New DNC ad against Paul Ryan's Medicare Killing Plan - Awesome!

Run time: 01:22 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGnE83A1Z4U   Posted on YouTube: May 18, 2011 By YouTube Member: TheAgendaProject Views on YouTube: 45446   Posted on DU: May 20, 2011 By DU Member: TheEuclideanOne Views on DU: 9114

 
With pretty boy Paul Ryan's draconian and savage cuts to Medicare in his budget proposal, we have to ask ourselves: Is America still beautiful without Medicare?

This add is a bit controversial because it shows Paul Ryan throwing a little old lady over a cliff.

they didn't spend too much money on it as it could be way more effective with a voiceover.

IMHO, it would have made it more effective too. I still love the ad, regardless.

American flag to look at their tv sets & pay attention. They're the ones who need to see it.

It also sets a very peaceful tone for most of it, kinda fishes you in, even though you know in the back of your mind that..... something... is coming.

:hi:

Isn't that exactly what Ryan proposes that we do with the elderly? Toss 'em overboard?

No Fair!
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great but could be too easily ignored w/out some voiceover.

Otherwise about time!!!!

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:hi:

the Democrats don't start playing hardball, they may as well start diving over that cliff themselves, because the Republicans don't play games. They are vicious. And don't care about people that have no money--at all!

I think screwing old people out of the medicare which covers medical treatments and medications they need to stay alive to cover budget imbalances made by tax cuts for the wealthy and stupid wars is ghastly.

Thank you for your concern.

I'm tired of the Democrats being wimps. Hit the Republican where it hurt and let the American people decide if they want grandmother going over the cliff with Ryan radical medicare plan. Doughboy...excuse me...Newt said as much. I love this ad! BooYow!!!!!! :nuke:

Faux News and Lumpballs told him how to think, A very sad weak man, Buh bye.

AND depends on INFERENCES and analogies to make its UNclear point.

Sure to us on Democratic Underground it makes perfect sense, and we KNOW it's Paul Ryan.

Well I didn't actually. I wasn't sure they were satirizing him specifically, because they never show any face.

Again it's all inference.

Inferential messages that require someone to KNOW the topic ALWAYS LOSE against soundbites repeated a million times a day.

DU people sometimes have a hard time believing that people REALLY DO NOT PAY attention to politics until near election time.

In the run up, they tune out messages that require even the slightest bit of focus and thought to understand.

That unfortunately is NOT effective when it comes to soundbites. They work like a subliminal message. This tactic was key to 2010.

If Democrats don't learn to use the 'soundbite' like the republicans do, messages like this are really just a waste of money.

Unless you are in the know a little, you have no idea what the commercial is about.

One thing Republicans are really good at is appealing to the low-intellect voter, but then they really have to, since they are getting stupid people to vote against themselves, they really need to spell it out, to focus on the wrong things.

then give it a thumbs up by clicking on the like button. It's currently being freeped.

The same folks who shouted "death panels!" will call this over the top, while people who accused the death panel shouters of scare mongering will nod and smile at the "truth" of the spot. Whatever happened to reasoned debate? I'm waiting for the political ad that literally states "Call your representative. If he doesn't vote the way we think he should YOU WILL DIE SCREAMING!"

The Republicans move the discussion to the right further and further. Obama goes right along with them, and the most unreasonable thing of all is never discussed -- that we are talking about ideas so unreasonably to the right in the first place.

The ad is very effective. It made me cry.

But I believe that most older people have quite a bit less than $28,000 per year to live on. Social Security pays on the average less than $1200 per year.

The generation 80 and above had pensions, sometimes generous ones. But the generation now entering their senior years and younger than 75-80 more often do not have pensions.

Seniors who saved are getting nearly 0% interest on their savings. The paper value of stocks and bonds may have gone up since the Fall of 2008, but they still don't pay dividends.

I think the figure of $28,000 calculates in a lot of very, very wealthy people. It has nothing to do with the lifestyles or actual incomes of the vast majority of American seniors.

I did some research on ERISA law in the 1990s and learned that the average working American at that time had less than $10,000 in savings by retirement age.

