Cenk Uygur "I Gotta Tell People The Truth! Which Is Democrats & Republicans Are Here To SCREW YOU!"

Run time: 06:42 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRcsiU7K3Qo   Posted on YouTube: July 25, 2011 By YouTube Member: MOXNEWSd0tCOM Views on YouTube: 301   Posted on DU: July 25, 2011 By DU Member: democracy1st Views on DU: 10307

 
Thank you Cenk!


http://www.theyoungturks.com/

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but a lot of them are.

That even the clips they played were of different sources. The first, he was actually on MSNBC. The second clip, I'd say the more aggressive one, was on his show, The Young Turks.

That is two hours I don't watch MSNBC/Comcast now--Keith at Current is at 7, and I don't watch the 5 anyway. I watch too many of them, and they are kind of repetitive too. One by one, MSNBC seems to be trying to position itself out of the market, like they were before they went left of FOX (not liberal, by any means).

FOR TRUTH..:dem:

can rest his case on this interview alone. MSM is not interested in challenging power with truth.

It's Kurtz's job to embrace everything that Cenk said. He's supposed to be commenting on the media. Seems like he gave MSNBC a pass on this one.

He's actually a critic of people who challenge the main stream media narrative and he's made a lot of money doing that.

going on his trashing MSNBC tour to anyone who'll listen, who's next FOX?

Trashing MSNBC is fodder for the right - that was his goal and it worked.

Hope he feels better now, but in the end, MSNBC will go on, they are getting pretty decent numbers without Olbermann and Cenk.

MSNBC... DU... well, you figure it out.

I love Frank!

Frank's comments and threads as I saw them were always risky given the fact that he is... frank. He recounts on another website an exchange with someone who basically accused him of being a racist and then the thread was locked before he could defend himself so he DID break the rules by opening another thread for the purpose of defending himself from the allegation which, by the way, last I saw, still stood. According to him, he never "alerts" unless it involves invasions of privacy or physical intimidation.

That thread was locked without explanation so he "cleaned it up" and tried again. That thread was locked.

I don't know how to put this myself without being in danger of getting censored but I'll try.

You know how Cenk wasn't welcome at MSNBC? One MIGHT make the case that there are parallels here.

I feel like I should take a screen print of your comment (with which I totally agree), just in case...

While we're at it, did Perry Logan get banned at DU also?

That British guy that does the Fucking News, hope he hasn't also been DU-banned! His stuff has an up tempo beat!

-90% Jimmy

He was banned during the primaries. Well deserved.

Many thanks, Cenk!

“The basis of our government being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to
keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without
newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the
latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading
them.”
Thomas Jefferson 1787

http://nie.miamiherald.com/_pdf/Speaking_of_a_Free_Press.pdf



Self censorship (choosing access over substance) is still censorship and not a free press.

"...be capable of reading them." Given that almost half of our adult population is functionally illiterate, therein lies the rub.

Like Jefferson, if I have to choose MSNBC without Cenk, or Cenk without MSNBC, I will not hesitate to choose the latter.

In fact, I'm hopeful that Ms. Maddow will realign--perhaps with CURRENT--so that I don't have to support MSNBC in any way, shape, or form.

I know what I am seeing with my own eyes. If I believed the "official" story, I would be little different than the Fox News watching Republican.

Cenk. You are paying the price for being the smartest man in the room.

Keep your integrity. Don't sell out.

You make sense. Most of the sold-out, insider TV News is just boring.

Kurtz sold his long ago, but like most other "journalists" keeps polishing a pretend integrity like a pot metal belt buckle with a thin veneer of brass whose shine and substance has long been polished away.

but Im not buying it at all. Ed is always all over President Obama and very left on the issues. I watch MSNBC all the time and I dont believe they are telling them what to say.

Maybe they were trying to give him advice on his demeanor and I do believe they wanted to replace him with Al. It is a TV show and from what I understand Al was doing great in ratings.

