than me. So I really can't say who's the bully in that video. Most of the bully's I knew were either Fatter than me or just as big as me. And mostly on the football team. (high school) before that still pretty much the same height.. it was my glasses that always set it off.

but it never applies to both bullies and victims! 99 out of a 100 times it only applies to the victim! And any kid who 'takes it' and then dares tell the school administrators what happened to them are treated like tattle tales, etc.

Many teachers hands are tied in this issue and they have to send the 'tattle tale' to the principle. It is just a unwelcome issue for the principle to deal with and that makes both the teacher and the student just another bother for the principle.

The administrators just want it to go away! It's just to much bother to deal with!

At least in my experience. My step kids were both bullied in school. If they retaliated in any way, they were suspended. Once my step daughter was threatened with suspension for reporting an incident to the principal. Many administrators just want the problem to go away, and don't care how it happens. Not all....but some.

to me. Chris Hedges has a great piece on truthout.org about how "Power concedes nothing without s demand". It talks about how liberals have lost their power by compromise and concession.

...but as an obese person all my life, and nerdy member of the chess team as well I was frequently picked on by people. The worst of which was the small guys. There was this one kid who had a real napoleon complex who would throw whatever he didn't like from the lunch his mother packed for him at me on the way to school on the bus. I can't remember how many carrot sticks of radishes got stuck in my hair as kid but it was more than the usual. There was another small person who decided it would be fun to throw mud and me when I just got a brand new down filled coat as I walked home.

It did slow up a bit in junior year in high school when one normal sized bully found out the hard way that I had been training in martial arts for years. He charged at me after study hall after I made a sarcastic reply to an insult he said to me. I reacted instinctively as I was startled. The only reason I did not pound his head into a concrete pillar is it happened outside the teachers lounge and one of my favorite teachers yelled my name and stop real loud and it broke me out of my blind rage. Real silly thing about it was even though the guy who attacked me had been suspended for fighting before he was not suspended or expelled because of a stupid 'equal punishment' policy for fighting. Like I had a choice in the fight. So we both spent a week in after school detention.

So from personal experience many people pick on the big guys knowing frequently that can't run as fast and more frequently they are held to a higher standard because of their size.

He's a BIG kid, tall, large-boned and heavy-set. He gave up football to play the cello.

One of the kids in special ed for behavioral issues was mainstreamed into one of my son's classes. For some reason, this kid decided he didn't like my son and started saying things to him in the hall between classes. My son knew the kid had anger management issues, so he just ignored it. A few days later, at the start of class, my son came in and sat down at his desk. It was a Monday and my son had gone fishing and gotten sunburned the day before. The other kid started slapping my son's sunburned neck, over and over. (Although this special ed student was never supposed to be in any regular classroom without his Special Ed para present, the school made this para watch the halls during class changes.) My son tried to ignore it; finally jumped up and yelled, "Stop it!" The other student, who was a half-foot shorter and about 100 lbs lighter than my son, leaped on my son and started choking him. My son got the kid's hands off his throat, got him in a bear hug, slammed him up against a wall, and just held him there until the para could get there and restrain the other kid.

The principal called, told me she KNEW it wasn't my son's fault--and he STILL got a citation from the campus police officer and had to go to court and do community service. The special ed kid, because he was in a Behavior Improvement program, did not get a citation (although the school district shipped him off to another campus with a more restrictive BI unit.) Even though the school was at fault because it failed to provide adequate supervision for a special ed student, my son got to spend 20 hours doing community service. I wish we could have afforded to get an attorney.

are you sure you're on the right forum?

i thought only republicans did that.

Serves the little bastard right to get thrown down like that.

with the US today.

No way that kid should have been suspended. He was attacked and after neutralizing the aggressor walked away. And the kid's mom is trying to sue? As a father, if my son pulled that kind of crap I would let him know he had it coming. Of course that wouldn't come up since he isn't a delinquent like that little brat. A word of advice to the victim's family... press criminal charges. That's an open and shut case of assault and self defense.