Even with a little savings, the price of food, housing, etc. will deplete that quickly. The Husband and I have been talking about what we will do when he can no longer work, as Social Security won't be enough. We have discussed maybe turning our little ranch into a B&B. At least, we have that option!

being grown up and not playing with toys?

Well, before you get to retirement age, you cannot imagine dealing with all the little physical problems that slow you down and make everything more difficult. So, retirement plans have to include some ideas about what to do if you, say, drop everything you pick up.

in the woods, not dumped over a cliff.

The message could not be more clear.

"I expected her to be left alone in the woods, not dumped over a cliff."

I'm sure that's what the "compromise" will eventually look like.

Kind of witless actually.
What would have been more effective was establishing she was going to be thrown off the cliff (Ryan letting the wheelchair go on a downslope) and then having grandma rescued by the ghosts of Roosevel, Truman, Kennedy, King, Johnson, etc.
When you allow grandma to go off the cliff you are in effect killing grandma for your own political gain. It's all about the subliminals. You don't save grandma by allowing her to be thrown off the cliff, best to prevent her from being thrown off the cliff (or caught in the act of falling by Democratic Angels.)

and the Republicans want to do!" and then say "Democrats won't let them!" You could shorten that ad to about 15 seconds.

the precipice, other people -including other elderly folks- step into the path to save her...

This ad is aimed at seniors, and it really reaches us. We know what it is about even if younger people are not paying attention on this issue.

if so then nothing changes for you, unless your outraged at the fact of what it does to people younger than 55.. which i understand

people 55 and under. Besides, I am very concerned about the many people 55 and under who have lost their jobs and, in many cases, their homes. I know how it feels, but I don't just care about how it feels for me. I'm a Democrat. That's why I'm a Democrat. I care about somebody besides myself.

But I know it wont affect anyone 55 and older it will still be the same for everyone 55 and older.

I am scared to believe what people say about social security and the rest of the entitlements.

just looking at how many baby boomers we had who are all gonna retire.. when all the programs started, there were so many of the baby boomers working and paying taxes to pay for the retirees but its not hard for me to see how that trend is going backwards with all the baby boomers retiring..

I want to help everyone but what happens if we keep increasing Medicare Medicaid and Social Security at the rates we have been increasing them.. it looks like it is kinda getting out of control..

I hope someone on here can help me figure that out lol i guess i am missing something

For one thing, all those baby boomers you're worried will strain the safety net - well, they've been paying into those program all their working lives.

That money they paid in is now not nearly enough money.. even if they saved all the extra money they should have had then to prepare for when they retire.

The money wasnt saved as it is more of a pay as you go..

Have you thought about that?

Lots and lots of seniors would simply die -- from hunger and disease.

The only alternative to funding Social Security and Medicare is for the children of specific seniors to house and clothe and feed and pay the medical expenses of their own parents and grandparents or for the government to pay for the welfare and health care of the vast majority of seniors through some other funding mechanism.

We have a very elderly friend who has been living in a nursing home for some years. She never married and had no children.

She had a house. It was sold at the top of the market, and she was moved into the nursing home. It takes thousands of dollars per month to keep her there. She is a sweet woman who worked very hard and supported herself all her life.

And the baby boomers will be in the same situation in not all that many years.

Do you want them to just die in misery?

but I do think that people need to save more instead of constantly spending money.

I understand and know that there are people who dont make enough money to save completely for retirement but there are plenty of people who made plenty of money for retirement, didnt save it and then when they get older just use the government to pay their bills etc.

What happens when the cost of Medicare and Social Security go up alot more because they are paying out to more people as the Baby Boomers retire?

I WANT to help people

But its simple to see on http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/ that if we cut EVERYTHING other than paying for Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and the Interest on our debt along with bringing back the Bush tax cuts.

This means cutting ALL of our Military, Education, Transportation, and "other" spending to be able to start paying down our debt.

We need to increase revenues.

We should impose taxes on imports, and we should raise the taxes on the very rich.