I wish Cenk the best of luck. I wish he would have stayed on.

there shows were ranked #1 ?

stories of how they would make him have on two rw guests if there was

one liberal guest --

and then 4 rw guests if there was 1 liberal guest cause Phil also was a liberal!!

And then if he had on Michael Moore they had to have like 10 rw guests!!

Hilarious -- sadly so!!



But then when the march to war came -- Phil had to go -- yet he was #1 --


And ALL of that because this is a right wing nation -- :rofl: :rofl:

And thank you -- it was good listening to Phil Donahue again --

I admire him greatly for the program he did on PBS re national health care --

think he woke up a lot of people -- that was the first time around with it

in the Clinton campaign -- can't recall the name of the guy who ran for Senate

who kept pushing the idea of health care for all -- last name began with a "W"?

They got him out of Congress quickly! Maybe he ended up in the Clinton WH?


Corporatists seem to have a way of closing their hearts and minds to the world --

to nature and humanity!!

Is Ed near #1 yet?

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And just like Cenk's ratings were rising, though they are crediting Sharpton now, it's clear that ratings have nothing to do with whether they put someone on the TV, or they'd have canned Rush during is 5 year tryout.

You get fired by telling the truth, for violating "filters" in place. And it isn't about speaking ill of Obama either, at least I don't think. It's part of it, but it is about the control of congress, about just clearly stating they are all bought and paid for by corporations, and how they aren't working for ordinary people, about how they don't really give much of a crap about real workers in this country. Cenk tells the truth, Cenk gets canned.

Personally I respect him immensely for turning down the money, and keeping his integrity, and continuing to speak the truth.

Myth 1 - Cenk was replaced because Sharpton got better ratings for two weeks while Cenk was on vacation.

Cenk was told he wouldn't be getting the show BEFORE Sharpton filled in for him. This was at the end of June. That in and of itself makes Sharpton's ratings totally irrelevant to this story. In http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x7o0sNrulg&feature=channel_video_title|his announcement> on TYT Cenk correctly points out that once he (to an extent) started doing the show his way the ratings went up AND that in the 3 months that make up Q2 of 2011 he beat CNN and improved on Schultz'z ratings from last year (he praises Schultz in that clip btw).

Myth 2 - Cenk claims the Obama White House came down on MSNBC.

Cenk never got more specific than what MSNBC president Phil Griffin told him. People in Washington may or may not include someone at the White House, and Cenk made a point to NOT say it was the White House.

Myth 3 - Cenk was demoted, then fired when he didn't accept the demotion.

Cenk was offered a weekend show/contributor role for double the money. Can you think of any other jobs in which you get less responsibility and exposure and a gigantic raise? Also, the NY Times reported that he was well liked at MSNBC but more importantly here's a direct quote from an http://www.huffingtonpost.com/democracy-now/cenk-uygur-leaves-msnbc_b_906708.html|MSNBC spokesman>:

...we were working on a new contract, to develop him into an even bigger television talent.

Myth 4 - MSNBC wouldn't let go of Cenk for his harsh criticism of politicians and then go on to hire a firebreathing bull like Sharpton.

In a recent 60 Minutes interview http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/25/cenk-uygur-al-sharpton-is_n_908385.html|Sharpton vowed not to criticize president Obama>. Leave it to HuffPo to make the headline more inflammatory but there it is.

Myth 5 - Cenk is unemployed/he hosts some obscure web show.

Glossing over the fact that Cenk has been interviewing Senators (Ted Kennedy, Bernie Sanders, Harry Reid, etc.), Congressman (long list), former presidents (Jimmy Carter), Fed chairmen (Alan Greenspan), talk show hosts (Rachel Maddow, Lou Dobbs, Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartmann, etc.), filmmakers (Michael Moore, Robert Greenwald), journalists/reporters (Matt Taibbi and people from the NY Times, WaPo, HuffPo and everything in between) there's this:

http://news.tubefilter.tv/2011/07/15/the-young-turks-breaks-500-million-views-1-million-in-revenue/|The Young Turks Breaks 500 Million Views, $1 Million in Revenue>

I've missed you Tom!

