Barber: Christians Stopped Slavery While The Left Is Like Hitler

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I know these people know they are LYING...If not, that just goes to show what religion does to people's minds! They can actively lie &/or ignore huge areas of truth & still feel as if nothing is wrong with their world view! SAD! Yet very scary for the rest of us if they are given full control of America at some point!

the political support for the invasion & occupation of a sovereign nation known as Iraq that resulted in the deaths of what had to have been at least 50K children & babies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
"While raised by a skeptic father and Catholic mother, after childhood, he ceased to participate in the Sacraments completely. He sometimes made public statements which seemed to affirm religion (which suited his political purposes) and prior to 1940 had promoted a "positive Christianity", purged of Judaism and instilled with Nazi philosophy, but in private was hostile to Christianity and had a plan to destroy it after the war. "

way and found "Christianity" useful in his atrocities.

You never hear much mention of his influence on Hitler who was 13 when he died.
However, lots of people have misused religion for their atrocities.
If you're hating Christianity for Hitler or anyone's sake, perhaps you should reconsider the situation.
Demagogues use things for their own reasons.

, then let individual "Christians" establish for themselves just how Christian they really are.

BTW, I was strongly against the Iraq war. As a Christian, I thought Dubya's false witness was appalling, a stain on our nation's honor.
I've lost friends and had family members turn against me because of this issue. Don't blame all Christians for the Iraq debacle, some of us have been against it since the beginning.
You are a text book case of the kind of person I worry about. You already have your prejudice ready at hand to justify yourself.
All you need is a label, then assign purported guilt from that.

Religion is based on belief, not facts. They are encouraged to believe in spite of evidence to the contrary. Which is why they are so easily dismissive of proof.

Sure, Christians stopped slavery. But not the Christians who make up this guy's audience. It was Northern Christians. The kind that let women into the clergy and marry gays. The kind that he would decry as evil. The Christians in the South used the Bible to justify slavery.

Depends on which Christians. I had some abolitionist-Christian ancestors. They certainly did a lot to stop slavery.

But then, I lived in the South where the Southerners whose ancestors were slaveowners even fought a war to defend their right to chase escaped slaves into the North.

Basically, some Christians helped stop slavery, but others did not. No points for Christianity either way on that one.

As for Hitler and liberals, many NAZIs believed themselves to also be Christians. Were they? Depends on how you define Christian. Other Christians did everything and sacrificed even their lives to resist the NAZIs. So, you can't generalize on this.

There is not one accurate, non-distorted statement in that whole clip.

1) Hitler was a lefty: This guy obviously hasn't read Mein Kampf- or at least, much like the Bible, only the parts that support his point. Hitler hated the communists as much as the Jews, in fact, the communists were hauled away first. Last I checked the communists were the far end of the left wing. But then again idiots like this guy- or at least idiots like the people who parrot him- believe Hitler was a communist. Problem is they don't know the difference. Hitler was into eugenics, but he was pro-life. At least by the modern definition: Pro-fetus. He even gave out medals to the women who squeezed out the most sons.

2) The Christians freed the slaves: OK. But Christians also fought and died to preserve the institution of slavery. The Ku Klux Klan uses the Bible to justify slavery and their attitudes toward non-white people, but he conveniently omitted those details.

3) This "Republicans freed the slaves and Democrats started the KKK" bullshit: Yeah- and the Pittsburgh Pirates were in the world series in 1903. What's your point? This particular assertion especially plays on the stupidity of the Republican rank and file. Guess what? In the 1860s it was the Republicans who were the progressive, humanitarian (by 1860s standards) party, and the Democrats were the conservatives. Imagine that- after 150 years things seem to have changed. And the Ku Klux Klan wasn't started by the Democrats. It was started by ex-Confederates who couldn't accept that their side lost. (Sound like anybody else we know?) They probably did vote for Democrats -if they voted at all- but Republican pig-headed stupidity allows that fact to make them, by extension, an arm of the Democratic party. At most Klan members infiltrated the party in southern states, but guess what? They infiltrated the Republicans too! The Klan is a southern thing, not a party thing- even if most Klan members favor the Republicans these days...

Southern Democrats who were big with the KKK were forced out of the party by Black Civil Rights leaders in the South at the time. I think there may have been quite a few, but their leaders were Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, and someone named Byrnes(?)

Way way back the Roman slaves were eventually freed by the Stoic(somewhat comparable to Deists at best) Emperors. This is after a long Christian ascendancy among the slaves and the Church mostly trying to win acceptance within the Imperial system. Whatever influence the Church had seems to me to have been very passive and non transformational.

In America(and in Latin America where slavery still existed)regional Southern Churches, including Catholics, used the same ugly theology to dehumanize blacks and justify slavery contrary to every common sense mandate and teaching of the Gospels. A few zealous Northern Churches, liberal on this issue at least, matched fundamentalist intransigency with fundamentalist intransigency on the other side, eventually breaking the law and entering the fray of armed revolt with the nutcase John Brown. Liberal and sane pols floundered around with incrementalism perhaps slowed by the fires stoked by the religious war and in dread fear of dissolution and war(and especially economic loss). America had a too quick, too brief chance to emulate the long long Roman evolution with its own dispassionate Deists despite the economic stars and evolution not being in alignment. In all these hatreds and posings, Money is God and you have your choice which side is most disgusting in its practical obeisance to that single force above all other ideology.

Christianity as a generic can likely claim more responsibility for sparking the war itself than the emancipation of slaves. The current GOP and Dems have switched regional places(except maybe for NY) and the Christian divide(which apparently no longer needs slavery to fuel the arguments).

Incrementalism would have fogged and delayed emancipation indefinitely. The war did it ugly and quick with great loss of life and a great lasting evil of highly resistant injustice upon all thereafter. No one has bragging rights, same as today's struggle for human survival and liberty. Lots of just blame to go around.

In sum, minus the forces of world economy that drives a pyramid with cheap labor at the bottom, only the activists of justice hasten evolutionary progress/justice- and mainstream anything is an inertial force at best. Even each divided Church is mainly too large, too inertial to "save" the world, and is more in danger of being reactionary than progressive as it blends into the world of Mammon.