We need investment in the US. The best way to get it is to make it more costly to import stuff, especially consumer goods and services from overseas combined with a tax increase on the rich and on the corporations that includes incentives for them to hire people in the US especially in manufacturing.

If we did those sensible things, we would not need to cut back except on some of the expenditures for military bases around the world. We have over 700 military bases outside the US. That is ridiculous.

Here is the source on which I find the information on our bases. I don't like it but I cannot access the US sites on our military bases and outposts.

http://www.kelebekler.com/occ/bas_gb.htm

We have far too many in Germany, for example: (far, far too many)

Germany
Ag Pub & Tng Aids Ctr, Frankfurt Main, US Army
Alvin York Vil Fam Hsg, Bad Nauheim, US Army
Amberg Fam Hsg, Amberg, US Army
Amelia Earhart Hotel, Wiesbaden, US Army
American Arms Hotel, Wiesbaden, US Army
Anderson Barracks, Dexheim, US Army
Ansbach, Ansbach, US Army
Argonner Kaserne, Hanau, US Army
Armstrong Barracks, Büdingen, US Army
Armstrong Village Fam Hsg, Büdingen, US Army
Artillery Kaserne, Garmisch, US Army
Aschaffenburg Fam Hsg, Aschaffenburg, US Army
Aschaffenburg Tng Areas, Aschaffenburg, US Army
Askren Manor Fam Hsg, Schweinfurt, US Army
Aukamm Hsg Area, Wiesbaden, US Army
Babenhausen Family Hsg, Babenhausen, US Army
Babenhausen Kaserne, Babenhausen, US Army
Bad Aibling Kaserne, Bad Aibling, US Army
Bad Kreuznach, Bad Kreuznach, US Army
Bad Kreuznach Fam Hsg, Bad Kreuznach, US Army
Bad Kreuznach Hospital, Bad Kreuznach, US Army
Bamberg, Bamberg, US Army
Bamberg Airfield, Bamberg, US Army
Bamberg Stor & Range Area, Bamberg, US Army
Bann Comm Station, Bann, US Air Force
Bann Communication Station No 2, Landstuhl, US Air Force
Barton Barracks, Ansbach, US Army
Baumholder, Baumholder, US Army
Baumholder Airfield, Baumholder, US Army
Baumholder Fam Hsg, Baumholder, US Army
Baumholder Hospital, Baumholder, US Army
Baumholder Qm Area, Baumholder, US Army
Benjamin Franklin Vil Fam Hsg, Mannheim, US Army
Bensheim Maint & Supply Fac, Bensheim, US Army
Binsfeld Family Hsg Annex, Binsfeld, US Air Force
Birkenfeld Hsg Facilities, Baumholder, US Army
Bitburg Family Hsg Annex, Bitburg, US Air Force
Bitburg Storage Annex No 2, Bitburg, US Air Force
Bleidorn Fam Hsg, Ansbach, US Army
Boeblingen Fam Hsg, Stuttgart, US Army
Boeblingen Range, Stuttgart, US Army
Boeblingen Tng Area, Stuttgart, US Army
Breitenau Skeet Range, Garmisch, US Army
Breitenwald Tng Area, Landstuhl, US Army
Bremerhaven, Mannheim, US Army
Buechel Air Base, Büchel, US Air Force
Buedingen Ammo Area, Beudingen, US Army
Buedingen Army Heliport, Beudingen, US Army
Butzbach Tng Area & Range, Butzbach, US Army
