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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 05:54 PM
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Congressman Nadler: 'President became absolute monarch'
 
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The US Constitution says that Congress is supposed to declare their wars and the War Powers Act effectuates that, and yet US presidents regularly violate this regulation. Congressman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) says that the US is turning into a monarchy over the decision making involved with when they get into wars. He says there was no excuse in the Libyan operation, no imminent threat to the United States security and that there was plenty of time to negotiate the situation. Yet, he says, US President Barack Obama initiated military participation without asking Congress — it is one-man decision making and something way beyond his powers.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 05:57 PM
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1. In what language does "monarch" mean "triangulating incrementalist?" n/t
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 05:58 PM
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2. Which explains how we got Medicare for All, an SSI increase and all that other "socialist" stuff.
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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 06:04 PM
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3. maybe hes not too interested in those socialist fluff
he is a war president and that's the area where is would like to show his kingly powers. Obama has been very disappointing as the so called peace candidate
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 06:18 PM
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5. What makes you think he
wanted that?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 06:05 PM
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4. Now Watch Nadler get Attacked
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-11 12:12 AM
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6. while i agree with the requirement that congress initiate military action, this is hardly new
grenada?
yugoslavia?
panama?

the list goes on and on.


moreover, the war powers act actually give hands congressional power over to the president, by giving the president free reign in getting entangled militarily for 90 days before getting a vote from congress. in fact, this is arguably an unconstitutional transfer of power, so it's odd in a way that congress cites it. in some ways, their position would be better off without it. they could then claim that the president couldn't use the military AT ALL without prior congressional approval.

of course, as a political matter, you can always find ONE american in trouble in your target country or some random american commercial interest in the area in order to justify a war.

moreover, in this case the president, it seems, has a good argument if the forces are exclusively under nato control, as congress already authorized contributing american forces to nato control in general.
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