STFU David Cameron!

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As in :sarcasm:

Also forgot this: As things R: Police everywhere, justice nowhere.


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But our war criminals will not be indicted.

...if it's done by the banksters and financiers who are systematically ripping off the wealth of nations.

It's happening right now, and the law & order types have no brief against it. They do not understand that once theft is legalized as it has been over the last 30-40 years, then the great unwashed tend to take notice and to act accordingly.

One does not have to condone rioting and looting to take a look at root causes. As I see it, one root cause is the wholesale theft and looting that has occurred by the financial elites worldwide including in the UK.

I might ask you: Fascism is fine? Because that is what is taking hold. The multinationals are becoming more powerful than even the world's most powerful governments, who nowadays seem to work for them.

BTW, Cameron belonged to an elite fraternity whose idea of amusement was to go out to a local restaurant and, without warning, trash the place. But that was okay, because you see, they were all wealthy scions and could pay damages. And the proprietors knew better than to press charges. THIS is the man who is acting all outraged at out-of-control youth -- youth who cannot find employment, and whose safety net and those of their families is being cut as we speak.

Again: I am not justifying violent actions nor theft. But pretending there are no causes, pretending that this all just happens in a vacuum, is just plain stupid.

If the riots led to people "stealing" necessities, i would have no problem. But stealing for fun is wrong.

You keep saying "stealing is wrong" so why are you only outraged when it is some kids stealing a friggin' Telly,.



So where is the outrage for the corporate baksters and their politician buddies who are stealing millions on top of billions?!?! Some shops get burned and looted and the "justice" system can work weekends and over-time,. smashing down doors all over the city,. however when the cash is flowing in a great torrent from over taxed wage-workers to the already disgustingly wealthy for having done nothing but lie, cheat, and steal,. not a single banker, or corporate executive is even questioned,. none jailed at all.

It should be clear to everyone now that the system is entirely ONE SIDED!

Private profit for the rich,. with socialized losses for the rest of us to pay back,. with compounded interest, to the banksters who got bailed out in the first place! This setup must change now.

I am, however, very troubled by the idea of a 12-year-old who does not understand what will happen to him if he joins in with the looters.

It is wrong, very wrong, that bankers (not all bankers) steal from the poor and from each other.

But it is also wrong for a 12-year-old to steal.

The reality as you point out is that the 12-year-old is ruining his life while the bankers are improving theirs.

That's the reality. It's unjust, but it is the reality.

So, my focus is on teaching the 12-year-old that he probably will be punished for what he is doing.

Then the question becomes "What is the alternative for the 12-year-old?"

And that is the biggest problem. What is the alternative for the kids who are stealing.

As a parent, you soon learn that the best thing to do when your child misbehaves is to give the child something that is fun but not destructive to do. If you are trying to read and the child is trying to grab your book and tear up the pages, read a book with the child or give it some newspaper to tear up. Turn the child's impulses to play rather than destruction

Wish we could apply this same method of discipline to the bankers. How could we do that?

There are consequences for your actions.

since you're pretending this was just an incident of "stealing for fun" and not the ultimate consequence of the complex crowd dynamics that emerge when social structures start to break down due to pressure from above.

We are all human, thus we are all subject to laws and justice. I don't care if you have stockholm syndrome, it's time to get over it, wake up and get justice.

In California, children are placed in Juvenile Hall. It is tough enough there, but the point with children, especially the children who rioted and stole in that situation, is to correct their behavior.

A child does not necessarily connect his punishment with what he did wrong. He needs counseling to understand that actions have consequences.

Some children figure that out very early. But other children need help in figuring out why a leads to B to C, etc.

Also, a 12-year-old can easily be persuaded by an older child or a parent to steal. It's happened a lot.

:shrug:

I have become a big fan in the last couple years. Just learning but I figure I'd learn from someone who is honest.

the process are really victims who deserve sympathy. Cry me a fucking river.

the bankers in leg irons. Then we'll talk.

positive and less destructive to do.

That is why this is a social problem.

Clearly, in the UK today, people are very frustrated and feel they have nothing better to do that destroy. When so many people feel that way all at once, it is not a question of just a moral fault in the individual (although that is part of it), but also a flaw in the social organization.

STF University. ;-)

...a voyage to Australia as a convict. Community Service is a breeze by comparison.

I'd still like to see justice for the banksters. Is there some ex-British colony in Africa they can be shipped to?

P69

In fact, I not tend to preface any mention of the Tory party with the words "bastard scum". The riots were a fairly obvious result of the policiesw his government has put into practice. You cannot treat people like crap, create an underclass with no future and no prospects and then expect them to behave like fully functional members of society.

Saying "there should be consequences for bad behaviour" is fine and there should be but the fixation on crime and punishment usually leads to ignoring the wider context of the riots.