Cambrai Fritsch Kaserne, Darmstadt, US Army
Camp Oppenheim Tng Area, Guntersblum, US Army
Campbell Barracks, Heidelberg, US Army
Campo Pond Tng Area, Hanau, US Army
Cardwell Village Fam Hsg, Hanau, US Army
Chiemsee Recreation Area, Bernau, US Army
Coleman Barracks, Mannheim, US Army
Coleman Village Fam Hsg, Gelnhausen, US Army
Community Fac Kaiserlautern E, Kaiserslautern, US Army
Conn Barracks, Schweinfurt, US Army
Crestview Hsg Area, Wiesbaden, US Army
Daenner Kaserne, Kaiserslautern, US Army
Daley Village Fam Hsg, Bad Kissingen, US Army
Darmstadt, Darmstadt, US Army
Darmstadt Training Center, Darmstadt, US Army
Dautphe Boy Scout Camp, Dautphe, US Army
Dexheim Fam Hsg, Dexheim, US Army
Dexheim Missile Fac, Dexheim, US Army
East Camp Grafenwoehr, Hof, US Army
Echterdingen Airfield, Stuttgart, US Army
Edingen Radio Receiver Fac, Heidelberg, US Army
Egelsbach Transmitter Fac, Langen, US Army
Einsiedlerhof Maintenance Anx, Einsiedlerhof, US Air Force
Einsiedlerhof Storage Annex, Einsiedlerhof, US Air Force
Einsiedlerkoepfe Training Anx, Kaiserslautern, US Air Force
Ernst Ludwig Kaserne, Darmstadt, US Army
Faulenberg Kaserne, US Army
Finthen Airfield, Mainz, US Army
Fintherlandstr Fam Hsg, Mainz, US Army
Fliegerhorst Airfield Kaserne, Hanau, US Army
Flynn Fam Hsg & Tng Areas, Bamberg, US Army
Frankfurt AFN Sta, Frankfurt Main, US Army
Frankfurt Hospital, Frankfurt, US Air Force
Freihoelser Tng Area, Amberg, US Army
Friedrichsfeld Qm Service Ctr, Mannheim, US Army
Friedrichsfeld Stor Area, Mannheim, US Army
Funari Barracks, Mannheim, US Army
Garmisch Fam Hsg, Garmisch, US Army
Garmisch Golf Course, Garmisch, US Army
Garmisch Shopping Center, Garmisch, US Army
Gateway Gardens Family Hsg Annex, Frankfurt, US Air Force
Geilenkirchen Air Base Geilenkirchen, US Air Force
Gelnhausen, Gelnhausen, US Army
General Abrams Hotel & Disp, Garmisch, US Army
General Patton Hotel, Garmisch, US Army
General Von Steuben Hotel, Garmisch, US Army
George C Marshall Vil Fam Hsg, Giessen, US Army
George C. Marshall Kaserne, Bad Kreuznach, US Army
George Gershwin Fam Hsg, Wetzlar, US Army
Germersheim Army Depot, Germersheim, US Army
Giebelstadt Giebelstadt, US Army
Giebelstadt Army Airfield Würzburg, US Army
Giebelstadt DYA Camp, Würzburg, US Army
Giebelstadt TAC Def Fac, Würzburg, US Army
Giessen, Giessen, US Army
Giessen Community Facilities, Giessen, US Army
Giessen General Depot, Giessen, US Army
Grafenwoehr, US Army
Grafenwoehr Tng Area, Grafenwöhr, US Army
Griesheim Airfield, Darmstadt, US Army
Grossauheim Kaserne, Grossauheim, US Army
Gruenstadt AAFES Fac Ma, US Army
Gruenstadt Comm Sta Ma, US Army
Gut Husum Ammunition Storage Annex, Jever, US Air Force
Hainerberg Hsg and Shop Ctr, Wiesbaden, US Army
Hammonds Barracks, Heidelberg, US Army
Hanau, Hanau, US Army
