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thomhartmann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 11:55 AM
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Thom Hartmann: The Supreme Court has become a cancer on our Democracy
 
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In last night's Daily Take - I said that I agree with Newt Gingrich when he said that the Supreme Court has to work under rules set by Congress; that Congress can limit the Court's powers; and that the court has taken onto itself the power to both shut down legislation and to create doctrine - like the ideas that corporations are persons and money is the same thing as speech. I pointed out that the Founders never intended - as you can read in Federalist 78 and Federalist 80 - for the Supreme Court to have jurisdiction over Congress and the President.

The Supreme Court was beyond their Constitutional power when they handed George W. Bush the victory in 2000. They were beyond their Constitutional power every single time they struck down a law passed by Congress and signed by the President and - most importantly - every single time they created out of whole cloth new legal doctrines like "Separate but Equal" in Plessey versus Ferguson or "Corporations are people" with Citizen's United. If you want to see the whole thing, complete with the quotes from Hamilton and Jefferson, it's the July 12th, 2011 Daily Take on our YouTube page, and you can easily find it via thomhartmann.com.

So - in response to yesterday's daily take, a number of people have posted messages over at thomhartmann.com and on youtube and other places asking a few questions about this. The first is, if the Supreme Court can't decide what is and what isn't Constitutional, then what is its purpose? What's it really supposed to be doing? The answer to that is laid out in the Constitution in plain black-and-white. It's the first court where the nation goes for cases involving disputes about treaties, ambassadors, "controversies between two or more states, between a state and citizen of another state, between citizens of different states, and foreign states. Read Article Three, section Two of the Constitution - it's all there.

Second, the Supreme Court is the final appeals court when everything else has been exhausted. If two people have a lawsuit and it goes up through the courts it has to stop somewhere, and that somewhere is the Supreme Court. They and they alone can make the final decision about who wins and who loses in civil and criminal cases. But they have to do it under the laws passed by Congress and signed by the President. And they have to do it the way Congress says they have to do it. As the Constitution says - "The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots. It has more wisely made all the departments co-equal and co-sovereign within themselves....When the legislative or executive functionaries act unconstitutionally, they are responsible to the people in their elective capacity."

Their elective capacity? That's a fancy presidential-founder way of saying that the people can toss out on their butts any member of congress or any president who behaves in a way that's unconstitutional. The ultimate remedy is with the people - it's the ballot box. If we don't like the laws being passed, then we elect new legislators and a new president. It's pretty simple.

But without the Supreme Court, some say, we never would have had Brown versus Board in 1954 - ending apartheid in America - or Roe versus Wade, ending restrictions on abortion in 1973. True, but Brown versus Board was mostly the Supreme Court reversing itself from its own 1886 Plessy versus Ferguson decision which established legal apartheid in America. And if the Supreme Court hadn't decided in Roe Versus Wade - remember, the Birth Control pill had just been invented and brought to market thirteen years earlier and the women's movement in 1973 was in full bloom - then it would have been just a matter of a few years before Congress took care of it.

The fact of the matter is that the Supreme Court has never found eternal truths in the Constitution - they just reflect current popular view, and they usually do that with about a 20-year lag-time. So let's end the charade that we have nine unelected kings and queens in America who serve for life and can strike down laws the way it works in some Constitutional Monarchies. We don't have a monarchy here in the United States. The Supreme Court has become a cancer on our Democracy, slowly but steadily eating out all of the rest of it.

Tell your members of Congress to wake up and read the Constitution

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 12:19 PM
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1. The Supreme Court was beyond their Constitutional power when they handed George W. Bush the victory
Yes they were.....
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 12:27 PM
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2. Wish I could rec more than once. You go Thom. nm
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JAnthony Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 04:20 PM
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4. I'll recommend one more time, just to give you a second rec, well..
deserved.

We all only get one vote here...sorry about that, but true, but I can add to your rec, at least one more!

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 04:27 PM
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5. Thanks, Thom deserves it. nm
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 01:24 PM
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3. Big K&R!
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