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Having to pummel some people over the head with facts?

Looks like a kid having sex for the first time--he's a much better guest.

Once again, why not give him the 4, or 6 O'Clock show, one of Chris Tweety Bird Matthews two shows? That would have been the logical choice. I might add, I've been suggesting MSNBC get a black host for a good while now. I like Sharpton as a guest, but seriously, Van Jones, or any number of other black liberals out there would be a better choice than the Reverend.

Like I said, Cenk, to this true liberal, was the most enjoyable one to watch. I commented to a friend that he would be the next one to get fired, as what he said was really liberal, and he was stepping all over media filters, things they generally all know to avoid like the commie filter, or suggesting higher wages for workers, these days suggesting "free-trade" has lost jobs, not gained them, or that "tax cuts for the rich don't work." They drove that canard into the minds of Americans like a nine-inch spike in the brain. They don't want some uppity guy like Cenk on there trying to pull it out, by simply stating that this stuff hasn't worked. Another, regulation is bad, bad...Cenk understood the need for regulation, and that deregulation is directly responsible for all the disasters that are happening in the country.

Cenk was fired for telling truths that they don't allow on Comcast's corporate media. I'm wondering if Rachel is next, since she's on vacation now too, and might be the next to get the axe. I see a Current TV lineup in the future, the new representation of the left on the media, and MSNBC is destined to fade back into obscurity, a CNN wanna-be.

This means have on more Republicans so you can bash them. Cenk was moving beyond this and getting more critical of Dems, the President. (Supposedly the folks on "our side.)

Give Al Sharpton one of Chris Matthews two slots? Why does he get two anyway, 4 and 6 Central? That would be the logical choice, obviously.

:pals: I was hoping someone would post this!!!
I saw it yesterday--tried to find it on YouTube to no avail.

Thank you so much for posting this video,democracy1st:fistbump: :yourock:

Coming from a CNN anchor, I guess that means they really are the establishment. Because defending the establishment is what CNN does best.

Cenk is right.

Alan Simpson, Dave Cote, Jeb Bush, Robert Gates, Gen Stanley McChrystal, and Bush would have approved of them all.

he has Arne Duncan on board to continue the nationwide dismantling of our system of public education.

Race to the Top...what a stinking pile of El Toro Poo Poo.

Whenever Cenk was getting his momentum going in making his central point that he quit over substance and not style, ie: the media not challenging politicians willing to raid Social Security to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy etc. etc., that's when Kurtz became most eager to interrupt.

Kurtz wanted to make it about style and not substance because if Cenk's decision to quit MSNBC had been based on substance that could/would be an indictment against the vast majority of the corporate media, including CNN and Kurtz.

Thanks for the thread, democracy1st.

about anything "establishment" is funny.

I hope Cenk surfaces somewhere on the tube soon.

Instead of exploring the substance of what Cenk was saying -- that journalists don't challenge authority, and that politicians get a free pass from the media to spout their lies without challenge -- Curtsy turns the conversation back on Cenk to try and put him on the defensive. By the way, I can't believe Lawrence, who's been cheerleading for the Big O a lot lately, had on Marsha Blackburn (a typical GOP Karl Rove trainee) tonight.

If you ever hear a millionaire host begin to sputter, hem and haw during someone's comment, you know the guest is straying into an area that the media, television in particular, but radio too, wants filtered.

You can't suggest that free-trade agreements as structured actually killed the jobs, and created unemployment.

You can't say "tax cuts on the rich do not create jobs, in fact you could make a case they cut jobs."

You can't say "both parties are bought and paid for, now mostly by corporations," as they are huge corporations, GE, MSNBC, Comcast, the owner of them all.