Harvey Barracks, US Army
Hausberg Ski Area, Garmisch, US Army
Heidelberg, Heidelberg, US Army
Heidelberg Airfield, Heidelberg, US Army
Heidelberg Community Sup Ctr, Heidelberg, US Army
Heidelberg Golf Course, Heidelberg, US Army
Heidelberg Hospital, Heidelberg, US Army
Herforst Family Hsg Anx, Herforst, US Air Force
Hill 365 Radio Relay Fac, Kaiserslautern, US Army
Hochspeyer Ammo Stor Anx, Hochspeyer, US Air Force
Hoechst, US Army
Hohenfels, Hohenfels, US Army
Hohenfels Tng Area, Hohenfels, US Army
Hommertshausen Girl Scout Camp, Hommertshausen, US Army
Hoppstaedten Waterworks, Baumholder, US Army
Husterhoeh Communication Site, Pirmasens, US Air Force
Husterhoeh Kaserne, Pirmasens, US Army
Hutier Kaserne, Hanau, US Army
Idar Oberstein Fam Hsg, Baumholder, US Army
Illesheim, Illesheim, US Army
Jefferson Village Fam Hsg, Darmstadt, US Army
Jever Air Base, Jever, US Air Force
John F Dulles Village Fam Hsg, Giessen, US Army
Johnson Barracks, Nürnberg, US Army
Kaiserslautern, Kaiserslautern, US Army
Kaiserslautern Army Depot, Kaiserslautern, US Army
Kaiserslautern Equip Spt Ctr, Kaiserslautern, US Army
Kaiserslautern Fam Hsg Anx No 3, Kaiserslautern, US Air Force
Kapaun Administration Anx, Kaiserslautern, US Air Force
Kastel Hsg Area, Wiesbaden, US Army
Katterbach Kaserne, Ansbach, US Army
Kefurt & Craig Village Fam Hsg, Stuttgart, US Army
Kelley Barracks-Ger-GE44E, Darmstadt, US Army
Kelley Barracks-Ger-GE44F, Stuttgart, US Army
Kilbourne Kaserne, Heidelberg, US Army
Kitzingen, US Army
Kitzingen Family Hsg, Kitzingen, US Army
Kitzingen Tng Areas, Kitzingen, US Army
Kleber Kaserne, Kaiserslautern, US Army
Kornwestheim Golf Course, Stuttgart, US Army
Lampertheim Tng Area, Viernheim, US Army
Landstuhl Family Hsg Annex O3, Landstuhl, US Air Force
Landstuhl Heliport, Landstuhl, US Army
Landstuhl Hospital, Landstuhl, US Army
Landstuhl Maintenance Site, Ramstein, US Air Force
Langen Terrace Fam Hsg Area, Langen, US Army
Langerkopf Rad Rel Site, Leimen, US Air Force
Larson Barracks, Kitzingen, US Army
Ledward Barracks, Schweinfurt, US Army
Leighton Barracks, US Army
Lincoln Village Fam Hsg, Darmstadt, US Army
Mainz, Mainz, US Army
Mainz-Kastel Station, Wiesbaden, US Army
Mannheim, Mannheim, US Army
Mannheim Class III Point, Mannheim, US Army
Mark Twain Village Fam Hsg, Heidelberg, US Army
McArthur Place Fam Hsg, Friedberg, US Army
McCully Barracks, Mainz, US Army
Messel Small Arms Range, Darmstadt, US Army
Miesau, Miesau, US Army
Miesau Ammo Depot, Miesau, US Army
Moehringen Fam Hsg, Stuttgart, US Army
Nathan Hale Qm Area, Darmstadt, US Army
Neubruecke, Neubrücke, US Army
Neubruecke Hospital, Baumholder, US Army
New Argonner Fam Hsg, Hanau, US Army
Oberdachstetten Tng Area, Ansbach, US Army
Oberweis Annex, Oberweis, US Air Force