But if you do fight...win!

Very_Boring_Name

Suspesion for this????. He shold get a medal, for standing up for a bully who might have bullied this kid for a long time.. I also got suspended in 1 grade, for trowing a stone to a person, who had been bullied me from day one. I allmoust killed the **** but was afraid for telling anything about it home.. It was first when I got a suspention for a week they got to know home, what I experienced on the way to school on a regular basis.. My old man could to "Magic" as he drove over to the familiy whoes son did this.. And asked what really happend... And the truth got out, he and a few others had been bullied me for a long time.. Even doing their best to set me on fire! The intervetion of my head master who was driving on the road, stooped them on their tracks to it.. But it was just pur luck as the head master usaly was not driving that way anyway...

This shild should not be punished, but rather be condoned for standing up, for the bully and to tell enough is enought...

I wish I have had the guts to fight back when I was in grade school... I was to terrified to really fight back and the few times I did I allmoust destroyed them.. I guess I would have saved myself a lot of grief if I had beated the hell out of them instead of trying to hide and not be in their "aysight".. I still have nightmares of grade school, even tho I am 34 year old now... And have not been to any of the re-unions at grade school or high school.. It is still to painfull to face some of theme..

The mom of this, should be sued for beeing a bad parent who was not able to LEARN THEIR SHILDREN how to treat others.. But I guess, she also was/is a bully who is just learning their children to be as she was...

Cudos to the child, even tho he "Might" get out little hard there... But everyone I have talked to, who had seeing this, have said, the kid get what he deserved, many times over (the bully)

Diclotican

OWNAGE! I'm happy this lil shit stain got fucking rocked. What comes around hits the ground i guess lol. Good job Casey for standing up for yourself. And at the end he walks away LIKE A BOSS!

Perhaps throwing the kid to the ground is over the top, but I can understand Casey's anger and in the heat of the moment (after who knows how long he's been taunted) that anger becomes uncontrolled.

I've told my kids they should never instigate anything and they should try to walk away from bullies if possible. But I've also told them they have every right to defend themselves if they're being assaulted.

The little punk in this video and his mother need to take this incident as a life lesson and move on a little bit wiser than they were before.

So I guess Casey figured body slamming the kid was a viable alternative.

I told him when he was in grade school to hit really hard at the nose so there is lots of blood and then dirty fight--kick or punch in the balls. If you are going to be suspended, you might as well make it worth your while and make the incident very strong in the bully's (and everyone else's) memory. Make an impact, so to speak. I felt taking it and then being doubted would be detrimental to self- competence-- a major developmental task in those years. I don't want him to walk through life in fear of others. These days kids don't fight one on one, it is 3-5 that gang up on one. Better to make your reputation as one not to be effed with early on. When I was in high school it was one against one and witnesses, no weapons. Times have changed.

He has never had trouble with fighting though. He is tall so I suspect the bullies had easier pickings.

He has been suspended for other things: Once he wrote eminem lyrics on the back of a math test when he finished early and it had words about shooting in it. He was not interested in shooting anything, just really liked the song and was really into music. The school required that I get him psychologically analyzed before returning. I wonder what they would have required if he had been stuck on a song about revolution or sex.

The second time they found he had taken a picture of a soft-porn type website on his cell phone. He had in school suspension for that.

These happened in 7th grade. The first year of middle school is really wild with boys. I think it is all the hormones.

He has had no trouble since-- that I know of.

A work friend has to drive her kids to school because of bullying on the bus. Her kid is big but is bullied and does not want to hurt anyone else. She thinks the bullying is racially motivated but I disagreed. I think bullies are bullies and will find any reason to do it. It may perhaps play a role in lack of support among his peers though.

http://rackjite.com/archives/6742-Video-of-bullying-victim-bodyslamming-his-bully-goes-viral,-both-boys-punished.html

I think the instigator got what he deserved. The school MUST follow through on bullying policies; otherwise, it ends like this. The adults must be responsible.

The victim did the right thing