You can't suggest Communism, or more Socialism. They don't care for it if you say "Why not create jobs, it isn't going to matter to them, let's tax the rich like we did before in the 1950s, and whip up a bunch of jobs." You aren't supposed to say "Hey, since all the jobs have moved away, and corporations don't want to repatriate money because they'll have to (egad) pay taxes, to be patriotic contributing members of America, rather than leeches who only seem to want to sell their products, made elsewhere, charged on credit cards Americans can no longer afford."

There are, of course more. You can't suggest that canning the fairness filter in the corporate media has ruined us as a nation, and created an hostile environment, a polarized situation, since it allows folks to choose the right-representation, against the left's representation (more center-right really) in our media.

Took them a long time to drive that dogma into the brains of their viewers. They don't want some guy coming along with the claw-hammer of truth, and yanking it out!

k/r

Way to go Cenk! I'm sure he's taking a lot of heat, but he's doing the right thing here. People NEED to hear this.

Kurtz is such a slimebag!

It's called INTEGRITY, folks. It's about the money for MSNBC. For Cenk it's about telling the TRUTH.

Rec.

They're worried that they won't have a platform if they don't toe the corporate media line.

Well, time for a new media.

Jim Hightower was on many more media outlets, both landlocked, independent and satellite, 10 years ago.

Go get 'em Cenk!

He makes me want to vomit.

mean except..don't be so critical of the president..even when Obama said to hold him accountable. If we are to be seen as a party different from the lockstoppers shouldn't we be accountable to the voters when our guy is in office? Cenk said over and over that he supported this president..his beef has always been with the right, but dammit when our guy puts our safety net on the debt negotiating table somebody better call him out.

Have we really reaped that much savings from the payroll tax holiday compared to the defunding of SS? Now Obama want's to do it again. The average savings is about 1000/year. That's about 80/month. Wow thanks. 160 for 100K. The Bush tax cuts have been shown to fail us dramtically and produced the worst economic growth in 50 years. This must stop.

http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/002028.htm">10 epic failures of the Bush tax cuts

Thank you Cenk for your courage and dedication to transparency

"It's a big club and you ain't in it"

It is clear the host had a defined agenda, as to what the content of this "interview" was going to be; "Cenk Uygur got fired because of STYLE not substance." What is the point of having the man on to talk about it, if the host is going to push this agenda so hard? And, yes try to cut him off whenever he gets to an actual point,. This is a clear case of the Corporate Media washing the truth with a big ol' bucket of muddy bull sht water.

Obama is not a progressive at all, never was. Cenk is right,. people in the MSM (and indeed some of the "moderators" here at DU) just don't like to hear this truth (banning people and deleting posts will not change the truth). This is just more proof that we are living in a once open society that is being overrun and closed down, by a small group fascist right-wing corporate oligarchs,. the same ones that keep saying that "America is a right of center country",. as they continue to push the center over to the right by marginalizing any views that are actually left of center, or indeed progressive at all.

It is sad that most, if not all, of the left/progressive views we find in the MSM are so weak, or actually just slightly less right-wing than the bat sht far-right keep pushing to,. . and this is due to events just like the one in this video, and people falling for this type of mud-washing of the truth.

Your's is ANOTHER post I should screen print, just in case it mysteriously disappears...

We can bill the interview show, "They Fired Me Because I'm Too Liberal"

the daytime line-up, not so much.

But, that's okay, because it's evening programing that brings in the viewers.

A new network needs a boat-load of money, like Oprah, who's new network isn't doing so well.

MSNBC has held free health clinics with donations - that's damn liberal.

His attempts to defend the M$M were pathetic

Listen to the language promoted by CNN: "...a few parting shots," and "Host's Parting Shot at MSNBC." Consider that Kurtz uses the style du jour of talking over and interrupting Cenk. How rude!

I no longer watch MSNBC, for obvious reasons. I don't even DVR Rachel anymore--I just watch specific clips of Maddow posted on DU or utube.

Finally, I sometimes find Cenk abrasive. When I DO, I have to ask myself why? Is it the message or his style? Overall, I prefer Cenk, regardless of his 'style.'