Oftersheim Small Arms Range, Heidelberg, US Army
Panzer Kaserne-Ger-GE642, Kaiserslautern, US Army
Panzer Kaserne-Ger-GE643, Stuttgart, US Army
Patch Barracks, Stuttgart, US Army
Patrick Henry Village Fam Hsg, Heidelberg, US Army
Patton Barracks, Heidelberg, US Army
Pendleton Barracks, Giessen, US Army
Pfeffelbach Waterworks, Baumholder, US Army
Pioneer Kaserne, Hanau, US Army
Pioneer Village Fam Hsg, Hanau, US Army
Pond Barracks, Amberg, US Army
Pruem Air Station, Prüm, US Air Force
Pulaski Barracks, Kaiserslautern, US Army
Quirnheim Missile Sta Ma, US Army
Ramstein Air Base, Landstuhl, US Air Force
Ramstein Storage Annex, US Air Force
Ray Barracks, Friedberg, US Army
Regensburg Fam Hsg, Regensburg, US Army
Rhein Main AB, Frankfurt, US Army
Rhein Main Air Base, Frankfurt, US Air Force
Rheinau Coal Pt D-1, Mannheim, US Army
Rheinblick Rec Annex, Wiesbaden, US Army
Rhine Ordnance Barracks, Kaiserslautern, US Army
Robinson Barracks, Stuttgart, US Army
Robinson-Grenadier Fam Hsg, Stuttgart, US Army
Roman Way Village Fam Hsg, Butzbach, US Army
Rose Barracks, Bad Kreuznach, US Army
Rottershausen Ammo Stor Area, Schweinfurt, US Army
Sambach AFN Fac, Sambach, US Army
Schweinfurt, Schweinfurt, US Army
Schweinfurt Tng Areas, Schweinfurt, US Army
Schwetzingen Training Area, Heidelberg, US Army
Sembach Admin Annex (Wing HQ), Wartenberg, US Air Force
Sheridan Barracks, Garmisch, US Army
Shipton Kaserne, Ansbach, US Army
Siegenburg Air Range, Mühlausen, US Air Force
Smith Barracks, Baumholder, US Army
South Camp Vilseck, Vilseck, US Army
Spangdahlem Air Base, Spangdahlem, US Air Force
Speicher Family Hsg Anx, Speicher, US Air Force
Spinelli Barracks, Mannheim, US Army
St Barbara Village Fam Hsg, Darmstadt, US Army
Stem Kaserne, Heidelberg, US Army
Steuben & Weicht Vil Fam Hsg, Stuttgart, US Army
Storck Barracks Bad, Windsheim, US Army
Strassburg Kaserne, Baumholder, US Army
Stuttgart Dependent School, Stuttgart, US Army
Sullivan Barracks, Mannheim, US Army
Sulzheim Tng Area, Schweinfurt, US Army
Taylor Barracks, Mannheim, US Army
Tiergarten Tng Area, Hanau, US Army
Tompkins Barracks, Heidelberg, US Army
Turley Barracks, Mannheim, US Army
Vilseck, Vilseck, US Army
Vogelweh Family Hsg Annex, Kaiserslautern, US Air Force
Wackernhm-Schwabenwaeldchen Ta, Mainz, US Army
Warner Barracks, Bamberg, US Army
Warner Barracks Fam Hsg, Bamberg, US Army
Weisskirchen AFN Trans Fac, Weisskirchen, US Army
Wetzel Fam Hsg, Baumholder, US Army
Wetzel Kaserne, Baumholder, US Army
Wiesbaden Army Airfield, Wiesbaden, US Army
Wiesbaden Small Arms Range, Wiesbaden, US Army
Wolfgang Kaserne, Hanau, US Army
Wuerzburg, Würzburg, US Army
Wuerzburg Hospital, Würzburg, US Army
Wuerzburg Tng Areas, Würzburg, US Army
Yorkhof Kaserne, Hanau, US Army
73 Installations, no further details

Even if we have closed a few of these bases since this website published its list, we have far too many bases in Germany.

It would show visually the difference between GOP and DEM ideology. I love the ghosts of those who have implemented these programs (all Democrats) saving her!!! Or those ghosts could stand with Reid and Pelosi as they save her.

Right now they really do just show Grandma gettin' dumped with the democrats no where to be seen. It's a little too close to the truth, I think.

the people in the US don't know who the vice president is. You're going have Grandma rescued by some ancient dead Presidents in spiritual form? I can just see Bob in Topeka turning to his wife, saying "I wonder what that was about?"

Not as much shock and completely lacking in symbolic realism. The ending gives the person watching the ad nothing to do and nowhere to go. Plus at best it is historical positivism and suggests that some great man like one those presidents will rise up and save them. It is far better that the person watching the ad decides to actually do something about this.

People will die if Medicare is cut.

The voice over would be nice, if you are in another room than TV. It would bring you back to view it again.
The dems should fight just as hard for voter surpression, woman rights and worker rights issues. They are on the right side of the issues, with the public. They have to place the adds where the viewers are sports, mindless comedy programs; waste of money on Fox their minds are made up for them. They have to show people, what the republicans are doing to the right to vote, womans rights and worker rights, just as effectively. Define them before they define you falsely, and have to spend money correcting their lies.

It is way to easy for the Republicans to counter by saying their plan won't affect current seniors, and then they can say, "See how the Democrats lie!"

A much better plan for adds is to have 54 year-olds discussing how much money they will have to save now to make up for their STOLEN Medicare PREMIUMS they have payed, for their whole working lives. Factor in how fast medical costs are going up. And, THAT MEDICARE WAS STARTED BECAUSE NO INSURANCE COMPANY WILL COVER SENIORS!

A 54 year-old Harry and Louise could be sitting at the kitchen table trying to figure out how much they have to save now to pay for Harry's bypass operation (25 years in the future) OUT OF POCKET!

from the rethugs on this ad??? These assholes are completely INSANE. They fail to realize that killing medicare will also kill them. No wonder this country is in so much trouble...."THESE CLOWNS ARE NUTS". "HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE...IS ALL THEY KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is kind of "in-your-face" ad that will rock the repukes into screaming their heads off.

Too direct and too the point. Video says 'Agenda Project' and has no mention of DNC.

It's about time the Democrats made things clear to people.

everyone 55 and older currently is fine and nothing will be different..

I dont want to mess with Medicare at all like the rest of you but with looking at the numbers things just dont seem to work out and would love to hear from any of you to explain how the numbers would work out.. With the numbers I am referring to are government spending compared to our income.

looking at http://www.usgovernmentspending.com

I just dont see how raising taxes along could get us out of this situation.. again if someone could explain that to me I am all ears! lol

If we wanted to we would literally have to get rid of the ENTIRE defense department ALONG with large tax increases if we dont want to touch the big 3 entitlements at all..

It seems like we are going to have to cut some things a little and people are gonna have to save some money for retirement to get out of this crazy mess of debt..

please help me crunch the numbers cuz i might be wrong lol

...just wondering

Military Spending.. Just Saying..

I just want to have an honest conversation..

I should have realized that "defense department" includes "military spending."

So...when you say, "...we would literally have to get rid of the ENTIRE defense department ALONG with large tax increases if we dont want to touch the big 3 entitlements at all" -- you're saying we would have to:
a) get rid of the entire defense department
and
b) get rid of large tax increases
or
touch (meaning gut, I presume) the "big 3 entitlements."

Hmmm, doesn't quite add up to me.

I, like many Democrats, prefer drastically reducing the war budget and moderately increasing taxes on the wealthiest Americans to ensure the safety of Social Security, Medicare, education, a single-payer health care system, environmental protections, and many other programs that Republicans want to do away with.

If we wanted to we would literally have to get rid of the ENTIRE defense department ALONG with large tax increases if we dont want to touch the big 3 entitlements at all..

I am not saying get rid of large tax increases i meant to say that we would have to get rid of the entire defense department and add large tax increases

if you go to http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/piechart_2010_US_fed and compare to http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/piechart_2010_US_total

you can see that Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and the Interest on our debt would make up our entire budget and the govt would still lose money (with the current tax structure)

I know we could cut the Military alot (especially if we can get out of all these POINTLESS wars, no matter who started them cuz were not talking about war and i dont want to get into a war argument in this thread on medicare) but even if we were able to cut the Military in half we would still need HUGE tax increases more than Republicans would allow as im sure they would chain themselves to the podium to filibuster forever lol.

To Keep all of Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security along with education,FDA EPA and everything else we need to change Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security a little to make it so they dont collapse our country under debt..

to that depicted for countless people. :patriot:

Hard hitting ads saturating EVERY market. I hope this gets airplay for a long time.

Disturbing...but, awesome!

it's the exact type of message that we need to put out there. Hopefully a few more ads like this will start popping up.

Great, great ad. Very effective.